iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Sales Top Thirteen Million in Launch Weekend

[GLS]

It does

But iPhone without samsung is just a chip-less brick.

Depends. You might be getting one with TSMC silicon inside instead. And regards to the RAM, it might be from Micron or Hynix or Toshiba.

And Chipworks shows only one Samsung chip inside an iPhone (their sample):

http://www.chipworks.com/about-chipworks/overview/blog/inside-the-iphone-6s

Now let's do inventory

• 3 x Knowles KSM2 microphones
• 2 x Apple/Cirrus Logic 338S1285 Audio IC (likely an iteration of the 338S1202 audio codec found in the iPhone 5s)
• Apple 343S00014 3D Touch Controller?
• Apple A9 APL0898 application processor
• Apple/Cirrus Logic 338S00105 Audio IC
• Apple/Dialog 338S00120 Power Management IC
• Avago ACPM 7714 Multimode Power Amplifier
• Avago AFEM-8030 Power Amplifier Module
• Bosch Sensortec 367 LA 3-axis Accelerometer (likely BMA280)
• Bosch Sensortec barometric pressure sensor BMP280 ?
• Goertek GWM1 microphone
• InvenSense MP67B 6-axis Gyroscope and Accelerometer Combo (also found in iPhone 6)
• Micron D9SND (MT53B256M64D2NL) 2 GB LPDDR4 SDRAM
• Murata 240 Front-End Module
• Murata(?) Ne G98 RF Front-End Module
• Murata(?) Yd G54 RF Front-End Module
• NXP 1610A3 (likely an iteration of the 1610A1 found in the iPhone 5s and 5c)
• NXP 66V10 NFC Controller (vs. 65V10 found in iPhone 6)
• Qorvo/RFMD RF1347 Antenna Switch Module
• Qorvo/TriQuint TQF6405 Power Amplifier Module
• Qualcomm MDM9635M LTE Cat. 6 Modem (vs. the MDM9625M found in the iPhone 6)
• Qualcomm PMD9635 Power Management IC
• Qualcomm QFE1100 Envelope Tracking IC
• Qualcomm WTR3925 Radio Frequency Transceiver
• RF Micro Devices RF5150 Antenna Switch
• SK Hynix H230DG8UD1ACS 16 GB NAND Flash
• Skyworks SKY77357 Power Amplifier Module (likely an iteration of the SKY77354)
• Skyworks SKY77812 Power Amplifier Module
• Texas Instruments 3539 Retina display driver
• Texas Instruments 65730AOP Power Management IC
• Texas Instruments 6BB27
• Texas Instruments SN2400AB0 Charger IC retained from the iPhone 6
• Universal Scientific Industrial 339S00043 Wi-Fi Module

 

[Max(IT)]

It does

But iPhone without samsung is just a chip-less brick.

Samsung electronic and Samsung semiconductor aren't the same thing...
Btw TSMC can make the same chips

 

[Palladium SG]

It does

But iPhone without samsung is just a chip-less brick.

You do know if they didn't have Apple as a customer, that will mean the collapse of their most profitable division right?

Besides there's TSMC for the SoC and Hynix / Micron / whatever for the RAM and flash storage; Samsung is hardly a monopoly as a supplier. Apple only fight battles where it matters like iOS exclusivity.

 

[kdarling]

I thought that was Samsung's trick - - doesn't Apple quote the number of devices actually sold?

You mean only counting devices sold through to end users? Nope. This is a common misunderstanding.

Whenever we see "shipped" OR "sold" numbers, whether they're from Apple, Samsung or an analyst, they mean devices for which the manufacturer has claimed revenue. It does not also mean each device is actually in the hands of a consumer.

As defined in each company's SEC filings, sales can be direct to a consumer (e.g. via an Apple Store sale -- which only counts when in the user's hands, so pre-sales and shipments are not included), or to a retailer who will later resell the device to a consumer.

The overwhelming majority of reported sales... including Apple's... are to retailers, stocking their store inventory. (Samsung claims such a sale when it arrives at the retailer. Apple claims such a sale the moment it ships to a retailer. Thus Apple is often able to boost a quarter's sales numbers by including millions of units that are simply marked as on the way to retailers.)

TL;DR - Apple includes shipments in their sales numbers.

http://bgr.com/2014/04/11/2014-apple-vs-samsung-lawsuit-galaxy-tab/

Dirty Scumsung loves using this smokescreen tactic to fool the media, claiming 2M tablets as shipped in 2011 when they knew they only sold 1M.

Nope again. First off, you misread that article: Samsung claimed 2M tablets sold worldwide in the first six weeks of 4Q2010.

Then, in the California trial, for award calculation purposes, Samsung presented a chart showing that only 260K infringing tablets were sold in the US for that period.

At the time, only about 10-15% of Samsung sales were in the US (I think it's down to 5% now), which is why the US count was similarly less than the world value. (*) Not to mention that Samsung was only including infringing devices.

