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Like what? Apple has the patents to microled displays. That is the next big thing.
Hey guys, Long time lurker...
I just wanted to chime in and point out some points that a lot (surprisingly) have forgotten and negated about the "gorgeous" display and android OS.
Seems that many like Radon87000 has forgotten the many fails of yesterday's amoled tech which is still apparent in today's Amoled screens.
For example: screen refresh rate*
Take a look at the earlier video that was posted:
Then how about the amoled Sub-pixel/ Pentile display quality issues? Need I post the links?...I can, but it's been brought up many times before. Somehow, you guys forget or naively don't know? Thought apple Sheep were the naive.
Then we forget the weekly security, malware, exploits on the adroid ecosystem & OS (millions affected which most won't get patches), which is so conveniently ignored when noting the "overpriced" Apple products.
Well, let me humbly ask, "for a device that is carried daily, used daily, and holds ALL of your most personal and business/work data... How much is privacy and security worth?"
And IF privacy and security matters to the people who don't mind spending the extra$ on Apple devices (which get security updateds frequently), then how is it overpriced and how are they sheep?
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I don't think you understand technology. A lower refresh rate on the iPhone would mask the camera flicker.
Ok, maybe I don't understand technology the same way as you do.
But
No, amoled screens are well known for slow refresh rates like fluorescent tube lights...
Analogy: Amoled is like fluorescent lights (flickers about 20 times per second), and iPhone IPS screen is like incandescent light bulbs (about 60 times per second).
[doublepost=1472180029][/doublepost]Another vid:
yeah, me no understand tech. But I can see the flicker.
Sorry
Perhaps "refresh rate" may be the wrong term* look up PWM.
Amoled displays use PWM (pulse width modulation) to control brightness, so there's always some flickering going on in Amoled displays.
Speaking of mediocrity...
Samsung Galaxy phones are almost as expensive as Apple, yet -----
-performs with mediocrity (as mentioned in this original post)
-operates on an OS that has Mediocre (at best) security and privacy (as many unpatched security flaws are reported weekly, let me know if you want links)
-mediocre product support (ie. S6 scratched glass issue, note5 pengate & gapgate...) that often will do nothing for you
-load of mediocre, half baked software enhancements like TouchWiz and Iris Scanner
-mediocre durability (gg5) scratch, fragile glass design (hey, maybe I need a rugged phone and don't like cases covering my coveted phone and think that the s7Active is butt ugly)...and not to mention the screen burn-in issues...
... It's getting late ...
So lastly,
-The FLAWED Amoled design (flicker and sub-pixel) as mentioned above and FLAWED PLASTIC home-button-fingerprint reader.
https://techpolarity.wordpress.com
And as mentioned in this video : at 2:30
So maybe, instead of calling Apple users ignorant and being duped (suckers) ... Maybe, consider us as sentient beings that is allowed make a choice towards a reliable, secure, supported, private, fast, and simple (yes, some like it simple- no bloat and easy) OS. And skip the mediocre, gimmicky (yes the edge and Iris scanner), unsecure, similarily/overpriced Samsung-xeroxed products.
And even IF the iPhone is overpriced when compared to the Chinese phones like One Plus, it is overpriced by about say $500.
Ok, $500 amortized over an average phone life of 2 years is only $10/month (2 lattes a month) ....keeping in mind that a phone is your most personal device that you store your LIFE with, that's a small price to pay In exchange for even only the security and privacy: knowing that I'm not using a platform that is funded by advertising co (but I'll leave that argument out for now).
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Interesting this review doesn't have great things to say about the note 7 but it address this type of speed test as animation lag that can be turned off.
"The worst thing you can say about the Note 7 and Touchwiz's perceived speed is that transition animations seem longer than usual. If you do side-by-side launch tests, you'll see that the Note 7 is a bit slower than your typical phone. The animation speed is an adjustable setting, though, so if you head to the Developer Options and change "Window Animation Scale," "Transition Animation Scale," and "Animator Duration Scale" from "1x" to "0.5x" or "Off," you'll see the Note 7 is just as speedy as anything else."
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...iew-whats-the-opposite-of-bang-for-your-buck/
"The worst thing you can say about the Note 7 and Touchwiz's perceived speed is that transition animations seem longer than usual. If you do side-by-side launch tests, you'll see that the Note 7 is a bit slower than your typical phone. The animation speed is an adjustable setting, though, so if you head to the Developer Options and change "Window Animation Scale," "Transition Animation Scale," and "Animator Duration Scale" from "1x" to "0.5x" or "Off," you'll see the Note 7 is just as speedy as anything else."
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...iew-whats-the-opposite-of-bang-for-your-buck/
It's because it's running the Snapdragon CPU which is known to be slow compared to the Exynos CPU. Just look here:
You should do a Google search up on Android's security. Because Android's security are extremely good for the normal user who just use the Play Store. That's a proven fact.
Android have security flaws from time to time like every other OS'es have, so that's something that is pretty impossible to get 100% patched.
