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That's a well known fact and I don't disagree. You say more people want 3.5" phones than 5.5" phones. I'm just questioning why NO major manufacturer makes a 3.5" phone (including Apple, and apparently they're abandoning the 4" market) and most, if not all, are making 5"+ phones.

It appears as though MOST people want larger phones. All you need to do is look around. Look at everyone with a non-iPhone that was made in the last 2 years.

I can say I do like smaller phones better. Not smaller screens but the phone. On the current iPhone 5 they could make the screen larger by reducing the bezel on all sides and take off the home button.
 
Personally, from the images I've seen I HATE the lines and the protruding lens. I LOVE the rest of the design. Cant do anything about the lens, but I guess I'll have to get the Black (or dark grey) iPhone to minimize the lines' appearance.

I'm still going to get the phone though... as I'm sure millions of people will also.
 
I'm not jazzed up about that. I can see that catching lint and other stuff that ends up in your pocket.
Indeed. And sliding the phone on a table isn't going to work anymore. Wait... forget sliding, you can't even lay the phone flat on a table with that thing :confused: .
 
Don't let me stop anyone from complaining about the lens but has anyone else considered there is a larger purpose behind this?

A few months ago there was a patent for lens attachments (https://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/13/apple-bayonet-lens-mount/)
I've seen the protruding lens mentioned in multiple leaks now but I don't recall it ever being tied back to this patent.

I realize most of Apple's patents never see the light of day but I can't help thinking about this every time the protruding lens is mentioned.

If the ring allows you to mount additional camera lenses, I'm very excited. There is only so much you can do to the thinness of a device till the internals become a constraint.

This might make me reconsider my option to skip iPhone 6 (since I have a 5S and don't really require an upgrade), but Apple will have to throw in a bait or two more to really push me to reconsider my options.
 
Important to realise: if this lens is real, it means that Apple is willing to compromise on something very important. Presumably they can't get a good enough camera that fits the slim design, so they decided to screw the design and have it stick out.

If they're willing to make such a trade-off, what else can we expect? This goes against the whole "If Apple can't do it right, they won't do it at all" idea, and that makes me sad.

And I'm not sure, but I'm pretty certain that in some past keynote they compared the iPhone to Android phones with big bumps that hold the camera.
 
66.97 mm is 67 mm, not 66 (as stated by MR here) for the 4.7" model.

It's closer to the Nexus 5 width versus the Moto X which is disappointing. I had one handed operation issues with the Nexus 5 and none with my Moto X. Perhaps total weight will help in that regard. Shame it's not listed.

the iphone6 is 3-4 mm thinner than the motox, so it should be easier to hold
 
I guess there white bands are here to stay

sigh

I mean it still has to be a good phone, I feel like I can forgive.

Then again what if the protruding camera and the lines and stuff are all just because there is some secret outer-case we don't know about that will be assembled in the US which was how they could hide the final design while still allowing leaks?

Ok, maybe a stretch.
 
You'd like Apple to continue to make a 4" phone. I get it. Fact is, when the larger phones are introduced there will still be ample inventory of 4" iPhones and they will be updated for some time to come. Now if you're they type who has to have the latest and greatest, that's a first world problem with little sympathy from me. Heck, we're posting in a tech forum about an upcoming phone. All of this is a first world problem.:D

The crux of my issue with your quote is the insistence that larger phones are for the less tech savvy people. Forgive me, but that premise is stupid. Not you, but the premise. What empirical data suggests that a person with a smaller phone is somehow more technically inclined? Forget empirical, I'd settle for anecdotal in this case. There is no correlation. It's like you're looking for an excuse as to why people like larger phones. There is no excuse or single reason. People like what they like for myriad reasons. MR is one of the more technically savvy forums and there are a crap ton of people here with larger phones and a boatload more wanting them. Are they less savvy than those who want the status quo? Sometimes I think we can resort to high drama to get our point across when it's not really necessary.

It's totally okay to express preference without denigrating the alternative.:)

I am so glad there is actually someone who understands rather than just slur out the phrase: "Shareholders don't like small" or "You don't have to buy the phone". No. You're absolutely right it's a nitpick I have, and I'd like the 4" iPhone to be kept on par with the other sizes. I guess we both realize that's not going to happen and eventually even that size will be phased out.

Getting back on the insistence of my earlier post, I do not necessarily mean larger screens are for the none-tech savvy, rather, they are the group of people that wants a larger screen at the moment, and are the ones who influence apple the most to go for a larger/bigger screen. If you add the tech savvy people on top of that, the majority is obvious. However, ALL I really wanna say --( because my first post was a rant really ) -- is that Bigger != Better. I am not against choice, nor am I against other people's screensize preference. I just want to enjoy iOS with a 4" screen as others would with a 4.7 or 5.5" From the looks of it.. we can all assume that that's not going to happen and that is why I am bothered with larger iPhones.:apple:

Speaking as a tech savvy guy, who prefers smaller screens this is highly frustrating sometimes.
 
