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No, they are not. They do not look ridiculous, they are not too big and they are not uncomfy. You see, the reason that you see them every day is that those are the phones that people want. They aren't being forced at gunpoint to buy those phones...


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..and people are idiots too. More isn't always better.

Why do you have to resort to name calling when others have a different idea of what phone is best for their needs?

There are caring mothers, business owners, firefighters, military service personnel, teachers and many other highly respected people from all different types of backgrounds that want/believe/have to have/highly recommend phones that have larger screens.

I think you need to rethink your priorities on how you think of others because of their choice phone.
 
Sharp just release a 1080p 4.5" phone, i think this may be the screen coming to the iPhone 6.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/22/sharps-aquos-serie-mini-phone/

Sharp showed off its IGZO LCD's that spot these high ppi's last year and one of my co-workers saw it and said that it was absolutely amazing compared to what we have seen in the past. Remember these are LCD sollutions and one needent nessearily go for AMOLED or other solutions which OEMs have opted to get higher ppi's and resolution. With the inclusion of IGZO on the Ipad Air i believe apple may consider using these high density screens for the iPhone6 even though some members here won't agree with me in the notion that retina display would not be the last time apple did its ppi and screen/display tech..Just as 3.5 or 4 " form factor is not and will not forever be the PERFECT size for ALL times..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_5zOEf692vY
 
You're right. The big iPhone will have the plastic casing and will be the 'C' iteration due to lower than expected sales of the current 5C. 'iPhone 6' will stay the same size and the same premium build.

Trust me, I'm an analyst ;)

In analysts we trust!
 
As an owner of a Note 3 I can assure you not only are these not needed, but they fit in my jeans/jacket pockets just fine.
I don't wear jackets and in no way will I start wearing low rider baller pants just to carry a tablet in my pants.
 
I think come late September 2014, we will see two iPhone models:

iPhone 5C second generation--it will look almost exactly like the current iPhone 5C, but will use the screen and internals of the iPhone 5S, including the Touch ID sensor. Will be limited to 16 and 32 GB flash memory storage capacity.

iPhone 6--it will look like a iPhone 5C writ large with a circa 4.8" (diagonal) touchscreen display. Will drop current design case in favor of an iPhone 3G/3GS like case with embedded cellullar and 802.11b/g/n/ac antenna. Case colors will be white, slate grey and "champagne" gold.
 
Why do you have to resort to name calling when others have a different idea of what phone is best for their needs?

There are caring mothers, business owners, firefighters, military service personnel, teachers and many other highly respected people from all different types of backgrounds that....

I think I just threw up a little....
 
Hey, wait a minute... i haven't got a AC router yet, and never will.

That's one "feature" down the tube..

4.8-inch screen, how can i possible hold this one ? oh wait, i can't :)
 
Not if the resolution is @3x (1704x960).

Absolutely all apps would keep using the same dimensions, positions and AutoLayout constraint, except with a 3x multiplier to transform points to pixels.

**** no! The designs would just go screwy. So you want to draw something with a hairline, do you use 1 pixel? 2? or make it the full fat 3? If you design stuff for 3x Retina, then scale to 2x retina, the edges will all go blurry. So then designers have to build everything at 6x so they have a common divisor. As if PSDs aren't big enough already... No way is that going to happen.

I would just suggest that if they go for a larger screen, they'll just scale up the pixels. Apple will still say Retina because you will be using the device further away from your eyes.
 
That's true, but I can't believe in this entire thread, nobody has mentioned built-in dictation as a mitigating factor for text entry on a phone-sized screen. Doesn't anyone else around here dictate their emails and texts? It's highly accurate and works great even while walking outside on relatively noisy city streets.

It is really accurate. But I find it hard to dictate exactly what I want to say most times. Unless it's very short and to the point, like "where are u?", I find it difficult to dictate without a bunch of "ummm's", pausing, and not dictating punctuation properly. I guess half the time I don't know really how I'm going to say something in an email until I start typing it.
 
