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Nobody tests performance within actual apps anymore? Some big games run better on the Note 7 and some better on the 6S plus. Marvel Contest of Champions and NFS Most Wanted run better on my Note 7. But games like GTA San Andreas and Madden NFL run better on my 6S plus.
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Ok, I'll take this one.
Ipad mini 2, was fluent 3 years ago, i have had one around that time, together with an ipad air. No problems whatsoever. After a few updates it got slower, i agree.
BTW ipad air 2 was not released last year, it was the year before.

But which android/samsung has remained fluent after more than a year, and gets regular updates?
The samsung note tablet clearly had slowdowns, even when it was released, you can see all kind of reviews of it. The nexus 7 has had all kind of problems.
So with which tablet of 3 years ago you want to compare it to?
As far as i can see, ipad mini would be still the best choice.
But $800? Damn...

The Nexus 7(2013 version) was near flawless. And and has been supported all the way through.
 
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But which android/samsung has remained fluent after more than a year, and gets regular updates?

Galaxy Note II from 2012 had pen input, better split view multitasking, picture-in-picture, etc. that iPhone has yet to get and will probably still have more useful features than upcoming iPhone 7. iOS update hype is more of a placebo since you don't get full features on previous devices, it just slows down your device to force you to buy a new one and Apple uses it to primarily close the ability to jail break.
 
Nobody tests performance within actual apps anymore? Some big games run better on the Note 7 and some better on the 6S plus. Marvel Contest of Champions and NFS Most Wanted run better on my Note 7. But games like GTA San Andreas and Madden NFL run better on my 6S plus.
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The Nexus 7(2013 version) was near flawless. And and has been supported all the way through.
Yeas,

So much it was broken and not able to boot after the android lollipop update(2013 version), google it, you' ll find plenty of that....
 
Is it really that baffling?

What exactly do you do that is somehow so universal so as to cause you surprise when someone says they can use a mobile OS for work.

Even Timmy C said he can, and iOS is about the most limited mobile OS out there.

Android makes my phone a pocket-PC. iOS is not even close.

My questions is what exactly do you do that you couldn't use iOS for work? I, along with hundreds of millions of people, use my iPhone for work daily without any issues; I've yet to encounter a situation for which it hasn't been a very competent "pocket pc".
 
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My questions is what exactly do you do that you couldn't use iOS for work? I, along with hundreds of millions of people, use my iPhone for work daily without any issues.

Surfing Facebook isn't considered work. That's consumption which is fine for iOS.
 
iPhone 6S Plus renders at a similar resolution to the S7 so a test against that phone would have been fairer, but in all honesty I don't think it'd make that much difference.

Even in the processor intensive tasks where screen res will make little difference, such as the Lapse It program in that video, iPhone is still miles faster.

lol how's 6S plus have similar resolution as s7? it's 1920x1080 vs 2560x1440.. which is almost twice as much.
 
So how fast DO you drive? I mean, if you drove 70MPH instead of 65 you'd save precious time. But if you drove 75 instead of 70, more precious time. Do you run red lights? Imagine the precious time you'd get back if you didn't have to sit at red lights! Were you the one cutting in front of me in line at the fast food joint the other day to save precious time?

How much precious time do you have to save? I guess you're not really enjoying life to it's fullest considering you spend enough time each day opening apps on your phone to add up to HOURS saved by saving 0.1 seconds on each app.

Enjoy. ;)

Please think before you post. Where I have a choice, I save time, like changing my settings to ignore your posts from now on.

You should also make better use of your time by hanging out on Android forums where you'll clearly be much happier instead of hanging out on an Apple fan site, pretending to be an Apple user.
 
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Galaxy Note II from 2012 had pen input, better split view multitasking, picture-in-picture, etc. that iPhone has yet to get and will probably still have more useful features than upcoming iPhone 7. iOS update hype is more of a placebo since you don't get full features on previous devices, it just slows down your device to force you to buy a new one and Apple uses it to primarily close the ability to jail break.

Ok, so that is your answer....

You could also say that samsung or other android brands don' t give (security) updates after one year to get you to buy a new mobile.
You call it features, and i like features, but not on a slow phone which doesn't t get any updates anymore.

Of course ios updates have more features, are heavy on old hardware, but that is the only way making progress.
More complex operating systems require more memory, cpu/gpu speed.

I can still use safari and what's app, imessage, facebook, twitter , etc on my old iPhones 4, without having security leaks that won' t be fixed.
 