I have the Galaxy S6 edge+ and some other friends of me have the nornal Galaxy S6 phone. None of us have ANY indication of scratches on the glass. Maybe you should do some research on this instead of using your arguments on false claims or on some few peoples that have been really unlucky with their screens.
The Note5's pengate was at least fixed right after Samsung saw that issue. Did Apple fix their crap when they saw that their iPhone back then had the antennagate?
Nope, they did nothing to fix their iPhone at that time.
The software enhancements Samsung have on their phones now are quite good. Samsung have also removed some of the more "half baked" enhancements they had several years ago and cleaned up their firmwares a bit since then.
And the Iris Scanner is working really great according to most reviews. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bad feature just because of that. And lastly. It's not called TouchWiz anylonger. It's called Grace UX.
Wow, talk about using bad arguments. First of all, the Galaxy Note7 flat out destroys the iPhone 6S in durability. Just look at this:
And the 'screen burn-in issue' you are talking about are so 2010-2012. Maybe you should do some fact check on todays Super AMOLED screens before you throw out false claims?
The flickering you see on some videos has nothing to do with the refresh rate on the Super AMOLED screens. It has something to do with how the cameras that are filming the screen is recording it.
In fact, the refresh rate on Super AMOLED screens are infact higher than the LCD screens. Why else do you think everyone says that anyone who should do VR should use Super AMOLED screens?
That's because Super AMOLED screens have higher refresh rate.
And when it comes to the 'sub-pixel' thing, it doesn't matter as the screen on the Galaxy Note7 completely destroys the IPS screen the iPhone 6S Plus uses. Here is the proof and fact on that: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note7_ShootOut_1.htm
Yeah, they might not use glass on the home button. But the fact is that i haven't seen or heard about anyone that have any issue with that under normal use. My Galaxy S6 edge+ that i bought almost one year ago has no scratches on the home button.
I'm sorry, but iOS has bloats aswell. Newsstand, Game Center, Compass, Stocks, Passbook just to name a few are considered bloat to many as many doesn't use those apps. And they are in the way as you can't disable those apps.
And the edge features and the Iris Scanner works good for what it is. Again, just because you don't like it doesn't make it gimmicky just because of that.
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Tom, Thanks for your reply...
Yes, I've seen some comparisons too - the Exynos is faster at loading apps, but the SD is better for games... agreed
But the Exynos also was pitted up against Apple SOC before too and still slower, I'll find the video later if necessary... because bottom line is that Samsung along with another 100 android OEMS use the SD820 and is proven to be inferior in speeds, heat [throttling] etc to the Apple A- chip.
And Samsung commands SIMILAR$ to Apple iPhone 6s. In this metric, this means that Samsung is the OVERPRICED one compared to the other Android phones like the ONEPLUS.
I can BING search Android Security and will find:
http://www.businessinsider.com/android-malware-spreads-using-google-adsense-advertising-network-kaspersky-researchers-2016-8
http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-traffic-hijack-flaw-also-affects-most-android-phones-tablets/
http://uproxx.com/life/qualcomm-android-quadrooter/
JUST a few, not to mention Godmode Hack, and the other big one that affects 4.4.2 and older (which is almost a billion android phones out there]... I'll find the links if you like.
And while I agree that Security Flaws will happen in any OS, difference is that Apple is ABLE to get updates [like the one I just got 9.3.5 today] and Android-Google-Carriers or whoever is at fault, PREVENTS many android users vulnerable.
Anecdotal... you and your friends may be lucky and got the unscratched S6s but according to XDA Developers Forum, people were on their 3rd S6edge and had microscratches galore.
http://www.xda-developers.com/is-your-galaxy-s6-edge-pre-scratched/
research? here's the link above. Either way, the link above from XDA trumps your anecdotal evidence of you and few friends...
Note5 pengate took months for a fix - and nothing for the millions that suffered a broken sensor. AND initial response from Samsung was RTFM [read the f*kn manual], then they put a STICKER on the rest of the shipping phones telling people NOT to insert the pen the wrong way.
At least for Antenagate, Steve Jobs himself addressed it and gave out free Cases - it is something, and better than a sticker or RTFM.
And BTW, here's some anecdotal evidence: I've had my iphone 5, 5c, 6s, replaced a few times due to various issues INCLUDING me dropping the 5c into water, and without applecare, Apple Store replaced the phone for free. easy, best service in the industry.
I have nothing to say if you think Grace UX or whatever it is called "quite good". The proof is in the pudding, reviews from XDA and ZDnet etc say otherwise...
http://www.xda-developers.com/with-the-note-7-samsung-still-delivers-embarrassing-real-world-performance/#comments_area
http://www.zdnet.com/article/galaxy-note-7-performance-fails-to-match-premium-price-and-specs/
and Iris Scanner? I'll go into that later.
