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Doh! If this is correct then sorry Apple it's not what I need, I need a device with good battery power and longevity. Please listen to what we need rather than giving us your thinner obsession. Will skip this time round even though I would like a new phone there really isn't much point unless it has a better battery.

#APPLFAIL?

I mean, 1900 mAh IS better than 1560 mAh. 2500 mAh is even better still. So both new iPhones will have better batteries than the 5S and any prior iPhone... It just won't be as large as competitors' offerings - but, we all know that Apple doesn't spec-war with other manufacturers. People were pissed about the RAM in the iPhone 5S... Until they used it.
 
We need to remember that for the vast majority of users, the current battery life is more than enough. Yes it might not be enough for you or some of your friends but you aren't likely the average user.
 
I have some questions, that I haven't seen answered yet, hopefully you can help

1) Is it mainly fat people who don't like thin phones?

3) I understand that physically handicapped people will ( possibly ) have a problem, but again, why not just buy a nice case from the many thousands available

yes fat and handicapped people are unable to use your precious iPhone lol smh
 
Very simple solution. Offer a +$100 version with a slightly thicker case and bigger battery. It would cost about $5-10 to implement and would substantially increase margins. The alter Apple properly worships.

Rocketman

Hmmm. Interesting. What would they call it though. For an extra $100 it needs a name to signify how much better it is like maybe iPhone Maximum. Or just call it the iPhone Max.
 
Don't worry guys... this isn't the whole story...

yes capacity maybe modestly improved... but the software tweaks they will implement in the ios 8 gold master will dramatically improve battery life.

That's what I'm hoping for, and the reason I think that iPhone generally has better battery life for a given capacity than an android phone. I particularly hope location services is improved for battery life since that clearly drains the battery most of all.
 
Is it really that modest though? The larger iPhone will see a 65% increase in the battery capacity. That'll make it definitely competitive against most phones.

No kidding. Why not just say “5.5” iPhone said to get 65% battery boost”.

That’s a solid increase in battery capacity, plus likely more efficient SOC, plus enhancements to iOS8, +plus+ other battery saving engineering like a change in the display/lighting tech.

Sounds great to me :cool:
 
also the A8 has little to do with battery life. Its the display, the radio, and the antenna design that have the largest effect. Apple has never been great with antenna, and the other 2 parts are outsourced
 
I have some questions, that I haven't seen answered yet, hopefully you can help

1) Why don't people who want a bigger heavier phone with more battery buy a battery case ( or multiple battery cases if they are really into that kind of thing ) ?

2) Is it mainly fat people who don't like thin phones? My friends and I all like thin phones, but we're not fat. Is it something to do with having fat fingers, like a row of 5 bloated piggies?

3) Are people joking when they say they won't be able to hold onto the iPhone6 if it is any thinner? I understand that physically handicapped people will ( possibly ) have a problem, but again, why not just buy a nice case from the many thousands available.

I look forward to your answers...

Think you need therapy as you seem to have an obsession with fat people. Who mentioned fat phones or little piggies? I have a friend who is a therapist, want her number? Oh hold on she only has a 4s which is on the thicker side..No good for you then?
 
Pretty much this. Never heard of a single person criticize the thickness of a iPhone. And I know toolbag dudes that wear skinny jeans.

hey hey hey... skinny jeans are actually cool if paired with a nice shirt...

who am i kidding? skinny jeans = No NO, NO
 
even 4S was already thin enough. When will this stop? When it become transparent or something? Battery life, man. Make it closer to iPads battery life.
 
Think about it this way: if the iPhone is twice as thin, then you'll have enough space in your pocket to carry two of them. Which allows you to have double the battery life. Good idea eh!
 
really? i charge mine at least twice a day, i got up at 10 am this morning, it is now 3:40 pm and i just had to plug it in to charge (at around 6%)

It's hard to take comparisons like these and reach meaningful conclusions. Two people may have very different definitions for "heavy use" and neither accounts for apps running in the background.

So far as I can tell, if you're not playing games or constantly using driving directions, your battery should last all day with plenty of juice to spare. If you're not doing those things and your battery doesn't last a day, you should bring it in to an Apple Store before your warranty runs out.

the iPhone 5 is thin enough imo

No way. It has to be thinner before I'll start using a case.
 
This right here! Bigger batteries take longer to charge it's annoying! I want the new iphone to be like my macbook air which takes only two hours to fully charge.

This is really more or less a fallacy. If you store a certain amount of charge in the battery it's in there. Just because it isn't full doesn't mean the electrons aren't still in there. It's like putting 5 gallons of gas in the tank, which might fill it or might not. It's still going to keep the motor running for 5 gallons worth of time.

Now I'm sure there are some electrochemistry things going on that mess with the times a little bit but I doubt they matter enough to make any real world difference.
 
My iphone 5 has rubbish battery life, and has always had rubbish battery life. Anything smaller than the iphone 5 is pretty stupid if it means they can't add better battery life.
 
