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I feel very sad

On Saturday night I was walking here in Miami and saw people making a huge line.

I called my best friend in Venezuela, I am Venezuelan and I told him: look... this people making lines for hours to get a cellphone... they do not have nothing better to do?

In Venezuela people are making lines to buy milk and toilet paper, I understand that but I would never wait more than 15 minutes in my life to buy something, probably a movie ticket and if you go to Disney or a waterpark there is no option.

My friend told me: that is why I left the USA, even I am a citizen I came back to Venezuela where there is a sense of community and not filling up your inner void with material things.

Wow...

Still, today is Monday and people making lines for something they do not need for me is a mental problem.

I got my iPhone 5 like 6 month after, still in perfect shape. I saw the 6 and the screen is bigger and it helps a lot, but my life does not depends of it and no ones life does. Again.. pretty empty life's to make aline for a phone.
 
9 million being sent back to China for resale.

Judging from what I saw in the lineups at Apple stores this is pretty much what is happening. It's an epidemic.

Just so everyone remembers: Apple, unlike Samsung, reports actual "sales", not shipments. Big difference.
 
Because they are not sold. As long as you can go back to the website and cancel your order, it's not sold. Of course Apple could say for example "10 million preorders" if they have 10 million preorders, but not "10 million sold".

The people who waited in line a walked away from a brick and mortar store this weekend are also free to return their phones (I bet at least a few already have) Yes, it is not that same as cancelling an online order that has not shipped but unless you have figures that reduce the overall sales below 10 million (because X number of online sales were cancelled) then I don't see why Apple cannot say "10 million" and also call those online orders "sales"

They cannot say "10 million preorders" because this is regarding the sales over the weekend beginning September 19th, not preorders on September 12th
 
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DoCoMo in Japan have stock of all models (6 and 6 plus, all sizes and a colors) in various stores. Seems they ordered too many phones (having just started selling iPhones with the 5s, maybe didn't realize their 24 month contract puts people on a 2 year refresh cycle). Amazing.
 
Except in this press release Cook specifically used the phrase "sell through". Sell in would include sales to resellers that might not be sold to consumers yet. Sell through means sales to end consumers.

In this case, yes. I was more answering the notion that Apple sales always mean sales to consumers. Sell-through does mean to consumers, though I don't know how he would know that.
 
Nobody wants an iPhone 6c. If Apple learned anything from the 5C it's that people overwhelmingly prefer the nicer build quality and feel of the phones made with nicer materials. If someone wants a plastic phone there is always Samsung or Motorola. I will, however agree with you on the base storage. It should be 32GB, not 16.

When the iPhone 5S sells at around the same percentage of iPhone sales this year as the 5C did last year, does that mean that nobody likes the materials in the 5S?

:D
 
Not always. Apple considers a sale to AT&T a sale just like everyone else does. Stop propagating this myth that Apple sales are always "in the hands of users".

The only difference in apple calculations is that Apple has their own stores. Store sales are defined as "to the customers", whereas sales to the cell companies are not. So if apple sells 100 iphones to your local tmobile store, that is 100 sales. But 100 sales in an apple store is 100 phones in customer hands. Being that pretty much everyone is sold out, aside from new inventory since launch day, it's pretty safe to assume that those 10 million are in customers hands. And from my understanding, they only count delivered pre-orders, not backlogged pre-orders as those can be cancelled. I can be wrong on that point, but that would be some fuzzy math if they counted something as a sale but didn't deliver the product yet. Pretty sure there's an accounting firm that would have an issue with that as well as the stock holders.

In any case, I'm in the boat of waiting until I can see it in the store and then wait two more months for my jump on t-mobile to take effect. Not sure if I want a 5.5" phone. Had the Galaxy Note 3 and it was just too big for me. I was even hoping for a 4" iPhone 6.... but I'm sure I'm in the very small minority for that one to ever happen.
 
On Saturday night I was walking here in Miami and saw people making a huge line.

I called my best friend in Venezuela, I am Venezuelan and I told him: look... this people making lines for hours to get a cellphone... they do not have nothing better to do?

In Venezuela people are making lines to buy milk and toilet paper, I understand that but I would never wait more than 15 minutes in my life to buy something, probably a movie ticket and if you go to Disney or a waterpark there is no option.

My friend told me: that is why I left the USA, even I am a citizen I came back to Venezuela where there is a sense of community and not filling up your inner void with material things.

Wow...

Still, today is Monday and people making lines for something they do not need for me is a mental problem.

I got my iPhone 5 like 6 month after, still in perfect shape. I saw the 6 and the screen is bigger and it helps a lot, but my life does not depends of it and no ones life does. Again.. pretty empty life's to make aline for a phone.


I saw long lines for men kicking a ball in Venezuela
 
Still waiting for my 6 Plus. 3 more weeks....:confused:

Same here. Order online as soon as they go on sale, you get screwed and wait weeks. Just randomly walk into a store, you can grab one day one. It's total BS. No store should have any until preorders are filled.
 
They can do that once they make me happy. After all, I order BEFORE they did.

Apple is not in business to make "Razeus" happy. They have to balance all their customers. They want to be an international company, not a purely American one.

If you do not like how Apple runs their preorders you are free to not support them. Yes, you may have ordered before someone in another country who is waiting in line in front of a store, but the stock is separate. There is not one huge pool of phones.
 
good numbers. They can even go higher if they had the availability. Same story every year...not enough supply to meet the demand.
 
Not bad. The pre-orders more than offset not having sales in China.

Not having sales in trying to didn't affect the final sales by even a single phone. I thought that was pretty self evident from the fact that they sold out. How many more do they have sold if they were selling to another billion people? Zero.
 
So much for all those people claiming they "manufactured shortages" in order to increase demand.
 
Impossibly incredible sales numbers. And they totally deserve this success, these are the best smartphones I have EVER used.

Of course they are! I'm surprised you bought one since you said they'd never make one bigger than 4". How many of each did you get?
 
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