Bad Arguments? see the above replies first. ... I'll get back into the screen thing in next post.
never*? research, google, bing it.
go ahead and search it "galaxy home button scratched"
here's one from XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/home-button-gettings-scratches-fast-t3109948
just because you never hear about it... doesn't mean it never happens.
DIFFERENCE IS
service.
go to a Samsung store with a scratched home button and they'll tell you to f-off and then apologize.
Apple? The geniuses will replace it or replace your phone if it is under warranty or applecare extended. ON THE SPOT. * on the spot, right away. No one else does or can do that. This is service, and matters to many.
Hey, just remember, you and I may not have long fingernails so it doesn't scratch the button... but the last time I checked, there are about 50% of the population that are female and most have long fingernails that can and wil scratch the button.
I meant BLOAT that slows down your system... well, something is slowing it down.
Right from Wiki.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family
"Thus the RG-BG scheme creates a color display with one third fewer subpixels than a traditional RGB-RGB scheme but with the same measured luminance display resolution."
Shared subpixels actually mean that effectively, you lose 1/3 resolution ... So if the Note7 resolution is about 520ppi minus 33% = about 333ppi which is LOWER real world sharpeness vs the 6s plus screen (about 400ppi).
Of course, you can talk about displaymate all you like, but due to their blatant ignoring of the above fact, and recommend it for VR, it is very fishy. But then again, I am not surprised because the Verge also never said anything about lag and performance issues…
As for burn-in, IT STILL HAPPENS. Go to a store with a S6 still on display and you'll see horrid burn-in. Heck, even the s7 on display are starting to show!
And if you start to negate this argument because "no one uses their screen like that", then think again--- how many Pokemon gamers or various games have static images that are on the screen for hours at a time? And maybe you don't use the phone like that... Someone does.
Point is, to each their own, and also like you have also stated, "just because a feature is not useful to you..." Well, I like to have my screen on all the time playing Pokemon or something! And don't want Burn-in! How about that?
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Well, the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy S7 was only 14 seconds slower than the iPhone 6S which is a huuuuuge difference from the 1 minute difference it is between the Galaxy Note7 and the iPhone 6S / iPhone 6S Plus.
And 14 seconds is nothing through a whole day.
When it's about the OnePlus 3 vs the Galaxy Note7, then the Note7 have alot of things that actually defends it's price. 1: Dual Edge screen. 2: Better screen resolution. 3: Better screen calibration. 4: Better back camera. 5: S Pen. 6: Water resistant (IP68). 7: Better battery life. 8: Iris Scanner that works good. 9: Multiwindow functionality. 10: Real theme support. 11: aptX support via Bluetooth. 12: Better screen contrast for usage outdoors in bright sunlight.
All of those things adds up on the price. So it's up to you to choose if those things are worth it or not. For me the Galaxy Note7 is worth all of the money, with the Exynos CPU that is.
Well yeah, i'm not saying there isn't security risks out there, because it is always a risk of that, no matter what OS you are running.
But, it's something else on finding security holes by researchers to actually finding out on how many users that actually are affected by those malwares and so on by those security holes. I'm pretty sure that number is incredible low as i rarely hear about peoples complaining about malwares and that kind of things on their phones. Because if it actually had been a problem, alot of peoples would complain about it everywhere on the internet.
Oh also, when it's about the QuadRooter malware: http://androidandme.com/2016/08/new...-its-nothing-to-worry-about-if-youre-careful/
In short, the normal users who only install apps from the Play Store are perfectly fine.
Many of the mid / high end smartphones to Samsung today gets security fixes every months. So if you look at that, Samsung is actually better than Apple here as Apple doesn't really delivers out a new iOS version every months that contains security fixes.
And those security fixes from Samsung is something that is outside of the normal OS updates. So you get those fixes from Samsung even though you haven't got any new OS updates.
Yeah, the US carriers are a pain in the ass when it comes to updates and such. But luckily, we don't have that kind of things here in Norway with the carriers. But that's a carrier issue and not an Android issue.
If you actually had bothered to read that, you will find out that this is not an issue with the device itself in any ways. It was an issue with the production of some few devices that had got those scratches. Those 2 things are a big difference.
So no, my argument are still true.
No, again, if you actually BOTHERS to search Google, you will find out that Samsung did change the pin mechanism inside the the Note5 that detects if the pen is in or out. Read this: http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/19/10789208/samsung-note-5-stylus-fix
And yes, Samsung also added an info in the S Pen software in the phone that reminds peoples to put the pen in the correct way. So Samsung did everything the right way. And yes, you should absolutely read the manual if you don't know what you are doing on the phone.
Well, to bad, many others that i know about that have iPhones doesn't see that kind of service from Apple. I think it differs ALOT from what country you are in.
I run a Note7 port ROM with Grace UX on my Galaxy S6 edge+ right now. The ROM is called RiverROM. The device is lightning fast and i have never seen a better performing ROM on it before. Not only that, but my battery life on my Galaxy S6 edge+ with this Note7 port ROM kills most other phones in battery life.
