That's a given. I was really hoping they beefed up the 6 Plus' internals but unfortunately they kept it the same as the standard 6. The iPhone needed more than 1GB RAM since the 5S when they introduced the 64-bit chip.
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That's a given. I was really hoping they beefed up the 6 Plus' internals but unfortunately they kept it the same as the standard 6. The iPhone needed more than 1GB RAM since the 5S when they introduced the 64-bit chip.
Yeah like i mentioned in another thread, this was Apples test model to see if their consumers were truly ready for a phablet. I mean why beef up a phone for a fan base that has been used to phone screen sizes 4" and under for the past 7 years? it could have been dead on arrival but i bet anything their next phablet will beefed up for sure.
That...and gives them a good sell for the "S" models next year. And let's face it, the majority of iPhone customers don't know or care what RAM is and the sales numbers prove it.
After 24 hours with my plus and REALLY pushing it to the limit, I think everyone is going overboard on this. The phone is beautifully designed and works incredibly well. No complaints here.
I agree. There's two possibilities (and these could both be true). Different people may have radically different standards about what kind of "lag" is acceptable. And people's phones may be behaving differently. I know I've been unable to replicate the problems that people have described. Even rotating the phone in Spotlight seems pretty smooth to me. While I did have a few odd freezes in the interface immediately after getting the phone, I haven't had any noticeable problems since then, so I'm thinking that the software updates helped.
Why does this conversation feel like I'm on an Android forum debating the definition of lag? Something iOS users never discussed before.
Yeah even with just reduce transparency on, everything is super smooth, even spotlight rotation. I think some people have that off based on preference, and don't see the lag. While others do see it and don't mind it, and the lucky ones that don't see it at all with default settings.
Come again? Are you joking?Fairly close poll. Interesting to learn that nearly 50% of voters are liars and/or paid by Samsung!:lol:
Hope so. Let's not be a ridiculous little fanboy.
Couldn't agree more. The iPhone 6 Plus lags, there is no question. Every single one. If you can live with it, great. But for me, it's annoying.
The reason it lags from what we understand is because on the iPhone 6 Plus specifically, iOS has to scale the interface of everything. I believe it upscales and then downscales, or something like that. This is happening everywhere and on the fly.
The iPhone 6 Plus performs similar to the iPad 3. It's slow and choppy at certain times.
First of all, you can't say every single one. Secondly, your technical knowledge is clearly limited. When saying "or something like that" it makes it clear you are reaching.
Can't deal with the lag? Return it and deal with Androids.
Yes he can. Reviews sites have reported the same. People have reported it. No reason ignore it. Just admit and and enjoy the device.
My 6+ is smoother and faster than my iPad Air which smokes the iPad 3. Your comparison is void.
They're right though. Due to the 6+ higher resolution the UI and apps have to go through strenuous scaling which the GPU (same GPU the smaller 6 has) can't handle. The behemoth that is the 6 Plus needed just bit beefier specs to handle that high res. It has the same specs as the regular 6 which just isn't enough
Open up Spotlight and rotate the screen on the 6 and 6+ and compare the smoothness.
Why is this everyones response to having a lag issue with iPhone 6 Plus? I have been in contact with an advisor at Apple who is in contact with the engineering team and they have collected logs from my iPhone twice. This tells me that there could very well be an issue with the OS.
Now, what could the lag be coming from? Here are my two guess:
1) iPhone 6 Plus' GPU not being able to handle the rendering of the screen. Everyone has to remember that the iPhone 6 Plus is downsampling to match the resolution of the screen. The phone renders at 3x with a point count of 414x736. Meaning, that when it renders the display its actually rendering an image that is 1242x2208. I believe if you take a screen shot this would also show as the resolution in a photo program. Since the screen isn't 1242x2208, the phone's GPU then has to downsample the image to 1080x1920 to display on screen, meaning that it has to run back to the GPU twice to get anything done. Literally, anything.