It is really accurate. But I find it hard to dictate exactly what I want to say most times. Unless it's very short and to the point, like "where are u?", I find it difficult to dictate without a bunch of "ummm's", pausing, and not dictating punctuation properly. I guess half the time I don't know really how I'm going to say something in an email until I start typing it.

I type most emails (from my phone) away from office or home where i would not want to speak out the content in public..
 
I've used in the last few years

3", 3.5", 4", 4.2", 4.7", 5" and a 5.7" phones. From Blackberries, to iphones to samsungs to the Nexus.

the only thing I learned....

it's purely subjective. Everyone has a different idea of what the perfect phone size for them is. There's no one rule to rule them all. it is clear by the sales of larger phones that there is a clear market for devices over 4". to claim otherwise, or to believe that somehow 4" is the only good number is silly.

The made up excuses some of you use to claim why anything larger than 4" is stupid, going so far as to actually insult people not using iphones 4" screen is pretty sad and reeks of fanboy. is it so hard to say "that phone size doesn't work for me". Instead its "anyone using a big phone just likes bulges in their pockets!" or "idiots who need large phones". come on. Get off it.

Personally, I found anything less than 4.2" reminded me more of the early days of PDA's and "dumb phones". Yes, they are full smart phones, but with the smaller screen, I just felt cramped.

On the flip side. I loved my Note II's large screen for some things, but overall I felt it was too large for comfortable usage for my "small" hands. Dont get me wrong, The note II fit perfectly fine in my pants pockets. And no, they're not "low baller" pants. or "baggy jeans". they're normal everyday work dress pants and my everyday regular fit jeans.

I'm now using a 5" Nexus 5 and it feels like such a relief from the note II sizewise. No more hand cramping as I try to one hand operate it by twisting my hand at uncomfortable angles. however, I know lots of people who are happy with their Note II's size and can comfortably use it.
 
To each his own, but some of the phones that I've seen people carrying about are just comically large. Having a big screen is great, I'm sure, but I've seen multiple people carrying them with the top half sticking out of their pocket because they're just too enormous.

I'm not saying I'd never carry a bigger phone, mind you, I have a hard time seeing how anything much larger than an iPhone 5 would fit comfortably in my pocket.
 
**** no! The designs would just go screwy. So you want to draw something with a hairline, do you use 1 pixel? 2? or make it the full fat 3? If you design stuff for 3x Retina, then scale to 2x retina, the edges will all go blurry. So then designers have to build everything at 6x so they have a common divisor. As if PSDs aren't big enough already... No way is that going to happen.

I would just suggest that if they go for a larger screen, they'll just scale up the pixels. Apple will still say Retina because you will be using the device further away from your eyes.

Why would you design with 3x in mind only? 1px strokes on the @3x version would be way too thin almost invisible to see.

Take those glyphs for example:
iconset_22.jpg


They're already considered "thin", yet they're only 1 point thick (1 px at @1x, 2px at @2x, 3px at @3x). No way we'll end up with graphics that are 3 times as thin as this.

Designers are still going to design graphics with roughly the same thickness, and this won't be a problem. By the way icons are vector-based so they're likely not designed in PSDs.

And if you really need to design a bitmap right away (not vector-based), than what's the issue if you have to make a 6x version? Those icons are very small, always less than 1MB even at 6x. Storage space is really a non-issue, we're not in the 80s anymore. Even if the PSD was 100MB big, what's the issue? This is nothing compared to what print designers and photographers have to deal with.
 
I've used in the last few years

3", 3.5", 4", 4.2", 4.7", 5" and a 5.7" phones. From Blackberries, to iphones to samsungs to the Nexus.

the only thing I learned....

it's purely subjective. Everyone has a different idea of what the perfect phone size for them is. There's no one rule to rule them all. it is clear by the sales of larger phones that there is a clear market for devices over 4". to claim otherwise, or to believe that somehow 4" is the only good number is silly.