Look at this total usage time i got 2 days ago: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...6 edge+/Bilder/Screenshot_20160825-142659.png
And look at the insane screen on time i got with it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...6 edge+/Bilder/Screenshot_20160825-142710.png
Try to beat that. So don't tell me that Grace UX perform badly, because it doesn't on Exynos CPU's like my Galaxy S6 edge+ have. The issue you see that Grace UX is performing bad, is most likely because of the Snapdragon 820 CPU that might throttle way to much because of the kernel.
I have never said it's not happening. I have just said that it's rare to come over someone that have scratched the home button. Yeah, someone have written about it, but that doesn't mean it's actually a problem. Remember on how many Galaxy S6 phones Samsung have been selling. Someone will come over problems with a phone no matter how good the phone is made. That's how it is. It's the same with apps to. No matter how good you make an app, someone will complain about it.
Can you give examples on what "kind of bloat" that is slowing the Galaxy S6 series, Galaxy S7 series and the Galaxy Note7 down?
I have had the Galaxy S6 edge+ for almost a year now wher i have been running Galaxy Note5 port ROMs, Galaxy S7 edge port ROMs and now lately the Galaxy Note7 port ROM. Nothing on those ROMs i have been using have been slowed down by anything. If there is something that IS slowing down the device, it's nothing more than the RAM management that was flat out bad on the Galaxy S6 series in the beginning (which got fixed later).
I always root my phone and use Titanium Backup to remove things i don't use. And it doesn't matter on how much i remove as the device will still be as fast with the stuffs i haven't removed as it is after i have removed those stuffs. So again, it's most likely the RAM management that is the cause of some slowdowns.
Doesn't matter what the technical stuffs behind the screen is when tests after tests confirms that the screen on the Galaxy S7 series and the Galaxy Note7 are the absolute best displays that exists on any smartphones today, PERIOD.
I only care about the end results that shows that the screens on those phones from Samsung kills the other screen types that are on other phones.
And as for the burn-in issue you are talking about. The fact that you compare a demo model in a store which have the screen on all the time that is also getting quite abused by alot of peoples that want to try it out is funny, because that's far away from how the normal user are using the screen or the phones. And as for Pokemon GO, you have alot of moving objects moving around on the screen when you are around catching those things. So it's not a static image.
Samsung hasn't used the PenTile arrangement in years.
They've moved to a diamond pixel arrangement with the Note 4.
Here are the specs for the Note 7
Pixels Per Inch
518 PPI with Diamond Pixels
Sub-Pixels Per Inch
Red 366 SPPI
Green 518 SPPI
Blue 366 SPPI
Diamond Pixel displays have only half the number of
Red and Blue Sub-Pixels as standard RGB displays.
Total Number of Sub-Pixels
Red 1.8 Million Sub-Pixels
Green 3.7 Million Sub-Pixels
Blue 1.8 Million Sub-Pixels
What's your source of info?
Red 366 SPPI
Green 518 SPPI
Blue 366 SPPI
So... The phone is 366ppi NOT 518ppi
No? Yes? Maybe?
Anyways, what's in the name?
Note6 or 7?
Windows 9 or 10?
Grace UX or TouchWiz?
Retina or HD?
Diamond or Pentile...
Doesn't matter, because it still uses the SUBPIXEL design model.
Which has a bunch of shared pixels and cause image degradation over Rgb IPS.
Do you ever wonder why there are hanging pixels (red or green) on hard edges on Amoled displays? Look closely at the Google white search bar. The top is red, the bottom is green... This is a negative symptom of Amoled (shared pixel)
Want pics?
Pic attached
Is an example of the Sub pixel hang apparent on all hard edges.
Look at the top-inside of the "e", you'll see red pixels hang, and on the flat part, is green pixel hang.
And they want you to strap it to your head for VR? No thanks, the virtual reality world shouldn't have flawed edges because the real world doesn't.
Ever wonder about polish of products? Something that android OEMs like SAMSING never quite get it right.
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Tom,
I'm impressed with your persistence and taking the time to reply to my post...
Ok, agreed, 14 seconds is not much, I'll give you that.
But think about the TouchWiz [Grace UX or whatever] on the Note7 is actually the culprit. The S7 doesn't have the heavier layer for Pen and other NOTE-only enhancements that I call "bloat" that slows down your system...
Another note is that I do recall a similar test with the 820 variant of the S7 being NOT over 1min slower than the 6s. Think about that for a second. I point my fingers at the Note7 "bloat"-additional "tools"... Let's face it, Samsung's strong suit isn't software.
