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I really hope apple finds a way to work with the bezels if they plan to increase the screen size but the dam home button... Imo they need to come up with a replacement for it and explore options.
 
The balance is in the design. Wasted space versus symmetry. To a company like Apple who is very highly regarded for its design, it matters.
The design is out dated at this point, it was fine 7 years ago but as screens get bigger they can't keep super-sizing the bezel to keep the status quo. If they drop the 16:9 ratio that would help.
 
You are not alone .... I was hoping in something smaller than 4.7" .... Something like 4.3-4.5"

Really?? You're just like those kids who in the 1990's were still stuck in the 80's and wearing their old acid wash jeans, Judas Priest t-shirts, and rocking mullets.

Face it; mobile phones are getting bigger, so let's get real here.:eek:

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The design is out dated at this point, it was fine 7 years ago but as screens get bigger they can't keep super-sizing the bezel to keep the status quo. If they drop the 16:9 ratio that would help.

So, what did you think of that cheating Pineda last night??? Cheater!!! :mad:

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Does Apple think about women or girls?
I am wandering how many of them would like to have a phone as big as 4.7''? My wife is using 3.5'' phone and it is perfect for her. She will definitely not change it 4.7'' or even 4.0''.
This race for bigger screen is fine... but please keep the normal size (3.5'' was perfect) phone in the offer.

Dude, it's not that much bigger. Get over it already.
 
And many women (and men) want to use a phone with a single hand. And I believe it is a majority.

I don't think people really care about single hand use, yet to meet someone in person that plans to buy a phone because he can use it with just one hand or two, popular phones like the blackberry were used with the 2 hands by most people, I'm a fan of single hand use :) that's why I'm using SwiftKey and it's perfect imo.
 
The balance is in the design. Wasted space versus symmetry. To a company like Apple who is very highly regarded for its design, it matters.

So what happens when the iPhone's wasted space (ugly top & bottom bezels) is part of the design?

The issue here is that the iPhone is getting stale, and all designers revamp their designs after a while. If not, we'd still all be driving Model T's.

Apple is lagging here.
 
Really?? You're just like those kids who in the 1990's were still stuck in the 80's and wearing their old acid wash jeans, Judas Priest t-shirts, and rocking mullets.

Face it; mobile phones are getting bigger, so let's get real here.:eek:

Surprise surprise the best selling high end model during the last year was a 4" device .... The iPhone. Face it.

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Not if you are holding it closer than print.

No needs to keep a smartphone closer than that, unless you don't want to ruin your eyes.
 
Really?? You're just like those kids who in the 1990's were still stuck in the 80's and wearing their old acid wash jeans, Judas Priest t-shirts, and rocking mullets.

Face it; mobile phones are getting bigger, so let's get real here.:eek:

I'm not sure why when it comes to phones some people want to force others to get something they don't want. Just like not everyone wants a huge truck, not everyone wants a huge phone. There is a market for small cars just like there is a market for small phones. That isn't going to change. Apple isn't going to stop making a smaller iPhone. They know their market.
 
I believe Displaymate came out and said the S5's screen is the best available now. I believe pentile amoled has progressed and it not as static as you make it sound.

What about the 1080p LCD phones?



Well that's dumbing it down quite a bit in a manner that suits your argument.

Displaymate conclusions has nothing to do with pixel density.
 
Surprise surprise the best selling high end model during the last year was a 4" device .... The iPhone. Face it.

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No needs to keep a smartphone closer than that, unless you don't want to ruin your eyes.
And if Apple made a 6 inch phone it would sell too. I think the name Apple is what sells more than the device itself.
 
I'm not sure why when it comes to phones some people want to force others to get something they don't want. Just like not everyone wants a huge truck, not everyone wants a huge phone. There is a market for small cars just like there is a market for small phones. That isn't going to change. Apple isn't going to stop making a smaller iPhone. They know their market.

I'm afraid they are going to do that ... I can't see apple produce a 4", a 4.7" and a 5.5" iPhone all together.
I think they are going to abandon the smaller format to follow the marketing machine ....
Every time I'll be out for a trip in summer, with just shorts and tshirt, I'll regret this rush for a bigger screen that droids manufacturer started ....

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And if Apple made a 6 inch phone it would sell too. I think the name Apple is what sells more than the device itself.

It could be, but I'll still regret a smaller iPhone to keep in my pocket when off-duty with no effort.

