'iPhone 6s' Could Have 2GB of RAM and Pre-Installed Apple SIM

[Edd.Dantes]

I'll never buy this.

1GB of RAM was almost a breaking point for me. Apple should have stayed at 512MB. I honestly don't know what they are thinking.

I want my $950 phone to crash, explode with memory errors (in every smartphone situation imaginable) and I demand a single-core GPU that is so under-powered that the boot logo has to be changed to 8-bit and the actual experience stutters so much I feel like I'm on a bad trip at a rave.

I never get what I want though.

 

[Edd.Dantes]

Or in other words: you still weren't able to find a "flip flopper" to support your antisocial painting of almost the entire Macrumors forum as a herd of "iSheep" that you only visit to celebrate your superiority? Thanks.

"Join Date:
Apr 15, 2012"

I see you're new hear, relatively speaking, so we will let your sarcasm slide.

There are more flip-floppers here than a flip-flop factory in all provinces of China.

The only circumstance where you "won't" see someone renege on a previous "1GB is all that is needed by iOS, Apple is teh awesomes" is when they fail to say anything gratifying about 2GB because they know people like me will call them out and cite their past kool-aid drinking, narcissistic retardation.

Many of them exist on this, and many, Apple forums. Just because you did not participate in the discussions, and are oblivious to them, doesn't mean they didn't happen. Politely use the search feature provided to you and read for yourself. This Mexican stand-off will not have myself doing research for you.

 

[macUser2007]

I thought they sort of did with the new photo campaign.

I've owned an S2 and S4 and both take pretty bad photos and take forever to focus in low light conditions compared to the iPhone. I can't wait to see if Samsung finally remedied this with the S6.

I agree with you, I think the iPhone 6+ has the best camera currently. The S5 had a pretty poor dynamic range and blasted out light areas, while managing to lose detail in dark ones.

Obviously, we'll have to wait for real tests, but the new S6 looks pretty damned good so far:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/whos-afraid-dark-testing-galaxy-s6-cameras-low-light-performance/

 

[dec.]

I agree with you, I think the iPhone 6+ has the best camera currently. The S5 had a pretty poor dynamic range and blasted out light areas, while managing to lose detail in dark ones.

Obviously, we'll have to wait for real tests, but the new S6 looks pretty damned good so far:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/whos-afraid-dark-testing-galaxy-s6-cameras-low-light-performance/

Samsung Fanboys already have said that the iPhone 6+ camera is 10 years behind now .... Link... somewhere on this board .

 

[FelixAng]

Does this mean we could hold, though not necessarily access simultaneously, different phone numbers for one phone? It would be nice to switch-hit for business/personal usage.

 

[nviz22]

I gladly support the idea. It's very consumer friendly. Both the Nexus and iPhone are consumer friendly devices because of flexibility and timely software updates. I am willing to leave Samsung, but I hope apple focuses more on multi tasking. My iPhone 5C does less than my Note 4.

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I agree with you, I think the iPhone 6+ has the best camera currently. The S5 had a pretty poor dynamic range and blasted out light areas, while managing to lose detail in dark ones.

Obviously, we'll have to wait for real tests, but the new S6 looks pretty damned good so far:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/whos-afraid-dark-testing-galaxy-s6-cameras-low-light-performance/

Does it really matter about small differences with cameras to the average user? One has 4k capabilities and the other doesn't. So what? Both do their jobs and take amazing photos. Isocell on my Note 4 with OIS is good enough for me. If I need a camera for technical spec advantages, I would go with a high end DSLR.

 

[ElCharro]

As many have already stated, the iPad air 2 is very stable & can be pushed significantly further than the new iPhones before reloading occurs. I'm looking forward to picking up the 6S plus (?) with 2gb ram & I have no doubt it will follow the Air 2's lead. Shame it took so long though as the iPhone 6 does noticeably suffer once you've experienced the new iPad's performance.

 

[macUser2007]

...Does it really matter about small differences with cameras to the average user? One has 4k capabilities and the other doesn't. So what? Both do their jobs and take amazing photos. Isocell on my Note 4 with OIS is good enough for me. If I need a camera for technical spec advantages, I would go with a high end DSLR.

To you it may not, but to many of us, the camera matters a lot. And the differences are not so minor, but pretty noticeable.

I returned an S5 because of the poor dynamic range and ended up with the iPhone 6+, which takes noticeably better photos. I also have the Sony Z2 and the 6+ sub-optimal light photos are way better, particularly on a larger monitor.

