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I didn't see that before, looks like it.
I posted the picture, because of the front panel layout. Those buttons at the bottom are not a thing I want to see on a phone.

Yeah, I don't understand that design... It's not like volume rockers are that important to have on the front lol
 
Yeah, I don't understand that design... It's not like volume rockers are that important to have on the front lol

Indeed, I rather see brightness buttons, I have my phone always on a low brightness. And if you walk outside it is hard to find the slider in control center.
But still not on the front of the phone.
 
So its looks like I've got no choice to but to carry around a device.......

no choice?.. have you been banned from every phone shop in the world bar the Apple shop?..

If you limit yourself to definitely getting the next iPhone. No matter what, without weighing up the competition then at some stage u are gonna hit a point where u r not happy... So why buy something you are not happy with..

You always have a choice....
 
is like like comparing washes to each other... lol.

They may all be different, but these phones all all one thing in common...

You need Bluetooth to use them now....

Remember the days, when you could actually hold ya phone to ya head without looking like a complete weirdo ?

Those days are gone. And i hate to say it but Apple's just joined the gang.. Money makers.... that's all it is..

Come out with large products in order to sell other accessories by 100% .... :p
 
Looks like the iPhone 6 will retain a ppi of 326
While the Galaxy S5, Nexus and HTC ONE had 440+ ppi..... Apple is falling behind

Only on 1GB of RAM on the iPhone 6,another bummer!

This nonsense again .... You don't need more than 330 PPI on a smartphone, especially if you use a full RGB matrix (S5 use a pentile matrix).
If Apple is going to increase resolution on the 4.7" iPhone 6 in order to maintain a density of 330 PPI (around 720P , but Apple has a slightly different format with 16:9) I'll be perfectly happy. I don't care about marketing gimmicks that try to convince us we need 1080P.
1080P is required, at minimum, for a 5.5" iPhone, in order to maintain high pixel density.
Resolution has to be related to screen dimension , otherwise is just marketing.

As for the ram, do you know how much ram Apple is going to use? Very interesting, since no one know yet
 
I can't wait to grab that 4.7" option when it comes out. But I hope that they ditch the symmetry philosophy for the purpose of making the phone comparable in size to the 4.7" Android in the original post. I'm also hoping that the next iPhone isn't made any thinner than it already is. I kind of hope it gets slightly thicker cause I feel the 5/5s is too thin at times.

I couldn't agree more except to say that it is too thin all the time. Also, make the 6 slightly heavier: the weight of the 4S felt good in the hand.
 
Tell me...when have you ever noticed the difference, without looking up close at your screen, between the pixel densities of the iPhone and a phone with 440 PPI? The only place where I could probably see a difference, is how detailed the folder icons would be on the home screen, but unless you stare at those icons in all of your free time, nobody (sorry if you can, but I am writing based on mine and most people I know's experiences) is going to see any major differences in details or image quality. Or, has the iPhone ever experienced any slowdowns or lag because of "only" 1 GB of RAM?

Basically, don't fix what isn't broken.
Mate you are going to lose that, and you are right.
On another thread I started a discussion on that, and a very competent medic backed up my statement, but it was a waste of time: every Android user has been convinced by Samsung that without a 1080P screen you are a looser with no tomorrow ...
Do you want to try to explain them that 1080P on a pentile 5.1" device is a good thing but is totally waste on a 4" full rgb matrix phone ? Good luck :D
 
I like the other phones formats better. If the iPhone becomes to tall, it also becomes harder to use one-handed.

I don't hear anybody complaining about using the Galaxy phones (with regards to size).
 
Just because Apple said you can't distinguish the pixels during the introduction doesn't mean you actually can't. I've seen 720p vs. 1080p android phones side by side and I could clearly see a difference. As for RAM, Safari tabs reloading is incredibly annoying and more RAM could stop that.

It is not Apple, is medicine to say that.
If you look at a 5" 720P vs 5" 1080P you can (barely) see differences. On a 5.5" 720p vs 5.5" 1080P differences are clearly visible.
Did you notice what changed ? Screen dimensions ! It is not the resolution , it is the pixel density ... IPhone 5 has a density of about 330PPI that at a typical 10-12" distance is just perfect. Anything more is just wasted.
If the iPhone 6 will have a bigger screen, it will need an higher resolution to keep a pixel density above 300-330 PPI.

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I know this is on the front page now, but this fud doesn't fly in the alternatives section :p we have all used ios :). If you've really spent time with both(and no not some crappy android phone), most find that they are quite equal. Certainly not the crushing as you describe it, at the very least.

You are right but there are a lot of crappy droid out there
 
Moto X users will be like...
 

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This post is full of lies. Android does not lag at all.

I'm writing from a nexus 7. It is a wonderful device. I love it.
But there are occasions when it lags, much more than my iPad air.
And the Nexus 7 is one of the best android tablets on the market, so you can figure with worse devices ....

Every device lags, and surely Android is less optimized than iOS or even WP since it runs on very different hardware.
 
In fact recent studies have shown that iOS apps crash more consistently across almost all versions of iOS, the only exception being Gingerbread {4 years old} at 1.7% to iOS 7.1 at 1.6%, all other versions of android have fewer app crashes than iOS.

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Link: http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1097982-state-of-mobile-performance.html#document/p2

Most of the other stuff you wrote about android is also untrue ;)
The study is not meant to be used for cross platform comparison but to define which is the most stable version within the platform.

