You are absolutely right.
Measurements are still measurements. If i measure that my car uses 3 seconds from 0 km/h to 100 km/h, then that is a fact based out of my measurement.
No, they are a reviewer like any other reviewer that review things to find out how good the things are. Are GSMArena, PocketNow, Engadget and so on 'GOSPEL' aswell just because they praise the Note7 in their conclusions, because it's an extremely good phone?
That's correct. You should never listens to that as long as it comes from antivirus companies, because they tend to be quite exaggerated over what the reality usually is.
Again, your reading skills are pretty bad. Because you don't read what i'm writing, AT ALL. I have never said that my friends or whatever have never heard that the home button can't scratch. I'm saying that my friends or quite alot of others who have those phones from Samsung haven't experienced scratches on their home buttons or screens, even though they know it can happen.
Articles about how many peoples or devices that are affected by a malware in Android or Windows is usually exaggerated ALOT in the media. It has always been like that, so it's nothing new.
Again, read my reply over. I have never said anyone of those i'm talking about have never heard about getting scratches on their phones. I'm just saying that none of them have seen or experienced scratches on their screens on home buttons.
I'm not saying i don't believe the topics about someone downloading malware apps. I'm saying the number of affected users or on how many times a malware have been downloaded are extremely exaggerated like it is time after times in those types of articles. Again, you are so bad at reading that i don't know why you are even arguing when you don't read the damn things we write to you?
Yeah, like i base my arguments from information from well written articles to, like DisplayMate, GSMArena, PocketNow and so on. You don't like those sites, because they aren't saying the iPhone is the best phone anylonger. Well, if a webpage is 100% honest, like the webpages i mentioned over is, then they will be taken as seriously and professionals.
Still doesn't make that number even remotely close to the reality of what that reported number is. That's the thing.
So can you tell me why Apple didn't pay Displaymate money for the very positive reviews of the screens Displaymate have tested on Apple's iPhones and iPads then?
Well, i have never stated that using plastic home button is actually a good thing, have I?
You are talking about demo models in a phone store here that usually gets abused and not the units the normal users are using in normal life. We don't buy demo models of a phone from a phone store, so why should we care about demo models?
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6874413?start=0&tstart=0
Then why isn't the screen on the Galaxy Note7 flickering here?
There is alot more differences between them than just the camera: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6849&idPhone3=7821
Hint: It's called Note7 and not Note6. Anyways, there are tons of differences from the Note5 to the Note7: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?&idPhone1=7431&idPhone3=8082
Yeah, i think we have figured it out that you infact ARE really unserious in this topic after how much nonsense you throws out here.
But you are buying things from a company that uses slavery workers to build your iPhones with a very very poor payment that are living in very poor environments while Tim Cook recieves millions up on millions in dollars in bonuses?
Right, which measurements included are subjective ergo a subjective conclusion.
I am sure you are right, it is very easy being pious on the internet, very different in real life, but then, only the author knows the truth of his or her comment. But if it makes them feel good…...
Apple has done "something" about it, but i'm afraid they are doing way to little about it. There have been several documentaries about the working conditions from the workers who put together Apple's products there where it has been shown times after times that the condition at Foxconn, are BAD, and i mean REALLY BAD.
It's how everyone with an IQ higher than a monkey are seeing those articles. They are clickbaits and scaremongering towards the readers. That's how it has been for years. Why should it be any different now, just because i talk with you here?
I know that Sapphire is much much stronger than plastic. But that's not what we are talking about. I mean, come on. Don't put the discussion we have over to something i'm not talking about. Because, that just shows that you are infact out of arguments and have to put it over to something else to try and get something else to talk about.
I use my real life observations while you use a forum as an indication of a problem that barely exists. How about that?
You are to stubborn to see the real issue here. Let me explain. Samsung uses Foxconn to, but that's not the issue here. The issue is that Apple pays the workers at Foxconn very poorly and doersn't lift a finger to fix the poor working conditions at Foxconn for those workers. Just because Samsung is using Foxconn to, doesn't automaticly mean that Samsung is paying the workers at Foxconn as poorly as Apple does or let their workers work in conditions that is as bad as Apple let their workers work in.
Have i ever said that Samsung doesn't do anything stupid?