The fact that there's a huge difference between talking about infringing-US numbers and talking about all-worldwide-sales numbers, is apparent to even a child.

TL;DR - Trial numbers did NOT show that Samsung had fudged sales numbers. Quite the contrary. Instead, we saw websites lazily repeating a blatantly incorrect conclusion.

(*) In fact, in that same BGR article, they reference one of their earlier articles which noted that out of the worldwide 2 million units, only 350K tablets were sold in all of North America. BGR didn't even bother to read their own link.

 

[moderately]

My reasoning is that people are becoming so damn lazy on a phone they now want shortcuts so they don't have to open an App. It's ludicrous.

This is why I agree he should be banned. Why do people not see a troll (with a 6 Plus, btw. Larger screen for "sms"?) when he is making it very clear?

Hey, give him a break. The kids have been on the lawn, like, continuously.

 

[wookiee2cu]

Apple still makes better phones than Samsung or Sony ...

That's a personal opinion, not a fact. I was with iPhone for 5 years up until the 5s and decided to give Android a try simply because I had grown tired of the locked down OS of Apple and I also jailbroke all of my iPhones and still felt limited. I've since owned 3 Samsung's and now on the Note 5 and I think they are great phones. Because I prefer customization the Android OS is a great fit for me as iOS may be a great fit for you but I really don't think one is superior over the other as they are both great phones.

In regards to the sale numbers I'm not really surprised by this as this is the first 'S' model with significant upgrades; all of the previous 'S' models were minor upgrades. This phone looks like a great device and I don't think anyone who prefers Apple devices could go wrong with this unit.

 

[croooow]

Hey, give him a break. The kids have been on the lawn, like, continuously.

Really wish you put the correct quote over my quote (the one I referenced, with "sms" in it.)

I even made it my signature

 

[Max(IT)]

That's a personal opinion, not a fact. I was with iPhone for 5 years up until the 5s and decided to give Android a try simply because I had grown tired of the locked down OS of Apple and I also jailbroke all of my iPhones and still felt limited. I've since owned 3 Samsung's and now on the Note 5 and I think they are great phones. Because I prefer customization the Android OS is a great fit for me as iOS may be a great fit for you but I really don't think one is superior over the other as they are both great phones.

In regards to the sale numbers I'm not really surprised by this as this is the first 'S' model with significant upgrades; all of the previous 'S' models were minor upgrades. This phone looks like a great device and I don't think anyone who prefers Apple devices could go wrong with this unit.

Customization and chaos & inconsistency are different things...
Go enjoy your Samsung phone

 

[Dmunjal]

Customization and chaos & inconsistency are different things...
Go enjoy your Samsung phone

I would never buy a Samsung device because of TW and lack of timely updates.

Luckily, the Nexus solves both those issues.

https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p

Pretty amazing device for $550 for 64GB.

5.7" 1440p screen with 3GB RAM in a metal body.

Compare this to a $750 Note 5 and a $850 6S+. Great deal.

 

[wookiee2cu]

Not sure what you mean by chaos & inconsistency, I haven't had one single problem with any of the 3 Samsung devices I've owned nor did I have any problems with the 4 iPhone devices I owned... like I said they are both great devices. In regards to TouchWiz for me it works just fine but again this is a personal preference.

 

[navaira]

The way to remove chaos & inconsistency:
1. Install Nova Launcher
2. Install Gel theme
3. Marvel at how pretty your phone is now

The way to remove software update problem:
...
Ugh. I don't want a Nexus. I'm staging a minor rebellion on the Dutch T-Mobile forum but results are discouraging. They skipped the original 5.1.1 update which fixed Stagefright exploit and rolled out the next one, which Sony screwed up. There is already another update where that is corrected, I expect to get it in December.

 

[moderately]

Really wish you put the correct quote over my quote (the one I referenced, with "sms" in it.)

I even made it my signature

Sorry about that. There was so much comedy and it was gold.

 

[Dmunjal]

The way to remove chaos & inconsistency:
1. Install Nova Launcher
2. Install Gel theme
3. Marvel at how pretty your phone is now

The way to remove software update problem:
...
Ugh. I don't want a Nexus. I'm staging a minor rebellion on the Dutch T-Mobile forum but results are discouraging. They skipped the original 5.1.1 update which fixed Stagefright exploit and rolled out the next one, which Sony screwed up. There is already another update where that is corrected, I expect to get it in December.

I've been using Nova for a while but even it and a theme doesn't get rid of the TW notification panel and other Samsung atrocities. Also, updates are slow if you ever get them.

What's wrong with Nexus? Arriving with Marshmallow and always up to date.

 

[HarryDevlin]

Apple today announced that opening weekend sales for the brand-new iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus have exceeded thirteen million units, breaking the previous record of ten million units sold by the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus last year.

The company claims, as with previous years, that demand for the new smartphones is at an all-time high, and confirmed that the new iPhones will be coming to 40 additional countries beginning on October 9, including Italy, Mexico, Russia, Spain and Taiwan.