1. dual edge screen is useless and still deemed a gimmick by many reviewers [always starting out to say that it looks cool, but beyond that, it's a gimmick with its current implementation]
2. Better screen res: NOT according to my above post info that states that the NOTE7 is NOT 518ppi but only True 366ppi due to the subpixel controversy. : look what wiki says under "Controversy" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family
"An early controversy regarding the definition or measurement of resolution of color subpixelated flat panel displays in general, and for subpixel rendered displays in particular, led many people[23][24][25] to question the resolution claims of PenTile display products.[26] One school holds that resolution is defined by the number of red, green, and blue subpixels, in groups of three, in an array in each axis.[citation needed] The other school holds that resolution is found by counting the number of line pairs, black & white (or bright and dark) lines and spaces that may be simultaneously rendered on the screen, in each axis.[5]"
3. Better Screen Calibration - according to who? Displaymate? I call foul, I'm allowed to.
4. Better Back Camera? Well, OK, but - what about the Leica branded lens on the Huawei Phone? and that phone is also about half the price... point is, adroid "flagships" are dime a dozen and double the price for a better camera is not worth it... furthermore, I can argue that the OnePlus "light" android skin is a better experience than GraceWiz.
5. S Pen? Ok, I'll give you that one... but for me, it's a yawner and for many others like on the last Mobile Roar Podcast, they said that they've tried the Note5 pen for the first week of owning then put it away almost forever.
6. Water Resistance? Lets see how true to the Ip68 rating it really is in tests from Consumer Reports etc - hope it is not another S7active water leak issue.
7. Better Battery Life? how much better? and is it worth an extra $double$?
8. Iris scanner works good? I call gimmick. and works mediocre - picky positioning, not working with glasses, contact lens, bright lighting issues, etc etc --- seams to be cool idea, but in practice, it is a gimmick. I'd rather have a Glass fingerprint reader - no?
9. Multiwindow will be introduced on NOugat in a few days? if OnePlus and the carriers let you have it
10. Real Theme support? What's that? and do you work for Samsung? [serious question]
11. don't know
12. don't believe it.
Again, while I agree that ALL OS have security holes, Apple is the BEST at patching and getting them out to EVERYONE on IOS within reasonable time frames (now that is worth double$-for your most personal device that follows you everywhere). And again, some Android devices under 4.4.4 will never get any patches.
as for your claim on "haven't seen or heard many users affected" research and look for yourself: and discover, ignorance is not bliss:
The Kaspersky researchers call it "a gratuitous act of violence against Android users."
...
http://www.wired.co.uk/article/adult-player-android-porn-ransomware
"A malicious pornography app for Android has been extorting people who download it by taking pictures of them."
while this one is not on the Playstore, it is just an example of what NOT getting security patches in a timely manner gets you. Maybe you're lucky to be in a country that may have laws against carriers to dictate which patches you get ... North America carriers are horrible - Like Verizon, Telus, Bell which have how many subscribers? And we aren't even considering Asia and other parts of Europe yet.
http://www.cnet.com/news/malware-from-china-infects-over-10-million-android-users-report-says/
ok. Speaking of Asia... OVER 10,000,000 affected.
"At least 10 million Android devices have been infected by malware called HummingBad, according to cybersecurity software maker Check Point."
and HOW do you know for sure that your Android machine is not infected? Do you trust your virus scanners? Have you ever had your windows machine virus scanner miss things? Zero Day anyone?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/26/android_malware_whack_a_mole/
"Security researchers have discovered a strain of Android malware that keeps finding its way onto Google Play – despite the store supposedly being scrubbed clean of infiltrated apps.
The software nasty – Android.Spy.277.origin – is hidden in more than 100 applications on Google Play. Sketchy programs harboring the malware masquerade as legitimate popular games and the like, but they come with a secret backdoor."
http://www.fastcompany.com/3062867/overlay-malware-google-adsense
"The issue has since been resolved, a Google spokeswoman said in an email, adding that there's no indication the attack ever affected more than one website. "
Only one website? In the wild? Yes. and do you really believe that it was only on one website? and even if itonly one website, how many visitors did this site have and got the infection?
No, device, or issues with Samsung's production has no bearing on their mediocre implementation... furthermore, how "few" are you claiming?[/QUOTE]
proof? or are you just hearing and using anecdotes again?
yeah... fixed in January2016. When was the Pengate n5 introduced??? Sept2015?
WTF, so that means 4months worth of sales, 4months of customers in the millions got RTFM. anger. disgust. fear.
I'm thoroughly impressed.
Sounds like you're making excuses for Samsung.
My point stands. Just click on this: http://www.bing.com/search?q=scratched+home+button&src=IE-TopResult&FORM=IETR02&conversationid=
I only searched "scratched home button" and Samsung and s6 comes up automatically. Coincidence?
either way, Samsung screwed up bigtime by using plastic for a fingerprint reader/HOME button that MANY use their sharp fingernails to press [women anywhere?]
answered above.
I'm happy for you that your custom ROMs.
But do you think MANY android users custom ROM and TWEAK their phones? and even if there are, isn't that like swapping the SUSPENSION SYSTEM out of a flagship [Ferrari or something]? Isn't a Flagship Phone with the Flagship price suppose to be already "perfect"? If not, what are you paying for?
Perhaps a better analogy be: "why lower a Ferrari?"
am I making sense?
I disagree... for you to just blindly trust "tests that confirm BEST display" is... Lazy.
Amoled is STILL being improved apon and while it is good, it is not yet iPhone quality and reliability proven. So IF apple adopts Amoled for their iphone8, I hope it is not in its current state.
And as for Burn-in, bottom line is that it has a high chance of it happening because we all are using the phone MORE AND MORE each day... and I for one prefer true-reliable-longevity over the flickering-subpixel-cheating Amoled screens. Have a great weekend!
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Nope. Like i have said, the culprint is the kernel that controls the CPU or it's a RAM management issue that make the phone to take longer time to load apps. Because on my Galaxy S6 edge+ with the custom ROM that uses the Grace UX is buttery smooth and lightning fast. There is no reasons an Exynos 7420 CPU should be faster at loading apps over an Exynos 8890 CPU,
Again, i have proofs on my side that shows that the Galaxy Note7 is slow because of the Snapdragon 820 CPU. Look at this video that shows that the Galaxy S7 with the Snapdragon 820 CPU uses 2 minutes and 41 seconds to do it's job the Galaxy S7 with the Exynos CPU used only 2 minutes and 3 seconds to finish:
Now look at this video again to see that the Galaxy S7 edge with the Exynos CPU isn't only 14 seconds slower than the iPhone 6S Plus, but it's only 10 seconds slower than the iPhone 6S Plus:
And lastly, have a look at this video that shows that the Galaxy Note7 with the Snapdragon 820 CPU uses about the same time to finish it's app loading test as the Galaxy S7 with the Snapdragon 820 CPU used:
The Exynos version of the Galaxy Note7 will be as fast as the Galaxy S7 edge version with the Exynos CPU which again is about 10 seconds slower than the iPhone 6S Plus.
Yeah, soneone calls it gimmicky. I call it neat features that takes advantages of the hardware the phones comes with.
But then, pretty much everyone who have done reviews of the iPhone 6S / 6S Plus says the 3D Touch is a gimmick aswell. So it's not only Samsung's phones that have gimmicks.
Don't forget that Samsung's phones since the Galaxy S4 uses something called 'Diamond Pixel Pentile' which is not the same as the old 'PenTile Matrix' you are refering to.
DisplayMate have proven it times after times that nothing comes close to the Super AMOLED screens Samsung uses in their phones. And lately they have also proven that the screen on the Galaxy Note7 is unbeatable. Here is the proof: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note7_ShootOut_1.htm
So i have the proof while you have nothing except for your opinion. Who should i listen to?
You with your opinion or someone who are experts in screen calibrations for the professional market?
The camera on the Huawei P9 is good, but it's not as good as the camera on the Galaxy S7 edge or Galaxy Note7.
Here is another proof of that: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-Mobile-Review-A-new-champion . Here you can see that the Galaxy S7 edge is on top with 88 in score while the Huawei P9 have 80 in score as shown here: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Huawei-P9-vs.-P8-Mobile-review-Good-improvement-for-the-latest-device
Heck, even the Galaxy S6 edge+ that i have is at 87 in score: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sams...bile-review-Bigger-and-better-for-photography
When i had the Galaxy Note 4 earlier, i regulary used the S Pen. But i wasn't using the S Pen alot though. But it's still a very nice thing to have from time to time for those who uses the Galaxy phones for productivity and that. For that the S Pen is a gift from god, almost.
Why are you taking in manufacturing issues into this?
Did the Galaxy S7 / S7 edge had this issue?
No, then why should the Galaxy Note7 have that issue then?
Not only that, but Samsung admitted it was a defect from them and would fix that issue right away. And everyone who was affected by that will get a new phone from them. So Samsung did everything correctly here by addressing the issue.
The battery life on the Galaxy Note7 is quite alot better than the OnePlus 3. Here is the battery life for the Galaxy Note7 with the Exynos CPU: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/rev...eview/battery/-728/samsung-galaxy-note7-2.jpg
And here is the battery life for the OnePlus 3: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/16/oneplus-3/battery/-728/gsmarena_001.jpg
And you are not paying the double of the OnePlus 3 just for the battery alone. I did point out those 12 things in my earlier post on why the price on the Galaxy Note7 can be defended.
According to all reviews that has been done of the Galaxy Note7, everyone says the Iris scanner on the Galaxy Note7 works incredible good to be the first of it's kind on a smartphone. And i have seen test of the Iris scanner where it have scanned the eyes of a person with sunglasses on.
But yeah, as this is the first of it's kind, there will always be issues with it. But still, it works good for what it is now.
Samsung have had it all since the Note 2 came out. Android is only 4-5 years after Samsung here. And, as pretty much no one have Nougat yet, the Multiwindow functionality is still an advantage on the Samsung phones that have it as everyone can get that right now.9. Multiwindow will be introduced on NOugat in a few days? if OnePlus and the carriers let you have it
This will be an advantage until more and more phones will start to get Android 7.0 Nougat.