Hardware-wise it IS an iPhone killer. 10% physically smaller with a LARGER (higher res) screen, bigger battery and somehow they fit a stylus in there. But like Windows, it's too difficult to be a hardware manufacturer running a 3rd party software with 100% efficiency.

If the the next iPhone was the Note 7 running iOS it'd be a killer device.
Also it looks good, has waterproofing, wireless charging, an iris scanner and so on.

And unless you're comparing the two phones next to each other at the same time for the same purpose, you wouldn't notice that big a difference.
 



Earlier this month, Samsung introduced the Galaxy Note 7, its newest smartphone with a 14-nanometer Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 quad-core 64-bit processor, 4GB RAM, a 12-megapixel camera, waterproofing, and wireless charging.

Spec wise, the Galaxy Note 7 seems to best the dual-core A9 processor and the 2GB RAM of the iPhone 6s, but based on a new speed test, it's clear raw hardware can't quite match superior hardware and software integration when it comes to real world usage.

In the performance comparison in which the two phones simultaneously launched the same apps, Samsung's Galaxy Note 7 was thoroughly defeated by the iPhone 6s, despite the Note 7's cutting edge hardware and the fact that it's a year newer than Apple's latest iPhone.


The iPhone was able to launch apps in succession at a much faster rate than the Galaxy Note 7, launching 14 apps (including rendering a video) in one minute and 21 seconds and eventually lapping the Galaxy Note 7, which took two minutes and four seconds to complete the same tasks. The iPhone was able to cycle through two laps of the app test in one minute and 51 seconds, while the Note 7 took two minutes and 49 seconds, almost a full minute longer.

This is just a single test that compares an unusual usage scenario, but it does suggest Apple's efforts to deeply integrate hardware and software give the iPhone some significant benefits compared to even the latest Android devices.

Apple will be announcing a new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus in the near future with improved hardware that includes a faster, more efficient A10 processor and perhaps more RAM, at least in the larger device. The new phones are expected to debut in early September with a launch coming later in the month.

Article Link: iPhone 6s Bests Samsung's New Galaxy Note 7 in App Speed Test

I wonder if any of the performance lag has to do with the Note having to push soo many more pixels?

iPhone owner here. Just curious.
 
I wonder if any of the performance lag has to do with the Note having to push soo many more pixels?

iPhone owner here. Just curious.
Been answered so many times already in this thread. NO

There is a video of the Note 7 running at 720p and it too gets beat. (There is an app which comes pre-installed that allows the device to switch to a lower res.)

Likewise there are plenty of other 2k QHD devices with snapdragon 820 chipsets that are running better than the Note 7 in these tests such as the HTC 10, LG G5 and even the Samsung S7 Edge.

This is clearly a software issue that hopefully Samsung will address going forward. There are many users over on android fora that have devices which are exhibiting poor performance compared to it sibling devices which share the same SOC and screen resolution, so hardware can not be to blame for any discrepancy.
 
I can still use safari and what's app, imessage, facebook, twitter , etc on my old iPhones 4, without having security leaks that won' t be fixed.

Glad you're able to get some use out of it. I got rid of my iPhone 4 since it was even slower than the 4S, both were DRAM starved with only 512MB so Safari has issues rendering sites like MR or just constantly reload apps and Safari browser tabs, it was stuck on iOS 7.1.2 so incompatible with a lot of apps and the screen is just too darn microscopic. Only iOS has suffered the largest known security breach leaking nude private pictures to everyone on the internet. I got $150 trade-in on the iPhone 4 towards Galaxy Note 5 so it wasn't a complete loss.
 
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Android performs just fine.

Is it faster than the iPhone? No but does it really need to be as long as the performance difference isn't noticeable?
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Why would the media care enough if one phone is slightly faster than the other? That would be nitpicking. If a phone was very slow that's one thing but both are fast phones. iPhone is simply faster.

Wait for a few months and start putting stuff on it. It'll stutter on a daily basis as if it was having epilepsy, all that with quad cores octo cores and double triple the amount of RAM iphone has.
 
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That actually made me feel bad for the Samsung device. It got absolutely decimated... and by a phone that's almost a year old. Amazing.

Wait for a few months and start putting stuff on it. It'll stutter on a daily basis as if it was having epilepsy, all that with quad cores octo cores and double triple the amount of RAM iphone has.

Exactly. I've had 3 Android phones in my life, and they all started out great but within a 6-8 months were completely brain dead—apps crashing left and right, random phone reboots, crazy battery drain, etc. My wife had one as her first smartphone. Started out in love with it and ended up absolutely despising it. She switched to an iPhone and now she's on her third and wouldn't dream of ever going back.
 