I'm also a runner, and I usually run with my iPhone in the armband .... Very comfortable to do that with a 5.5" device ... Indeed :rolleyes:
 
Well it's certainly a great screen and regarded as better than current iphone screen

I absolutely agree on this.
But it's not the iPhone screen resolution the problem
And it is not so much better (if you read Displaymate article , they focused their analysis on S4 comparison, not iPhone ). iPhone's screen, while smaller than many other, still is among the best on the market.
 
I love iOS, so I will buy the iPhone 6 no matter what,....

wow, I'm gob smacked.. you are deffo gonna.buy something you havnt even seen... Do you live the rest of your life like this...

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I absolutely agree on this.
But it's not the iPhone screen resolution the problem
And it is not so much better (if you read Displaymate article , they focused their analysis on S4 comparison, not iPhone ). iPhone's screen, while smaller than many other, still is among the best on the market.

It's deffo in the top 6 or 7.. , just after various models from HTC, Sony, Samsung, LG, have I missed anyone off?..
 
wow, I'm gob smacked.. you are deffo gonna.buy something you havnt even seen... Do you live the rest of your life like this...

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It's deffo in the top 6 or 7.. , just after various models from HTC, Sony, Samsung, LG, have I missed anyone off?..
Link please.
It is most probably in the top 3 ....
According with anandtech analysis, iPhone's display still is the best in several tests
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/6

Displaymate is not the only player on the market dude, and I ant see any HTC or sony or lg better tha iPhone.
 
Link please.
It is most probably in the top 3 ....
According with anandtech analysis, iPhone's display still is the best in several tests
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/6

Displaymate is not the only player on the market dude, and I ant see any HTC or sony or lg better tha iPhone.

The moment anandtech stated on the iPhone 4s review that they were pulling over 7hrs of usage I stop paying attention.

The iPhone screen always been great, I'm sure that Apple will never disappoint in that department also with the camera.
 
So what happens when the iPhone's wasted space (ugly top & bottom bezels) is part of the design?

The issue here is that the iPhone is getting stale, and all designers revamp their designs after a while. If not, we'd still all be driving Model T's.

Apple is lagging here.

The design is out dated at this point, it was fine 7 years ago but as screens get bigger they can't keep super-sizing the bezel to keep the status quo. If they drop the 16:9 ratio that would help.

Their design is iconic and recognizable, even from a marketing point of view, it would be a terrible idea to change for the sake of change...
 
how certain are we

how certain are we that the i6 will have these dimensions and that much bezel?

i know that these leaks of cases etc on average tend to hold ground, but have we ever had this much evidence before and gotten a completely different product instead?

i'm just hoping that apple reduces the bezel size so that the form factor is mostly screen, otherwise i don't know if i want a 4.7 inch device.
 
Their design is iconic and recognizable, even from a marketing point of view, it would be a terrible idea to change for the sake of change...
So because Apple made a bad design they are stuck with it now? Apple changes their form factor on computers all the time.
 
I'm not sure why when it comes to phones some people want to force others to get something they don't want. Just like not everyone wants a huge truck, not everyone wants a huge phone. There is a market for small cars just like there is a market for small phones. That isn't going to change. Apple isn't going to stop making a smaller iPhone. They know their market.

wait wait wait. some people forcing something on others?

do you mean like.... apple? only giving a very specific choice to the customer? without much or any option to customize? do it and use it the way we intended it or dont do it in the first place?

not everyone wants a huge phone? not everyone wants a small phone either. apple would be clever to offer a small 4" and a larger 4.x" (no android pun intended) phone.
 
No needs to keep a smartphone closer than that, unless you don't want to ruin your eyes.
No needs?
How do you define other people needs?
You still believe those old myths that using eyes are ruining them?
Know lot of people who got blind watching crt-tv too close?
Eyes get fatigued when they are not moved and the further away is that tine screen, the less you move eyes.
Most people don't want to stare stamps from the distance, hence the average user tends to look closer for phone than tablet and even tablet is usually held closer than newspaper, magazine or computer's screen.

There is a reason why "retina" display is defined differently for different screens.
 
wait wait wait. some people forcing something on others?

do you mean like.... apple? only giving a very specific choice to the customer? without much or any option to customize? do it and use it the way we intended it or dont do it in the first place?

not everyone wants a huge phone? not everyone wants a small phone either. apple would be clever to offer a small 4" and a larger 4.x" (no android pun intended) phone.