I really hope that Samsung has a winner with the S6. I've had a couple of older Galaxies and never really liked them much, but the Edge 6 looks good (notably, sans the stupid edge widget) and I am a sucker for a good camera. We'll see.

 

[AAPLinc]

Just finally did a test.

Had 5 open tabs on Safari, each one loaded instantly when switching between them. Right where I left off. Not a single blip when clicking each tab.

Tabs were:

Macrumors Forum (desktop version)
BestBuy.com (mobile)
EntertainmentCareers.net (desktop)
PNC banking site (desktop)
Toyota Car Forum (desktop)

So in all honestly I haven't had issues with tabs needing time to load and if it's happened it wasnt enough for it to bother me or for me to notice. I have an iP6.

 

[dampfnudel]

Oh so the ram that it should have had from day one is going to get installed in the next version after they have sold 60+ million devices with 1 gig of ram and a bloated iOS 8

Well, here's hoping iOS 9 is more of a "cleanup" of iOS 8, rather than a way to convince some people with only 1 gig of ram to upgrade. I was planning to wait until the 2016 iPad models to update and it looks like I'll have another 's' model dilemma later this year (buy the 's', wait for the 7, or buy the 's' and maybe bite the bullet if the 7 body change looks even better than the 6). If iOS 9 is as bad as iOS 8, I may be forced to upgrade both my iPhone and iPad this year.

 

[cosina22]

Yeas definitely needs 2GB Ram to make the multitasking more fluid!

 

[AlecZ]

I can't believe a programmer even asking that question. I have never met a programmer that thinks any amount of memory was enough.

Haha, programmers or gamers? For some reason, at least here, the programmers tend to have the worst laptops. A bunch of them have circa-2007 cheap laptops while other students mostly have newer MBPs. I saw the same thing at Carnegie-Mellon. I'm fortunate enough to be borrowing my dad's 2012 13" rMBP since I can't carry my Mac Pro (which actually has less/slower RAM) around.

What you say has a bit of truth in my case because I actually remember running out of RAM once trying to host a Minecraft server on my iPod touch, jailbroken of course.

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You never have tabs reload? I have it happen sometimes with only 2 tabs open.

Sounds more like poor web browser design, or Safari is just being way too conservative with RAM. Safari tabs never reload on Macs, even on those iMac G3s sitting in my room. I don't know about my iPhone; I never use tabs on it.

 

[doctor-don]

So now Apple is playing catch-up with the RAM.

Problem is, not everyone can afford to upgrade his phone every year. Battery is not replaceable. Storage is fixed at whatever one can afford when he buys the phone. I prefer being able to replace my micro SD card when I need / want to do so.

I'm not sure the SIM card matters. The carrier still has to be paid in order to use the phone - except for emergency calls (9-1-1).

 

[Aetles]

Let us be clear on one point: 1 GB of ram for a smartphone in today's mobile computing environment is not enough. It is not even close to enough. No amount of optimization by Apple can get around the fact that today's complex and robust applications need an ever increasing amount of RAM.

This. Anyone claiming that 1 GB is enough does not understand the problem, or the benfits. Even very moderate use of a smartphone (a couple of web pages, a handful of apps) would benefit a lot from 2 GB of ram.

 

[AAPLinc]

Can't multi-task eh?

http://youtu.be/nCln9_mgZJo

 

[69650]

Thanks for that info. Shame but not unexpected.

I know. I've got a data plan with EE 25GB for £30/month. I tried to swap it to the Apple SIM when I bought the iPad Air 2 but EE wouldn't allow it. The best option they had with the Apple SIM installed was 10GB for £30/month. Clearly they don't want you to switch to the Apple SIM so I had to swap it out for my existing EE SIM instead.

 

[mubeenshahid]

My 3 year old note 2 with 2gb ram doesnt reload with 10tabs open

 

[robogobo]

Wow. Something doesnt add up though. If I have so little ram that switching between 2 tabs reloads the tab every time, then wouldnt that mean that I am using my LTE radio which consumes considerably more battery than ram for all those reloads?

Also, wouldnt the time spent reloading the tabs also mean that whatever I am doing takes more time to do, hence increasing necessary screen-on-time?

Maybe. Or maybe keeping more RAM active uses more battery. Only the engineers know that. One thing's for sure though, reloading all that stuff sure eats through everyone's data plan.

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Sounds more like poor web browser design, or Safari is just being way too conservative with RAM. Safari tabs never reload on Macs, even on those iMac G3s sitting in my room. I don't know about my iPhone; I never use tabs on it.