So just because i point out a fact that the theme support on Samsung phones, specially the new ones with Grace UX have a really great theme engine where you can change the theme and then on top of that change the icon pack on the theme, i work for Samsung just because i pointed that out?
You should try out Grace UX before you will understand how great the theme engine is and how many themes there are out there for the Samsung phones.
But i know. Look here: http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3-7995.php
No aptX support for the OnePlus 3 according to that while there is aptX support for the Galaxy Note7 as you can see here: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note7-8082.php
Well, if you don't believe the facts here: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note7_ShootOut_1.htm , then what makes you believe it then?
The fact is that you need to have an insane high amount of brightness before you can be able to show HDR videos as the Galaxy Note7 can. No other phones even comes close (except for Samsung's own phones) to the brightness the Galaxy Note7 have. The Galaxy Note7 have the insane '1048 cd/m2 (nits)' while the iPhone 6S Plus have the poor '566 cd/m2 (nits) in brightness which is half of what the Galaxy Note7 have.
Apple is better to get security fixes out to all of it's phones WHEN they release a security fix. But Apple is not fastest or best on fixing security holes at a regular basis as Samsung is faster with that as Samsung have guaranteed security fixes every months. Because fixing security holes will never stop. So because of that, Samsung is both better and faster by giving out timely security fixes to it's phones that get those security fixes.
To the first thing about Kaspersky. Don't you think Kaspersky are trying to scare the normal users and get them to buy their software on their phones by doing the scaremongering towards the users to gain more money from dumb peoples who will buy their software that wont help in any ways on Android?
And as for the first link. An app like that barely affect anyone before an app like that gets nuked by Google. The second link is from China which uses tons of other 3rd party app stores for Android. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the issue is. As China doesn't use the official Google Play Store, they are not included in the security of Android with the Play Store installed. And what is 10 million out of how many peoples in total that are using Android in China?
That's nothing.
As for the third link. Whoa there bud. Over 100 apps that are infected with malwares. That's nothing compared to the 4000+ apps that was infected with malwares in iOS's App Store: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34338362 and: http://www.darknet.org.uk/2015/09/xcodeghost-ios-trojan-infected-over-4000-apps/
And lastly, for the 4th link. Yes, as you have written there, only one webpage was affected by that and very few peoples was affected by that webpage. So nothing to worry about. So move on.
All of those posts are nothing more than scaremongering from the media. For peoples who lives with Android everyday and are more technically into Android or are an advanced user like me, knows the real story behind the malware scaremongering from the media.
Android as it is out of the box with Play Store installed is extremely safe to use. It's even safer than iOS in some areas to.
It's still a manufacturing problem that was fixed. That's not the same as having tons of scratches on the screen after you have started to use it. I don't know about anyone with a Galaxy S6 series, Galaxy S7 series phones or even the Galaxy Note 4 and the Note 5 that have any scratches on their screens.
Does scratches happens?
Ofc, but it's so rarely that it's not an issue or nothing to worry about. What about the iPhones that have scratches to?: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6s-plus-screen-scratches.1924135/ and: https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/3vqx0l/iphone_6s_has_about_a_dozen_scratches_how_is_this/
I'll guess that's not an issue, because it's Apple and they are the best, right?
The point here that you don't seems to grasp is that Samsung fixed it, which is the whole point. How long time did it take Apple to fix the Antennagate issue after that was discovered after the iPhone 4 was released?
Apple didn't bother to fix it before the iPhone 4S came out 1 year later.
4 months is heck of alot better time than 1 year.
Good. It just shows how good battery life Samsung's phones have. My Galaxy S6 edge+ only have a 3000 mAh battery to which is 600 mAh lower than the Galaxy S7 edge.
Again, i'm not denying it that scratches happens on the home button. Damnit, learn to read what i write.
What i'm saying is that the issue you are exaggerating overboard like crazy is NOT an issue for most peoples. It's rare to come over someone who have scratched the home button when you take into consideration on how many Galaxy S6 series phones Samsung have sold. Yeah, soneone is reporting about the issue some few peoples have. That doesn't mean it's actually an issue. It just means someone are reporting that some few souls have that issue.
Do you see the difference here?
I'm afraid you didn't. If you did, it must have been a poor excuse.
No, you are not making sense in what i'm talking about. I know most users doesn't root their phones and installs custom ROMs. But that's not the freaking point here. The point is that no matter how much stuffs from the ROM i removed, the phone was as fast with none of the stuffs removed as the phone was with the stuffs removed.
I just pointed out that removing much of what you guys calls for bloatware doesn't make a difference on the speed on the phones AT ALL. Yes, this has nothing to do with what the normal user does or does not do. It's all about the tests i have done when it's about the speed of the phones to Samsung, or one of their phones.
Or is this to hard for you to understand?
Question is, should i listen to what all of the reviews of the Samsung phones says about the screens on those phones, or should i listen to an Apple fanboy on a MacRumor forum?