Apple is the absolute biggest contractor to Foxconn over what Samsung and others are. Therefor Apple have a much higher responsibility to take care of the working conditions there over what Samsung and others have. But again, Apple does little to fix the working conditions and the payment for it's workers. So it will continue to be a hellhole for Foxconn as long as Apple doesn't care.
Again, this is not what we are talking about. How many times do you have to throw in other arguments over what i'm talking about before you will realize that it wont work in your favour?
Samsung like everyone else messes things up from time to time. Just because an incident happened there, doesn't mean it's actually a problem or that it's something that happens all the time.
Foxconn assembles products for Apple and Samsung and who knows else. If you aren't aware that apple is doing what it can, while Samsung has essentially remained mum on this topic, you can easily do a web search.
No different than the "screen test" with the android devotees extolling the virtues of their devices based on that.This "Speed Test" has been a great excuse for Apple loving Android haters to bash the competition. Post after post extolling the virtues of iOS in the eyes of the worshippers. Just the kind of fodder ideal for a platform war.
How sweet...
No, I'm not mad... But judging by your response, someone is.
And.....
Oh?This "Speed Test" has been a great excuse for Apple loving Android haters to bash the competition. Post after post extolling the virtues of iOS in the eyes of the worshippers. Just the kind of fodder ideal for a platform war.
How sweet...
Good, you admitted sapphire is stronger than plastic...
how about I just repeat your Hi-Q comment, "my real life observations".
Ok, give me a week or so... And I'll go around and look at everyone's plastic home buttons... And I'll report back my anecdotal findings.
"Apple pays Foxconn workers very poorly and doesn't lift a finger to fix the poor working conditions..."
Stupid? Samsung?
And why do you get to dictate what we talk about? answer: because the things I want to talk about is the exact things you want to deny.
no, I didn't see that coming.
Can you prove that they aren't clickbaits and scaremongering articles then?
Again, we are not talking about sapphire here. We are talking about a home button made out of plactic that might scratch. And then you bring in that sapphire is stronger than plastic?
Yes, both of the cases with the scratching on the home button on the Samsung phones and on the Touch ID buttons on some iPhones are pretty much non-existent for the normal users who doesn't sit with a knife on the home buttons and scratches them like Jerry does.
Real life observation and real life experience is better than a forum post claiming something.
Haha, anyone who believes you that you are going to go around and look for this, just because of me, is being trolled HARD. All you are going to do is to sit home and troll like a pro on the MacRumor's forum. I'm not born yesterday and i'm not stupid and i know when someone is flat out lying.
Apple pays Foxconn who then pays their own workers. But Foxconn can't pay their workers more than what they get paid by Apple anyways. That was the whole point. You did know this, but you had to make an argument out of that to because you was out of arguments to my original argument.
Then i'm afraid you are uninformed of what Samsung is and does today. Again, i'm not saying Samsung haven't done anything stupid or dumb. All companies does something stupid and dumb from time to time, so it's something that isn't really news of some sorts.
Because going off topic isn't what we are here to do. We talk about scratches on a home button out of plastic (like we do now) and not about Sapphire glass or anything like that when that has nothing to do with plastic and scratches on a Samsung phone with a home button.
The point is still that Apple does little or pretty much nothing to fix all of the issues Foxconn have with the workers who put together Apple's products. Apple has fixed some issues through the years, but that miles way from being enough. As long as Apple get the most profits they can, they simply gives a rat ass about the contractor they use. Everyone knows that Apple prioritizes maximum profits over anything else.
Because the reports that has been done times after times so far says it is the workers who put together Apple's products that have been the persons who have committed suicide at Foxconn. Or do you have any reports that says otherwise?
Ofc Samsung might have more reported cases about this as Samsung is waaaaaay way bigger than Apple when it comes to producing producs. Look at this:
We've obviously beat a dead horse...
I trust DisplayMate in what they say from their measurements and findings about the Super AMOLED screens in the same way as you trust those who says the screen on the iPhone are great for being an IPS LCD screen.
I removed all of the pictures so the quote doesn't get so big.
I know that you trust your sources and believe my sources to be exaggerations and shills... We already went through that. I've accepted it.