2) RAM shortage. Now before everyone jumps on my back here by saying "the iPhone doesn't need 2GB of RAM because the OS is efficient and has memory compression" let me explain. When the phone does have to render the display, it has to put some information into VRAM (Video Random Access Memory) which, since the A8 is a SoC (System on Chip) is taken from the main memory when needed. This can cause a significant chunk of memory to be dedicated to VRAM, and to top it off the iPhone can't use virtual memory like the Macs can. So its not like the OS can take 1GB of flash memory and use it for RAM tasks.
To top off the RAM shortage, either OS has a memory leak somewhere (I'm thinking Safari since many Jetsam Events list com.apple.webkit as the main hog) or the compression engine is not working as hard as it was under iOS 7. Now, how do I know this? Well I took an iPhone 5s on iOS 7.1.2 and maxed it out until I got a Low Memory error (for those that don't know, Apple renamed "Low Memory" errors in iOS 8 to "Jetsam Event"). I then compared the stats having to do with compressions and pages into RAM. What I saw was the 6 Plus was dealing with MORE uncompressed pages and LESS compressed pages then the iPhone 5s.
In layman terms, iOS 7's RAM compression could make 1GB of RAM act like 2-3GB of RAM. iOS 8's has an issue making 1GB of RAM act more like 1-1.5GB of RAM.
My response is this because the phone is flawless. Any lag/stutter is minimal to non existent. We're getting beyond nit picky about these devices. You can find a flaw in anything if you look hard enough. I've decided to look at the bright side, that this device is beautiful in every way.
I read this entire thread in its entirety before I got the phone. I was beyond worried, to the part where I almost returned it before I opened it and got the 6. Now, I've been playing and downloading and streaming and surfing and looking so so hard for lag and stutter... and guess what? It's simply not there. Does it happen? Yes. Has it happened on every other iOS and Android device I've ever used? Yes.
You spent $800 on a device and want perfection? Good luck. Won't happen. You'll always find something.
I agree it is nitpicking. But whatever lag or stutter there is, it is worse than the product it replaces. That is the point. This should be an upgrade not a downgrade. Maybe Android users are used to it but iOS users have been immune from it so far.
Android users may have been used to it at one point... But that changed a while ago.
Fair enough. I've tried a lot of Android phones. The only ones that were are smooth as pre-6 iPhones were the Nexus and GPE devices. At this point, the Nexus 6 is probably going to be a lot smoother and stutter-free than the 6+.
True.
The last year has made a big difference. Even the note 4, from Samsung, is incredibly smooth.
Android 5.0 will completely solve a problem that has steadily been fading.
I owe both a six plus and a note 4. Suprisingly, the note 4 is smoother.
This is very true, however IMO either the phone itself has a small hardware flaw having too little of RAM, or the OS is flawed and a major chunk of it needs a rewrite. I'm starting to think it is the software and not the hardware however, since other devices (while not as bad) are having issues as well, not just the 6 Plus.
In fact, anyone and everyone with a 6 or 6 Plus, please go into Settings>Privacy>Diagnostics & Usage>Diagnostic & Usage Data and quote me with how many JetsamEvent logs you have? This has to do with Low Memory and at one point over a two week period I gathered 80 Jetsam logs.
Agreed. I had the 5s and the lag on it (at least with 7.1.2) was no where near as bad. As I said above I believe it is just software that needs better optimization.
I don't think it's software as the 6 is not as bad as the 6+. I think it is the downscaling of the 6+ that is the issue. That won't be fixed in software. Just like the Safari tab reloading issue was never able to be fixed in software.
I still think if they fix what they broke with the compression engine the tab reloading won't be as bad. I still think they should have thrown in 2GB of RAM as the system its self could have 1GB of RAM and the apps could have 1GB of RAM. It would have worked perfectly.
I'd also like to point out the information I posted in a previous post: