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Can anyone really deny that the phones are actually bending? I've seen enough evidence of it now to believe it is a problem. And the key piece of info is that the phone has not even been released for a week. So if people are having problems already, it is very possible that it will be a much more widespread issue after weeks, months, years of use. People may not see any problem now, but with a little wear and tear over time it seems like it could definitely surmount into a real problem after it's been used for a while.
 
Can anyone really deny that the phones are actually bending? I've seen enough evidence of it now to believe it is a problem. And the key piece of info is that the phone has not even been released for a week. So if people are having problems already, it is very possible that it will be a much more widespread issue after weeks, months, years of use. People may not see any problem now, but with a little wear and tear over time it seems like it could definitely surmount into a real problem after it's been used for a while.

I guess you missed the CNN video. Thats ok. If you've seen enough "evidence"....
 
Should be a lesson to you why a billion dollar corporation needs to maintain high standards and great PR department.

Should be a lesson on how stupid humanity is.

Do you mean to tell me that my phone will bend if I try to bend it? Get out of town!
 
The only long-term effect this will have is old people everywhere will be wondering why in the hell Bengay has gotten so much media coverage all of the sudden.

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iPhone 6 Plus has become the laughing stock of the Internet and the world. Apple will soon bury this ugly stepchild.
 
Can anyone really deny that the phones are actually bending? I've seen enough evidence of it now to believe it is a problem.
What evidence have you seen? Did you see a phone bending in a pocket?

And the key piece of info is that the phone has not even been released for a week.
This makes no sense.

So if people are having problems already, it is very possible that it will be a much more widespread issue after weeks, months, years of use.
Do you know for a fact people are having problems, or did just read and watch the news, most of it linking back to this forum.
People may not see any problem now, but with a little wear and tear over time it seems like it could definitely surmount into a real problem after it's been used for a while.
Smart people do see the problem, which is there is no problem.

Gullible people see a problem, they are easily manipulated by here say anecdotal comments.

A pic of bent phone is no proof that it bent due to being in a pocket.

It's just a picture of a bent phone. The reality is you have no idea how it got bent.

Five post wonder, all of them negative.
 
I guess you missed the CNN video. Thats ok. If you've seen enough "evidence"....

Nope, I watched the CNN video right before making that post. I don't believe he is really putting any effort behind it, and that piece seems clearly biased from the start. I did however see the video of the guy bending the phone and I don't believe there were any special effects used other than his hands. Although people don't purposely bend their phones like that, the device clearly seems weakly made. And I do think it can be a problem after repeated days/weeks/months of keeping it in your pocket. A little bit of force adds up over time. Even if it is a tiny bit at a time of keeping it in your pocket, the aluminum will get weaker and will bend more easily over time. The bending video clearly shows the weakness is there for this to happen. The CNN video does not disprove that in any way to me.
 
Can anyone really deny that the phones are actually bending? I've seen enough evidence of it now to believe it is a problem. And the key piece of info is that the phone has not even been released for a week. So if people are having problems already, it is very possible that it will be a much more widespread issue after weeks, months, years of use. People may not see any problem now, but with a little wear and tear over time it seems like it could definitely surmount into a real problem after it's been used for a while.

The decision to make the phone one of the tallest on the market without compensating with width or thickness was a fatal flaw. Most devs I know have zero confidence that this model will be sustained and are growing reluctant to dedicate resource toward plus-specific versions. The ugly scaling will continue.
 
Nope, I watched the CNN video right before making that post. I don't believe he is really putting any effort behind it, and that piece seems clearly biased from the start.
One can same the same about your post.

I did however see the video of the guy bending the phone and I don't believe there were any special effects used other than his hands.
Is that the one where his fingers turn red? please post the link.

Although people don't purposely bend their phones like that, the device clearly seems weakly made.
How so? Because someone excerted force to bend it?

Snip... A little bit of force adds up over time.
Is this your engineering opinion?
 
Nope, I watched the CNN video right before making that post. I don't believe he is really putting any effort behind it, and that piece seems clearly biased from the start. I did however see the video of the guy bending the phone and I don't believe there were any special effects used other than his hands. Although people don't purposely bend their phones like that, the device clearly seems weakly made. And I do think it can be a problem after repeated days/weeks/months of keeping it in your pocket. A little bit of force adds up over time. Even if it is a tiny bit at a time of keeping it in your pocket, the aluminum will get weaker and will bend more easily over time. The bending video clearly shows the weakness is there for this to happen. The CNN video does not disprove that in any way to me.