- October 9: Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Greenland, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Isle of Man, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Maldives, Mexico, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan

- October 10: Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates

- October 16: India, Malaysia, Turkey

The company has stated it plans to have the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus in over 130 countries by the end of the year.

MacRumors has made a few hands-on videos showcasing some of the newer and upgraded iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus features, including Live Photos, 3D Touch, and Touch ID. As more and more customers received their orders over the weekend, the first impressions of the new devices began to roll out, leading to a large consensus of a noticeably faster experience that feels largely different than most "S" generation iPhones.

Article Link: iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Sales Top Thirteen Million in Launch Weekend

If you replace your iPhone every two years it's actually better to be on the odd-year “s” cycle. “s” models tend to have only minor feature upgrades but they resolve issues that are only found after a large number of the non-”s” phones have been sold and used.

The biggest improvement from the 6 to the 6s is one that Apple isn't even talking about—the change in aluminum alloy and the slight increase in thickness, which was a result of the “bendgate” scandal on the iPhone 6.; the iPhone 6s does not bend.

Rumors of higher resolution screens and fast charging for the 6s turned out to be false, but those will be on the iPhone 7 or 7s.

 

[navaira]

What's wrong with Nexus? Arriving with Marshmallow and always up to date.

I might give it a shot if it's water/dustproof (or "resistant") and has a microSD slot.

 

[Dmunjal]

I might give it a shot if it's water/dustproof (or "resistant") and has a microSD slot.

No SD slot but does have 128GB option.

https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p

$650 for 128GB 5.7" 1440p screen!

Apple gives you 16GB 4.7" 720p for the same price.

 

[bobob]

Remember: initial weekend sales are mostly to retailers stocking their shelves by guessing how many they need.

I thought that was Samsung's trick - - doesn't Apple quote the number of devices actually sold?

You mean only counting devices sold through to end users? Nope. This is a common misunderstanding.

Whenever we see "shipped" OR "sold" numbers, whether they're from Apple, Samsung or an analyst, they mean devices for which the manufacturer has claimed revenue. It does not also mean each device is actually in the hands of a consumer.

As defined in each company's SEC filings, sales can be direct to a consumer (e.g. via an Apple Store sale -- which only counts when in the user's hands, so pre-sales and shipments are not included), or to a retailer who will later resell the device to a consumer.

The overwhelming majority of reported sales... including Apple's... are to retailers, stocking their store inventory. (Samsung claims such a sale when it arrives at the retailer. Apple claims such a sale the moment it ships to a retailer. Thus Apple is often able to boost a quarter's sales numbers by including millions of units that are simply marked as on the way to retailers.)

TL;DR - Apple includes shipments in their sales numbers.

In my area there were no great surplus of new iPhones to be had from retailers or service providers this past weekend. I suspect the opening weekend numbers are essentially all sold units. However, I'm sure that the accounting finagling you speak of does indeed come into play over the course of the iPhone's full model year.

 

[Max(IT)]

The way to remove chaos & inconsistency:
1. Install Nova Launcher
2. Install Gel theme
3. Marvel at how pretty your phone is now

The way to remove software update problem:
...
Ugh. I don't want a Nexus. I'm staging a minor rebellion on the Dutch T-Mobile forum but results are discouraging. They skipped the original 5.1.1 update which fixed Stagefright exploit and rolled out the next one, which Sony screwed up. There is already another update where that is corrected, I expect to get it in December.

Nova launcher is like putting a lot of cosmetics on an ugly girl....

 

[HarryDevlin]

No SD slot but does have 128GB option.

https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p

$650 for 128GB 5.7" 1440p screen!

Apple gives you 16GB 4.7" 720p for the same price.

The iPhone 7 or 7s will likely have a higher resolution screen plus fast charging. Apple usually lags the competition by 1-2 years.

 

[Dmunjal]

The iPhone 7 or 7s will likely have a higher resolution screen plus fast charging. Apple usually lags the competition by 1-2 years.

Then why does it charge almost twice as much?

 

[The Game 161]

Then why does it charge almost twice as much?

Because they can.

 

[Dmunjal]

Because they can.

Because we let them.

 

[The Game 161]

Because we let them.

Yep

Sales talks...

 

[smoledman]

For the first time ever, I'm one of those millions...

 

[vvswarup]

Heading into launch of the iPhone 6s/6s+, the analysts were projected the first YoY decline in sales for the iPhone. However, Apple threw everyone a curveball with 13 million sales. It seems that in response, people are trying to find ways to prove that iPhone sales are actually slowing down by any means possible.

The strong argument appears to be that the increase in sales was almost completely attributable to China. People are saying that last year, the iPhone 6/6+ wasn't available in China so China has to be excluded in order to maintain and apples-to-apples comparison. If that's the case, then could one extend the argument and say that in order to improve comparability, sales on other carriers should be excluded from YoY comparisons with USA sales because in the beginning the iPhone was availably only on AT&T? So what if China helped Apple sell more iPhones?