So, Samsung is just now catching up to where Apple was 2 years ago with the iPhone 6 - at least in terms of performance.

To be fair, there are other aspects of the device that Samsung is clearly better than Apple on - the display is what comes to mind the most.

it appears that Samsung is behind Apple when it comes to JS engine performance as Anandtech review points out. Couldn't help noticing on the same Anandtech review that Apple performs less well on non-Javascript engine tests though and the reviewer lists Apple iPhone performance only when it performs better than Samsung. Wish Anandtech would use the same benchmarks to compare Orange to Orange, so it's easier to tell what's going on.
 
9. Customization: This is the greatest of all. I'm not STUCK with Apple's iOS (or even some Android implementation's) Playskool look. I can install different themes, etc, that really do personalize the device for me.
If the look of your user interface is truly your greatest priority in a smartphone, then I can understand why you would choose Android.
 
Its the opinion of quite a few people. I don't know if you've seen the Note 7 in person. I have. I'm no samsung fan but I would call the design *game-changing*

There is a reason that Apple has tapped Samsung to use the same curved edges for the 2017 iphone. I suggest you drop by your local cell phone store and check it out for yourself.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Samsung is copying Apple. Just look at Samsung before and after the first iPhone.
 
So with which tablet of 3 years ago you want to compare it to
Our Nexus 7 (the HD version) receives regular updates (seems like monthly), remains nice and fluid, is 3 years old. You mentioned problems with the Nexus 7 tablet - I believe this was the original (non HD) one. Incidentally, we have one of those too and it works fine, still receives the occasional update, although fluid it is not, it was always too slow. It works though and my mother is happy with it :D

As far as i can see, ipad mini would be still the best choice.
I'm not sure. I have a big iPad I almost never used due to the size, so when I bought my iPad mini it was literally the only one on the market that satisfied my requirements: ~8" 4:3 screen, high-DPI, LTE. Now there's more choice within these parameters, and the Samsung equivalent has a nicer AMOLED screen and it's much cheaper (the 8" S2 with LTE is ~CHF400 here vs ~CHF700 for the iPad Mini 4). Given what I do with the tablet (web browsing, YouTube, Hearthstone and book reading) it's hard to justify the price difference.

But $800? Damn...
IPAD MINI WIFI CELL 64GB SP GRAY TMO-USA Part Number: MF575LL/A Serial Number: xxxxxx Return Date: Dec. 11, 2013 $729.00
Recycling Fee $3.00
Sub-Total $732.00
Tax@8.75% $63.79
Total $795.79

So yes, at this price and age (under 3 years) I still think it shouldn't be this sluggish and limited in its ability to browse the web (not only the incessant reload, but the "An error has occurred with this web page and it was reloaded" ubiquitous error.) Safari truly is rubbish, and what can I say, I got duped by Apple and while its products are hardly "magical", its marketing surely is.
 
It is well known that Samsung Galaxy S and Notes are worse than iPhone in terms of software and stability and speed. It is no wonder it sells so less than iPhones.
 
But $800? Damn...
IPAD MINI WIFI CELL 64GB SP GRAY TMO-USA Part Number: MF575LL/A Serial Number: xxxxxx Return Date: Dec. 11, 2013 $729.00
Recycling Fee $3.00
Sub-Total $732.00
Tax@8.75% $63.79
Total $795.79
Your laundry list of fees brought you so close to the specified amount - - if only you'd added the cost of gas to drive yourself to the store to buy it, you could have gone over the top!
 
Your laundry list of fees brought you so close to the specified amount - - if only you'd added the cost of gas to drive yourself to the store to buy it, you could have gone over the top!
It's not my laundry list of fees - it's a straight copy from Apple's receipt, obtained after my purchase from the Apple Store near Stanford. You could say it's their list of fees.

I think the price you pay for the item, in the shop, is a satisfactory measure for the purpose of comparisons. Just like when I say the S2 8" Tab is ~CHF400, that includes Swiss MwSt.
 
But $800? Damn...
IPAD MINI WIFI CELL 64GB SP GRAY TMO-USA Part Number: MF575LL/A Serial Number: xxxxxx Return Date: Dec. 11, 2013 $729.00
Recycling Fee $3.00
Sub-Total $732.00
Tax@8.75% $63.79
Total $795.79
Your laundry list of fees brought you so close to the specified amount - - if only you'd added the cost of gas to drive yourself to the store to buy it, you could have gone over the top!
You could say it's their list of fees.
Despite your emphatic use of italics on the word "their", two out of three of those fees are not theirs.
 
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