In that video, looks like he put all forces on weakest point, around volume button, not centre of the phone. And why time on the phone was 2:26 when he started bending, and it was around two when he finished?
 
Well I have had all the iPhones available. And other various sized phones. None of them this thin and that's kind of my point. The current obsession with thinness is really going to keep causing this sort of thing IMO.

Exactly. it's just stupid. Nobody was just sitting there going, "man, i really want a gigantic phone, but I just wish it was thinner than the current iphone." In fact, even before these phones were released, people thought it was silly to have the camera stick out of the phone. It just doesn't make sense and totally takes a giant crap on an otherwise beautiful design. It's like someone built a Ferrari, but there is a little lump on the hood to fit an engine that is just a little too big for the body. Now we know that this phone's body is actually too weak to stay straight.

I'm seriously thinking of cancelling my order for the plus. At the very least, I will not buy from apple without getting an email stating that the phone bending under my pant pocket's pressure will not void my warranty.
 
I'm seriously thinking of cancelling my order for the plus. At the very least, I will not buy from apple without getting an email stating that the phone bending under my pant pocket's pressure will not void my warranty.

Please post that email once Apple sends it to you.
 
Ive is not an engineer. there is an engineering department. Ive is design.

but i still disagree with your conclusions -- you have no idea what they tested for and what tools they used to complete those tests.

and if you arent going to keep this phone in your pockets, what are you going to do w/ it? will you get another phone, that is also susceptible to misuse?

I can guarantee you that they didn't test this design in average American pants pockets going through their normal everyday all day routine.

Due to apples highly guarded routine, there is no way that hundreds or thousands of these phones were placed into people's pants pockets and sent out into the world to see how they survived going through a day like any other phone does in people's pants pockets.

I can tell you that every phone I've had from numerous manufacturers has survived being in my front pants pocket. Survived when I sat, when my kids jumped in my lap, when I climbed mountains and had my body hit the rocks, all the crazy daily stuff and normal stuff.

If all I have to do is sit to break my phone, there's a problem. But I can guarantee you that this design was not tested by apple in normal everyday life situations. It would be too scary for them. They're fear of someone seeing it would prevent them from testing it in the real world.

And I doubt that they did any simulation tests either.

I remember apple delivering MacBooks that were already bent. And guess what, they said it didn't prevent it from working by having a gap in the panels, so no exchanges.
 
The S4 was a very popular phone, why wasn't it's "bending" problems publicised?

Simply put: because nobody cares about Samsung phones.

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The video shows shattered glass (and that required substantial force), but the phone is still straight after pushing the glass back in.

You didn't watch the entire video, did you? Missed the part where he laid the phone flat and showed that it was warped, didn't you?
 
The only way to solve this is to bend every model of iPhone with a force gauge and see how easily the 6 plus bends compared to the 5,4 and 3gs. Someone needs to get filming!

Great idea. I nominate you. Let us know when you're done and have posted the videos.

Enjoy. Look forward to seeing your scientific results.

Anxiously awaiting.

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I smell sexism.

Hmmm. Curious what that smells like. Does it smell different depending on which gender?

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So of all the phones you have had in the past 9 years, how many were that big? How many were made that lightweight, out of that thin aluminium? Just curious?

Also check out the squaretrade test In case you are not sure who they are, they are a major 3rd party warranty company for electronic devices. Interesting info here.

Curious why it matters how many of his other phones were that light weight, that big, that thin, made out of aluminumn, etc...

I wouldn't care if his other phones were made of candy canes.

The point is his other phones survived daily use.

I don't remember any huge uproar demanding that iPhones needed to be made out of thin aluminumn, even lighter than the iPhone 5, and even thinner. Nope.... That was apples quest, not average buyers demands.

The first job of any product is to survive in its normal environment.
 
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If all I have to do is sit to break my phone, there's a problem. But I can guarantee you that this design was not tested by apple in normal everyday life situations. It would be too scary for them. They're fear of someone seeing it would prevent them from testing it in the real world.

Given the extra surface area & thinness of the 6+ compared to the 5s/etc, I am sure that the phone likely would break/bend if it was in your back pocket!

In the front pocket, the pressure should be more evenly distributed.

And I doubt that they did any simulation tests either.

I would argue and say they they, of course, did testing extensively - not externally though. To what extent, I am not sure.
 
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