The fact like everyone who have done reviews of Samsung phones is that nothing comes close to the Super AMOLED screens today. Samsung have developed the Super AMOLED technology in a lightning speed the last 3 years and have passed the quality of the IPS LCD screens several years ago. When the Note 4 came out, Super AMOLED passed the IPS LCD screens for the first time. After that, Super AMOLED have been developed years after years while IPS LCD screens pretty much have been sitting stand still and have barely been improved on.
And lastly, when it's about VR, you don't want to use an LCD screen for that. Thrust me on that one. LCD screen have lower refresh rate than Super AMOLED screens, so Super AMOLED screens will be better to use that way. And ofc Super AMOLED have true black that makes everything looks better in VR to.
So, what do we see after all of my replies to you here?
We see that i'm responding to a guy with no clues about Android or Samsung that are using scaremongering when it comes to malwares and are using opinions over what the hard facts says.
Have a good day and don't get stuck in the Apple-bubble forever. It's not good for your health in the longer run.
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Note7 Exynos loses again to 6s!
But it beats 6s with 10x more beatings...
2016 Gear VR review
^ It's that last video giving me second thoughts. Not the first one because software updates fixes over time. I want to get into 4K display already after not believing it much since Samsung let's us adjust to a lower resolution.
The Snapdragon 820 doesn't seem all that powerful either. Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820 is kinda disappointing like the 810 was last year. Wait for the Note8 with 4K display instead? Maybe. Been on 2K for the last two years now. Ultra HD is next up to be the driving force of VR.
But it beats 6s with 10x more beatings...
2016 Gear VR review
^ It's that last video giving me second thoughts. Not the first one because software updates fixes over time. I want to get into 4K display already after not believing it much since Samsung let's us adjust to a lower resolution.
The Snapdragon 820 doesn't seem all that powerful either. Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820 is kinda disappointing like the 810 was last year. Wait for the Note8 with 4K display instead? Maybe. Been on 2K for the last two years now. Ultra HD is next up to be the driving force of VR.
That is not proof, you can only prove a mathematical theorem. Displaymate has a subjective opinion, nothing more than Zagat of the display world.
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It's too bad not all Samsung devices released within a few months of one another are equal.
I have a feeling the Note7 have got the same RAM management issue as the Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S6 edge had in the beginning all over it again.
The Galaxy S7 edge with the Exynos CPU is waaaay way faster than the Galaxy Note7 with the Exynos CPU. Even when the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy S7 edge is much older.
It's obvious that the Galaxy Note7 have issues and needs a new kernel or need to get the RAM management fixed.
LOL, if that's not proof, then tell me exactly what a proof is then?
The fact that DisplayMate haven't been disproved yet, tells me and many others that what Displaymate are saying, is true.
You are free to counter my argument here with evidences that shows that both DisplayMate and i'm wrong.
Good luck.
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You can look up the definition of a "A proof" and report back. It's like saying Picasso was a better painter than Monet. Good luck.
A proof is sufficient evidence or an argument for the truth of a proposition. Thus i have given proof as i have evidences on my propositions or claims.
But, the fact that you don't have ANY sources or evidences to show me that says i'm wrong on what i'm saying or what DisplayMate are saying, we can't take what you are saying as proof though. I have at least given sources that contains good research on screen calibration as evidence.
I say DisplayMate is correct, because they use very expensive and professional equippment for screen calibration. The only thing you have so far, is your opinion.
You can prove that Pi is a transcendental number or 1+1 = 2, you cannot prove something looks better. (That you completely ignored my analogy says to me you have no counter) That is subjective. You can have a poll on what looks better but that is not proof.
The fact is your only argument is website xyz makes the opinion it is so. They cannot prove it, as you say.
For every 1 minute I will lose opening a bunch of apps in succession which I never do on my phone, I lose 5 minutes just turning on iTunes on my computer to do a backup I don't want. The lightning connector is iPhone's imbilical cord to my computer just to open up iTunes.
Once I sync my phone to my computer, I want it recognized and I want to manually add files through a simple copy and paste. I don't need to open another program like iTunes (aka iTrojan to me) to do simple tasks like delete photos in a certain photo album. It also is very hard to extract files from an iPhone if the files are no longer in the computer unless I use Sharepod. So I waste alot more than 5 minutes to do any simple tasks like extracting files I downloaded from my phone. I also have app shortcuts on my one-page Android homescreen. I don't need to swipe left or right to find the apps I use most.
Once I sync my phone to my computer, I want it recognized and I want to manually add files through a simple copy and paste. I don't need to open another program like iTunes (aka iTrojan to me) to do simple tasks like delete photos in a certain photo album. It also is very hard to extract files from an iPhone if the files are no longer in the computer unless I use Sharepod. So I waste alot more than 5 minutes to do any simple tasks like extracting files I downloaded from my phone. I also have app shortcuts on my one-page Android homescreen. I don't need to swipe left or right to find the apps I use most.