The made up excuses some of you use to claim why anything larger than 4" is stupid, going so far as to actually insult people not using iphones 4" screen is pretty sad and reeks of fanboy. is it so hard to say "that phone size doesn't work for me". Instead its "anyone using a big phone just likes bulges in their pockets!" or "idiots who need large phones". come on. Get off it.

Personally, I found anything less than 4.2" reminded me more of the early days of PDA's and "dumb phones". Yes, they are full smart phones, but with the smaller screen, I just felt cramped.

On the flip side. I loved my Note II's large screen for some things, but overall I felt it was too large for comfortable usage for my "small" hands. Dont get me wrong, The note II fit perfectly fine in my pants pockets. And no, they're not "low baller" pants. or "baggy jeans". they're normal everyday work dress pants and my everyday regular fit jeans.

I'm now using a 5" Nexus 5 and it feels like such a relief from the note II sizewise. No more hand cramping as I try to one hand operate it by twisting my hand at uncomfortable angles. however, I know lots of people who are happy with their Note II's size and can comfortably use it.

This essentially echoes my experience using phones of different screen sizes.

I can fit the Note III in my front pant pocket without it sticking out at the top and showing. However I did notice it more while walking simply due to its overall weight.

My personal sweet spot with respect to one handed use, portability, and viewing real estate falls in the 4.7"-5" category. I'm confident a 4.7"/4.8" iPhone will be a massive hit for Apple.
 
Bigger is better ? Speaking about a phone, it's just not true.
For video and books I'd like to use a full size iPad ....

And I'll refer back to the old chestnut that a phone isn't just a phone anymore, and there are plenty of use cases for devices between a 4" iPhone and a 7.9" iPad Mini.

You might see it as Device A is perfect for Task A, and Device B is perfect for Task B, but I see it more as a gradient, where someone (like me) might think Device A is a little too small to comfortably use for some things, and Device B is too large to just grab it and slide it in your pocket, so there's enough room to fit a Device C into the mix that acts as a nice in-between option.
 
That's exactly the reason why Apple silently introduced that swipe-back-gesture some time ago. Believe me, they will certainly justify the bigger screen with software tweaks like that at the coming press event. ;)

Bang on the money. It's quite easy for them to implement this (detecting the swipe back gesture) when there is a navigation controller menu active, and simply pop the view off the stack. No need to press the top nav bar button to navigate back.
 
Not really, Apple has made it VERY clear to developers to begin using the developer kit for sizing apps since the introduction of the iPhone 5. They have had multiple sources in their documents saying NOT to hardcode elements in relation to the screen.

Apple doesn't just want a bigger iPhone, they want apps for all the screen sizes in iWatches, Apple TVs, and iOS in the car.

If you're developing for Apple and screen size is still bothering you, then you're doing a bad job.

Clearly you haven't used AutoLayout on large app projects. It leaves a lot to be desired. A majority of the top applications are not running full AutoLayout solutions. Even if they are, increasing vertical height .5" (iPhone 5) is much different than a potential aspect ratio change and a move away from the standard 320 pt width that has been been the standard for all of iOS's life. If you think this won't be a big issue for developers you lack knowledge of the industry.

As for apps for all screen sizes that is irrelevant because each of those devices make compelling cases for their own design. Just as you wouldn't rely solely on AutoLayout for going between iPad and iPhone, you certainly wouldn't try to manage an iWatch version through AutoLayout. That's just ridiculous.
 
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Yep. I'd rather have the old 3.5. The 5s' speed and camera are the reason I upgraded.

Some people like large screens, some like smaller screens. What's the problem with that?

I'm surprised you're interested in any of this. Someone just linked to 2006 post where you emphatically and repeatedly stated that a phone is not a personal computer and you had no interest in treating it as such. Calendar and contacts are the name of the game. PalmOS was fine as it was.
 
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