I'm all for Apple offering multiple phone sizes. I think it is good for the market to have choices. What I find annoying is when someone says to go buy a large phone and get real. As if it isn't even a valid option to want something small. I don't go around telling people to buy fuel-efficient cars and get real. A friend of mine recently bought a large truck, but I drive a Corolla. Should I have told him to buy a cheap car and get real? Why can't people prefer both small and large phones?
 
But not all women and girls work in a corporate environment. There are many of them who don't and would like to have a truly mobile phone.
I remember 6-7 years ago (before smartphone era) the trend was completely opposite. All phones were smaller and smaller with tiny buttons. Very difficult to use for a man. I think it is all matter of common sense 3.5'' is perfect size.
Why do I need 5''? It it is not good as good as 9'' for comfortable reading or working neither as good as 3.5'' for mobility and single hand usage.

The problem is 'common sense' is subject to universality. Common sense would tell you not to walk in front of a bus... However 'perfect size' is subjective and not universal. If people truly preferred smaller phones, and I mean truly as a whole in an overwhelming percentage of smartphone users; if they truly preferred smaller phones then the trend wouldn't be larger. There are plenty of smaller Android phones made but the fact the larger ones sell more units makes it clear that the trend for consumers are larger screens and women are included in this overall number. Women that I'm friends with who do not work in corporate environments (students, coffee baristas, teachers, stay at home moms) who have Android phones still all have -with the exception of 1 person- larger Android phones.

In short, the Apple memo that clearly stated 'customers want what we don't have' would have never needed to be written or entertained if common sense was 3.5" for a phone. 3.5" seems perfect size for you and I emphasize for you because that is probably what you are and have been used to since the original iPhone release 7 years ago... That's a long time to get used to something that become the 'standard' in your mind. This lends credence to it not being 'common sense' and more of a preference based on use over time since 2007 especially when considering that as in the example I stated above walking in front of a bus being a bad idea was at no point considered a good idea and then changed over time.
 
Not to burst your bobbles here, but... You know that Samsung is playing in the grey when it comes to their display and their display technologies right?

Devices like the Samsung Galaxy S3, S4 and S5 and devices like the new Samsung Galaxy Tab and Note Pro all features AMOLED display with Pentile Matrix panels.

For those who are not that familiar with this term and what it means it basically means that Samsung is cutting down on the amount of actual underlying pixels on their panels. All these devices features only the marked amount of pixels in terms of green pixels. Each and every pixel on a display would normally feature three underlying pixels, one blue, one red and one green. But Samsung have gone about and done some trickery here and cut the amount of underlying blue and red pixels in half.

Dumbing it all down one cloud say if you take the Samsung Galaxy S5 for example, it only features a 1920x1080 resolution when there is ONLY green pixels in use. Blue and red only features effective resolution of 1280x720. If it wasn't for the marked accepting fishy marketing these devices should be marked as having a effective PPI of 343 and not 441.



If you are one of those who feel and believe the display of a Galaxy S4 / S5 is much sharper compared to a iPhone 5 / 5S then its pretty much all in your head. I 'am not one of those who claim that all this pentile nonsense from Samsung means their display is lacking quality, its not like going from 441 to 343 PPI is something anyone would ever notice in real life situations but those who keep bashing iPhone for their "lower" PPI should start getting their facts about the display technology in question straight before commenting.


The whole point behind the term "retina" is to classify a display to have such a high resolution and pixel density (PPI) under normal viewing distances and angels that getting higher resolution is pointless. Going beyond the 300+ mark is utterly pointless for the viewing experience, it will only drag the battery life down even further and require even more cpu and gpu horsepower to make thing preform perfectly.

All the reviews and analysis by those in the display industry would disagree with you; you realize this right? The S5 is now considered the new standard for displays in terms of colour reproduction, brightness, clarity, white point, deep blacks, and gamut... S-AMOLED was an issues even is recently as 1.5 to 2 years ago however it has finally matured as a technology and is poised to overtake IPS based displays in quality within the next 1 to 1.5 years all the while keeping the advantages chiefly of which is battery life. If you're going to make statements like yours at least base it on actual current data and analysis and not arguments that held weight 2+ years ago all the while technology is changing rapidly.

An excerpt from the recent shootout done by display mate:

"The first notable OLED Smartphone, the Google Nexus One, came in decidedly last place in our 2010 Smartphone Display Shoot-Out. In a span of just four years OLED display technology is now challenging and even exceeding the performance of the best LCDs across the board in brightness, contrast, color accuracy, color management, picture quality, performance in high ambient light, screen uniformity, and viewing angles."

Full article and shootout can be found at: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm
 
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