I'm glad you see it too... Now that you see it, you can't un-see it, and I apologize for that. I once loved my Bose audio system too... Until someone showed me what a real system should sound like.
And as for the "demo model" ... It's a Note7. How long you think that has been on display for? The subpixel miss-registration DOESNT get worse with time. It is an inherent problem with the base design: subpixel (diamond or whatever pattern) is flawed. I'm sorry, pls stop making excuses for Samsung and rationalizing.
And in my eyes, you represent a real world sheep that is herded by Google's 80% android sheep-share.
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Again, if the issue had been that easy to see, why is no one complaining about it and why doesn't i see that on my Galaxy S6 edge+?
Again, a demo model is a demo model. They are usually abused way more than what the devices for the normal users are. So it's much easier to come across screen or other issues because of that.
DisplayMate is not wrong. They know EXACTLY what they are doing. They are professional within screen calibration market like they have been for decades, so i doubt that they don't know what they are doing. DisplayMate or no other reviewers that tests out the Samsung smartphones with a Super AMOLED screen are seeing anything of the issues you are describing.
I use the Gear VR on a daily basis and everything there are really sharp and clear. The only issue is that the 1440p resolution is a bit low for VR. We have to get to 4k screens (from smartphones) before the Gear VR will be really great.
Nope. I stand by the real life facts that everyone is saying and showing in tons of reviews while you stand by a broken demo model of a phone as a reference.
Again, Apple does way to little to fix the issues at Foxconn like i have said and what my sources are saying to. Apple says they are looking into those issues, but the reality shows that pretty much nothing gets changed in the end which are the whole point and which are the problem.
Luckily, there are 1 million other things on a smartphone today that are as much important as the speed on a phone is today. Yeah, Samsung's phones lacks the speed of the iPhones, but what about the other gazzillion things the iPhones lacks over the Samsung smartphones?
I have never denied that and i have never been talking about sapphire as i was originally talking about scratches on a plastic home button. So not sure why you did bring that up into that discussion.
You are wrong here. Everyone who uses an Android phone with the Google services gets 95% of the security fixes via the Google Play-services. The rest of the fixes is something that comes with an Android update which usually are the most critical security holes. So i would say that most gets the security fixes on Android.
Again, the Super AMOLED screens doesn't flicker.
The thing that they 'ARE TRYING' is just something they say to please their shareholders and investors. Like the sources i have shown you, pretty much nothing have been changed in the end. Yeah, you can say that might be trying, but a company with that much cash is able to solve anything if they actually cares about fixing their ***** over caring over their profits. That's a fact.
Nope, i'm just laughing my ass off that Apple is ripping you all off while they are doing mass tax avoidance in Ireland while they later sits and boast about how much money they have and so on while their blind customers thinks that's good.
Yes, Samsung makes a hell of a lot more products than just smartphones, tablets and computers. Samsung have been in the business way longer than Apple have been and Apple doesn't have as much experience in making good products as Samsung does, because what Apple does is to put together a product from using other brands stuffs. So a Samsung phone that is entirely made from only Samsung parts, are way better than just using different parts from different brands and then gets put together by uneducated slaves at Foxconn.
I would like to see some sources on your claims. Samsung as a brand between all of it's divisions is making way more money than Apple does. Apple only makes more money than what Samsung Electronics Inc (who makes the smartphones and tablets ansd such) is making. So i doubt that Samsung only makes 1 billion dollars out of building ships.
Let me tell you something that you might not be aware of. I have an uncle who was working on the worlds biggest tank boat back in the 80's. As he was working on a tanker, he was exposed to alot of chemicals through the years. That ended up by him getting sick because of it and he still have issues today because of it.
When you considers that Samsung have like 450.000 employees worldwide today, it's nothing new that cases like this can happen from time to time. There will always be incidents like those that will happen all the time, because things like this are unavoidable and it's something that will happen for a company with that many employees. Find me one company that haven't had a single reported incident through their lifetime.
Again, Apple is the biggest contractor to Foxconn, so because of that, they have more responsibility for the working conditions over what the other smaller contractor have. Ofc the smaller contractors will have some responsibility to, but Apple is the big fish in the room and have most of the responsibility. That's how it is.