Right, because your Mac has a ton of RAM. Look at your Activity Monitor. Mine says Safari is using 462MB and the process for this tab alone is using an additional 307MB.

 

[mafaky]

So now Apple is playing catch-up with the RAM.

Problem is, not everyone can afford to upgrade his phone every year. Battery is not replaceable. Storage is fixed at whatever one can afford when he buys the phone. I prefer being able to replace my micro SD card when I need / want to do so.

I'm not sure the SIM card matters. The carrier still has to be paid in order to use the phone - except for emergency calls (9-1-1).

Just to keep you informed (and maybe alarmed...)

1) Apple is always after the "make it thinner and thinner" policy. So, unless they find a totally new innovation that can squeeze I'm more charging capacity (mAH) in a fixed volume (of a battery) and/or design the rest of iPhone's circuitry and screen the usage time of the future iPhones will remain more-or-less the same as it's today's phones (in terms of battery life...).
2) In no smartphone (inc. iPhones) you can actually upgrade the inner built memory storage. In the Androids and some Windows phones, yes you can use a microSD card that you plug into the phones or use external OTG flash drives you can plug into the micro USB connector of the phones.

But iOS devices are not "helpless" nowadays. There are at least 3 different brands of external Lightning-USB OTG-like external drives ranging from 8GB to 128GB (even one brand is preparing for a 256GB version). But these are pretty expensive, currently... Also it's up to ones personal taste whether or not use an iOS device with such external peripheral that will stick out from the device...

 

[BuffaloTF]

Spot on. Samsung's GS6 does 1080p and 4K recording. Pretty neat IMO.

But here comes to the usual Macrumor/Samsung bashing: 4k? WHY? THAT IS STUPID! Nobody needs that!

Tim Cook: Ladies and gentlemen, this new iPhone 6S is amazing in every way. And the camera has improved dramatically! For the first time ever, a 16MP iSight camera that does true 4K recording!

Same Macrumors poster: 4K? Awesome! Oh man, I can't wait to edit all of these 4k videos with iMovie! Apple raising the bar again!

Every year it's the same crap.

4k recording is stupid... In the context that if you're just shoehorning a 20 mp camera into something to check a box - like the One M9 - then it's a total waste. The One still takes garbage photos... All so it could record in 4k. Not exactly a good trade off.

Waiting and doing something right is a better plan... Sorry man. It just is.

 

[MacBH928]

The 1GB RAM confuses me. although its not enough, I had an iMac from 2002 that had 768mb RAM and it could run Final Cut Express, Photoshop, Flash, multitab browsing, and Microsoft Office and IIRC simultaneously.


So why does my iphone reloads 3 tabs? I don't know

 

[Konrad9]

Every single person who says '2GB isn't needed' is going to be calling Apple visionary when they finally drop 2GB.

 

[J. Jizzle]

Why in the world would a pre-installed Apple SIM be a good move for the iPhone? What's so difficult about taking the Nano-SIM you already have in your previous phone & putting it into your new phone? Having a preinstalled Apple SIM would just make those of us who are no longer in a contract with their carrier more difficult. I don't want to deal with having to spend more money to get another SIM activated when I already have a perfectly good Nano SIM I could use. Why not just continue to sell iPhones with no SIM included, for those of us who already have a SIM?

Would this pre-installed Apple SIM be easily removable?

 

[blackcrayon]

Why in the world would a pre-installed Apple SIM be a good move for the iPhone? What's so difficult about taking the Nano-SIM you already have in your previous phone & putting it into your new phone? Having a preinstalled Apple SIM would just make those of us who are no longer in a contract with their carrier more difficult. I don't want to deal with having to spend more money to get another SIM activated when I already have a perfectly good Nano SIM I could use. Why not just continue to sell iPhones with no SIM included, for those of us who already have a SIM?

Would this pre-installed Apple SIM be easily removable?

The Apple SIM in the iPads is. I see no reason why the one in the iPhones wouldn't be. I don't see how it would affect anything at all if you want to use your old sim. For comparison, Verizon doesn't even support the Apple Sim in iPads, you have to get a sim from them. So clearly it's removable and its use isn't required.

 

[J. Jizzle]

The Apple SIM in the iPads is. I see no reason why the one in the iPhones wouldn't be. I don't see how it would affect anything at all if you want to use your old sim. For comparison, Verizon doesn't even support the Apple Sim in iPads, you have to get a sim from them. So clearly it's removable and its use isn't required.

Thanks. I hope it would be removable. Cause for less headache