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I can say I do like smaller phones better. Not smaller screens but the phone. On the current iPhone 5 they could make the screen larger by reducing the bezel on all sides and take off the home button.

I have no doubt Apple sees that as a huge problem in the long run. That home button has become so iconic I doubt Apple would ever willingly give it up. Unfortunatley it takes up a lot of space and Apple insists on having the same bezel on top and bottom. That makes the phone much taller than it needs to be. They've apparently done what they can to minimize it (by lessening the gap between the bottom of the screen and top of the home button and the bottom of the home button and bottom of the phone) but there's only so much they can do. The 4.7" is not huge but competitors are able to pack a significantly larger screen into the same size of phone.
 
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"When we were looking at how to improve the camera on the iPhone 6, we went for a design that was elegant and intuitive. We also knew that, with previous generations of iPhone, the camera is one of the apps the user goes to the least. So with this beautiful protruding lens, not only will our camera draw attention to this function from millions of iPhone users, but the 0.77 mm increase in size also means that the person taking the picture can get closer to their subject than ever before - once again, closer to the content.."
 
Thanks man! I also had some other mockups with current gen phones:

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Especially the comparison with the Moto X and LG G2 Mini with the same size screen.... hurts :)

Dem bezels tho! :D Seriously, the symmetrical requirement of the top and bottom bezels necessitate a taller phone. Sadly.:( Since components, not white space, sit beneath the bezels, I wonder what Apple could do differently?

1. Asymmetrical bezels? Ha! Apple fans would lose their sheet.:mad:

2. 1-1.5 mm shorter and 1-1.5 mm wider? Internal component arrangement would have to change slightly. May be viable.:confused:

3. Tell everyone to shut up... then take their money? Most likely outcome. ;)
 
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just as a reference: That means the 4.7 iPhone is pretty exactly the size of the HTC One M7 (but thinner)

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Something's off about this. the spec's do suggest that the phone will almost identical to the HTC One, but if you look at the pictures, the top and bottom bezel look significantly bigger on the iPhone 6 than the HTC one with the same size screen. This kind of gives me pause about this leak, as legit as it looks.
 
I knew Captain Obvious was a member here!

You would also be surprised at the amount of people who don't think the 5.5" will be happening. I was on the fence, but i now believe it will be announced.
 
for the first time in all the generations i did not buy a 5s. My 5, its battery, goes from 100$ to 79% to 53% to 27% to 19% to 11% to 1%. Then can last on that 1% for a while. Need. New. Phone.

I was in the same boat, so I bought a replacement battery (with tools) on Ebay for $5. Took 15 minutes to do the swap. Now, when I get a now phone and sell my old one, I can say, "RECENTLY REPLACED BATTERY!" in the description. Food for thought. :)
 
I just can't believe that with years of design simplicity they will incorporate a protruding camera just to have a thinner phone when they could keep the slate design and add more battery.
 
I have no doubt Apple sees that as a huge problem in the long run. That home button has become so iconic I doubt Apple would ever willingly give it up. Unfortunatley it takes up a lot of space and Apple insists on having the same bezel on top and bottom. That makes the phone much taller than it needs to be. They've apparently done what they can to minimize it (by lessening the gap between the bottom of the screen and top of the home button and the bottom of the home button and bottom of the phone) but there's only so much they can do. The 4.7" is not huge but competitors are able to pack a significantly larger screen into the same size of phone.

Going off those dimensions they haven't minimised it at all, it's same size as 5s
 
Ummm DUH . You should've known that from the oh idk, countless leaks this summer/Spring ?

There were several reports that said the lines weren't going to be on the final design and I was holding out hope for that.

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Ahahaah it's funny because so many people said it would be impossible, all fake, all coming from goophone and it's there to stay. Face it, this is the iPhone 6

Protruding camera, white lines... oh god...

The protruding camera isn't as big of a deal imo. I had a fifth gen iPod touch and the camera protruding wasn't at all noticeable for me.
 
I hate that protruding lens. WTF?!

That was the one thing I hate most about iPod Touch 5th gen, and now it's on iPhone too? Just to make it thinner? Oh please :rolleyes:
 
For those of you who hate the protruding lens... Would you be ok with it if the camera's specs absolutely blow your socks off? (serious question)
 
For those of you who hate the protruding lens... Would you be ok with it if the camera's specs absolutely blow your socks off? (serious question)

Wouldn't even have to "blow my socks off". If it has OIS, a bigger sensor and more MPs, I'll be all about it.
 
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