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Correct, but the pixel density will go up, as the entire industry is consolidating on higher pixel density production.

This is also true
 
I just don't understand the bigger phone priority. Some of these new phones are ridiculously big and would be the *last* thing I'd want to put in my pocket. If Apple finds a happy medium in size that gives a bit more real-estate then great. I'd just as soon see them continue to innovate in other areas and not waste time going after the mongo size screens that competitors offer.

If the tech geeks need the latest and biggest phone then have at it. The rest of us that have to live with it would rather have a quicker/snappier experience, more features and innovation in other ways.

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Something that I haven't seen anyone posted is that the G2 and Nexus 5 doesn't have a home button on the bezel.

People want smaller bezels but how do you expect Apple to do that other than chopping the top off?

Let's not forget that Android has bottom software navigation keys, essentially reducing the screen real estate to probably smaller than 4.7". I recognize that some apps can hide this bar.

I don't think Apple is incapable of reducing bezel from an engineering standpoint. I think they don't want to sacrifice a physical home button.
 
They can easily keep symmetry, iPhone's original size, Touch ID and just increase screen size with decreasing bezels, you'll get a much bigger screen size and able to use it with one hand with that:
 

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This is slightly disappointing if true, which IMO makes sense that it is. I currently have a Nexus 5 and the size of the device is great. However, I can't imagine having a device this size but with LESS screen. Ouch. Might be moving on to the Nexus 6 after all.
 
And this is exactly why the bigger form factor makes so much sense. Compared to other smartphones, this doesn't look at all out of place in terms of size.
 
I couldn't agree more except to say that it is too thin all the time. Also, make the 6 slightly heavier: the weight of the 4S felt good in the hand.


I agree on the weight for sure. Fill in the extra space with a larger battery and we're good.
 
What cracks me up is people who claim they can tell the difference vis a vis resolutions.

No you can't. Samsung screens are very bright and sharp, but that's because of the kind of screen it is, not because of the resolution. Those extra 120ppi do nothing unless you're looking at the screen from two inches away. At a normal viewing distance, the eye simply cannot differentiate pixels any more, that's the whole damn idea behind a "retina" display. Adding pixels is just pointless "more = better" chasing.

Keep in mind, I had an S4 with the 440ppi. It didn't help. The screen was wonderful, but if you sat them down in front of me and tried to get me to guess what the difference was between them, no way.
 
I'm really intrigued about the new sizes. Now the real question is, are they both gonna sport the same processing/other new features? or are they gonna have the same "cheap" iPhone/new features iPhone?
 
That's what I've been thinking too. If it's really thin, as in less than 7mm, it could make up for the tallness. But on the other hand, most would prefer a large battery. I do hope Apple will surprise us, but I just think this will be it.

I will try to make a 5.5" iPhone too :)




I just don't see an asymmetrical iPhone happen, even though it would make more sense footprint wise. The Sharp Aquos Mini is a good example of what you could do without a top bezel.

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You only need to get used to it :)




They propagated one-handed usage on a phone 6 years ago. A 4.7" or 5.5" device is something that most people see as an internet communications device instead of a traditional phone. The mobile world has changed a lot and so have peoples needs. Many use their phone or phablet to read, mail, browse, message, game, etc and using two hands is almost more common than one hand. I think that iOS8 will see more gestures to make one-handend use more easy on a larger screened device.


And personally I think that sucks badly. First they took my physical keyboard away. Now they're forcing me to change my habits again. I don't like that. I often check mails while on the go or peek at specific web based information quickly. That will become even more difficult now.

And what I don't understand is (if rumors are true) why they would come out with TWO large iphones instead of keeping the current size (or smaller) and adding a large one for those people who want them. Instead the're changing to two sizes - both of which appear to be useless for people like me.
 
Let's not forget that Android has bottom software navigation keys, essentially reducing the screen real estate to probably smaller than 4.7". I recognize that some apps can hide this bar.
You're correct on that point. Just measured and in apps that keep the keys shown on the bottom shrinks the screen down to 4.7". As you alluded to though, the benefit to these on screen buttons is that all 5" of the screen are available for certain apps; big ones being YouTube or other video apps. Kit Kat also uses a translucent navigation/status bar that gives the allusion of having all 5" available at all times (wallpaper covers the entire screen).

My home screen for example:

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What cracks me up is people who claim they can tell the difference vis a vis resolutions.

No you can't. Samsung screens are very bright and sharp, but that's because of the kind of screen it is, not because of the resolution. Those extra 120ppi do nothing unless you're looking at the screen from two inches away. At a normal viewing distance, the eye simply cannot differentiate pixels any more, that's the whole damn idea behind a "retina" display. Adding pixels is just pointless "more = better" chasing.

Keep in mind, I had an S4 with the 440ppi. It didn't help. The screen was wonderful, but if you sat them down in front of me and tried to get me to guess what the difference was between them, no way.

Good point. In the end it's about screen real estate. With which Apple tends to be very wasteful. I just got my retina 13" MBP. The good thing about the retina is that they allow you to scale it. I have it set to the smallest possible size because I want to be able to have as much information as possible on a relatively small screen.

It's the same with phones. I'm convinced Apple could do a better job of allowing more content on the current screen size. That would be more useful than making the same content just bigger on a bigger screen.
 
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