It's just another imaginary problem for the Apple haters to whine about. I'm also a heavy user and my phone has about 20-30% left at the end of a day at work.

I don't know what you consider heavy usage, but I have to charge my phone at least twice a day. If you use Bluetooth and the Soundcloud app, you'll find the battery lasts maybe 5 hours.

Granted I'm pretty sure this whole article was just flame/click bait, since I'm sure the admins have been reading people consistently complaining about how the only thing they want is a battery that lasts longer :p

I'm personally only really care about the new iPhone having a larger screen, the rest I'm sure will work itself out.
 
Wow, the cheerleaders are out in force on this one. Do you guys get paid or do you do this for free?

Don't worry guys... this isn't the whole story… yes capacity maybe modestly improved... but the software tweaks they will implement in the ios 8 gold master will dramatically improve battery life.

Why not mix a bigger battery with those software tweaks to really up the battery life? Software tweaks are great and all but nothing says that optimized software couldn't do its thing with enhanced hardware.

Id take this with a grain of salt until we see the product. Let's not forget the new A8 will also be much less power hungry at 20nm vs the current 28nm A7.

So pad that less power hungry A8 with a bigger battery to yield "magical" battery life gains.

Well, i'm sure there will be plenty of accessory makers that will have a CASE/BATTERY combo available in no time. If the phone is really thin, it won't become too bulky with the battery addon...

Of course, if you build the combo battery life into the phone, we A) don't have to pay for an extra thing, B) don't have to hide as much of the beautiful new toy, C) don't have to waste space with double walls (walls of case against walls of phone), etc.

You WANT a fatter phone? Then get a battery case. Some people prefer the slim design. Every time I take my case off of my 5S I think... damn this thing is awesome and I hate how fat the case makes it. Thinner would mean that a case would make it the same thickness as it is now without one.

Nobody is arguing for thicker. Generally, the argument is leave the case about the thickness of the "awesome" iPhone 5s. Since the 6 is apparently taller & wider, fill that space with battery. Then the 6 can be "damn this thing is (just as) awesome" without having to "hate how fat a case (will) make it (too)".

Bigger batteries aren't the answer. Intelligent power management and more efficient components are.

Bigger batteries + intelligent power management and more efficient components yields a better overall product than just rolling with "thinner" and hoping to get enough out of intelligent power management and more efficient components. Nobody is arguing against making better software and more efficient components. However, those innovations could deliver even more benefit by being paired up with more battery.

Honestly the new Samsung commercial showing all the iPhone users tethered to the wall should sting Apple big time. This thin fetish needs to stop. I think it would be almost unanimous that Apple should just keep the thickness the same for once and put in a larger battery.

Correct. If one would take the time and go back through all these threads that talk about iPhone, it would be hard to find many griping about it's onerous thickness. Sure, there's lots of people talking about thinner but- I suspect- that's mostly because we expect Apple to go there. If there was such a poll and "we" were in the dark about whether Apple intended to go for "thin" or go for "bigger battery", I too suspect the latter would get an overwhelming vote- especially if we thought that Apple might actually act on that vote.

People here simply lack vision. Thinner is always better. Use a thicker device, and see how dumb it feels.

Nobody is arguing for thicker. Nobody is saying that want to take the iPhone 5s thickness and add to it. What they are saying is that the 5s is thin enough and that they would rather hold at about that "thin" and fill the added width & height with battery. Then, the 6 could be just as thin as the 5s- which seems to get no "too thick" complaints- while adding a LOT of on-board battery capacity.

Bit of info for everyone: The battery in the 5S is 12% larger than that in the original iPhone, yet you get 50% more usage out of it.

Sure, Apple is great at tweaking software and making chips more efficient. Just think what they could do with a high utility benefit of battery life if they paired that brilliance with a bigger battery too. Nobody is arguing for a bigger battery and NOT optimizing the software & components. It seems the argument is to do everything possible to maximize time between charges- tweaks, optimizing software AND bigger battery.

iPhone 5s = 5.92 watt-hours (1,560 mAh)
Mophie Juice Pack Plus = 10 watt-hours (2,100 mAh)

Galaxy S5 = 10.36 watt-hours (2,800 mAh)

Sure, but what kind of comparison is that? You're implying that your combination of a phone + an accessory (sold separately of course) beats another company's phone on its own. Why doesn't the other company's phone get a similarly capable accessory too? Then your comparison would be iPhone at about 16 watt-hours against Galaxy S5 at about 20+ hours. Then, there's also the issue of "thin" as your 5s+ Mophie is "thickened". And so on.

I do the same thing. Two 5s in battery cases. Why? Because naked 5s in what we would define as normal use can't get through a day without needing to be plugged in. They require a battery case for our needs. In those cases, much of that beautiful design and attention to detail is hidden. We would much rather Apple build the added battery into the iPhone than basically drive us to having to make 2 purchases to get the whole iPhone we need. It's not about wanting a thicker iPhone; we'd just rather maintain the thin that is 5s and fill the added width & height with battery + software tweaks + efficiency improvements. Best of all worlds (IMO).
 
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