Considering they will have sold 240M Iphone 6,6+ (almost 50% more than the 5s), I think Apple knows what their client really want (more than so called "experts" here).
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'iPhone 6s' Logic Board Suggests 16GB Base Model and Updated NFC Hardware
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Considering they will have sold 240M Iphone 6,6+ (almost 50% more than the 5s), I think Apple knows what their client really want (more than so called "experts" here).
The 16gb base model is an obvious money grab by Cook and Apple to spur upsells to the 64gb model, but so long as it works, they'll keep doing it.
I disagree with Gordon, greed is NOT good. It causes companies to keep making decisions like this. It's freaking 2015 and the flagship iPhone and iPad still start with 16 GB ram.
I think a lot of people (here) complaining about Apple's base still being 16 GB, are people who wouldn't buy 16GB to begin with. I also think a lot of people (here) like to complain about specs just so they can, especially when it comes to trying to one-up those in the Android camp.
If the 16 GB model doesn't fit your purposes, why is it so important to you, that Apple do away with the base model that so many people feel suits their needs?
Just be clear. Did you intentionally contradict yourself or was this simply a typo?
Have you gotten a phone from work?
They would basically give you the lowest configuration and expect you to stuff all the work related apps, emails, pictures, videos and EVERYTHING that you need to perform the job. And don't even think about asking for a bigger storage one even if I was willing to pay for it out of my own pocket. It is NOT happening.
So far, I have been trying to unload everything onto the work laptop but it is very, very inconvenient when your supplier/client/customer wants to see the picture or video on the fly. This is one of the example.
Blame the people who keep buying the 16GB iPhone. If they keep buying them Apple will keep selling them. Anyone would do that running a business.
It's really the principle of the thing. It's a combination of the fact that prices have plummeted for flash storage over the past few years, 4GB or so of the storage is actually "unusable", and advancements in apps, cameras, etc. have increased the amount of storage needed to fully take advantage of what the phone has to offer. Apple is extremely wealthy and they are more than capable of providing more than 16GB for base storage, especially when the competition has been already doing it.
Samsung's, HTC's, and LG's flagship phones all start at 32GB, and HTC and LG offer expandable storage. Sure, Apple offer iCloud storage, but it's pricey considering Google offers free "Unlimited" now.
Saying that there are people who are "happy" with 16GB storage is an exaggeration. I don't know anyone that says "I get 16 whole gigabytes? Oh boy!!" Are there people who are "okay" with 16GB? Of course. I'm sure you could find reasons why some people would be okay with a 4GB, streaming-only model.
32GB base model wouldn't hurt anyone. Those who don't want to spend the $100 extra for a 32GB increase in flash storage (also pricey) would now get double the storage. Those who are "okay with" 16GB now get an abundance of storage that they'll never have to worry about filling up. Everyone wins, and the 64GB and 128GB options are still there, for the same price.
Apple isn't creating a base model for the "light user" crowd. It's nothing more than a business decision to make more money both by saving on lower flash storage, and making the upgrade to 64GB+ look more enticing.
Samsung's, HTC's, and LG's flagship phones all start at 32GB, and HTC and LG offer expandable storage. Sure, Apple offer iCloud storage, but it's pricey considering Google offers free "Unlimited" now.
Saying that there are people who are "happy" with 16GB storage is an exaggeration. I don't know anyone that says "I get 16 whole gigabytes? Oh boy!!" Are there people who are "okay" with 16GB? Of course. I'm sure you could find reasons why some people would be okay with a 4GB, streaming-only model.
32GB base model wouldn't hurt anyone. Those who don't want to spend the $100 extra for a 32GB increase in flash storage (also pricey) would now get double the storage. Those who are "okay with" 16GB now get an abundance of storage that they'll never have to worry about filling up. Everyone wins, and the 64GB and 128GB options are still there, for the same price.
Apple isn't creating a base model for the "light user" crowd. It's nothing more than a business decision to make more money both by saving on lower flash storage, and making the upgrade to 64GB+ look more enticing.
What's worse is that 16GB will not be exactly 16GB. It can only have approximately 12GB accessible for users. And those hidden data on apps that can't be cleared without reinstalling the app takes much space.
I want the 16GB RAM iPhone, when is it out?
Or maybe people can not afford the extra for a 64GB so apple should suck it up and make 32 GB the base model, or make the 16 GB a cheaper model and make the 32 the same price the 16 was.
I do understand what people are saying about tech coming down in price (in this example 16GB of flash storage) so as the price of the newer tech decreases as well the capacity should be increased to compensate. I get it. I have no argument where that doesn't make sense to me as a consumer. But we're not talking about the consumer making the choice here. You have a for profit company that is selling 16GB models at X price in droves and their profit margin on it is X. So what incentive really from a business perspective is there to put a different part in the phone that is going to cost them more, however nominal that cost is to them, but charge the consumer the same amount when it will decrease their profit margin and people are buying the device in unbelievable numbers in it's current configuration?
I'm not apologizing for Apple. You could use this example in any business situation and I guarantee that more companies do this than not. You can hate it all you want or scream till you're blue in the face but anyone that disagrees with this would probably do the same if they were in a position at a big corporation to make those calls when those "cents" of a difference in part costs could mean profit margin differences of MILLIONS of dollars.
Again, they are giving people a choice, SOME people just don't like the choices.
I see 3 different kinds of people in the current scenario:
1. The consumer who either doesn't have a lot of money for a phone OR doesn't want to spend a lot of money for one and is perfectly happy with a 16GB base model
2. The consumer who either doesn't have a lot of money for a phone OR doesn't want to spend a lot of money for one and has some strange sense of self entitlement that makes them think a corporation owes it to them to give them more for spending the minimum amount.
3. The consumer who realizes that 16GB is not going to fit their needs and IS willing to spend more to get a higher capacity model.
Something is only worth what someone is willing to spend for it. A lot of people think the 16GB is worth the money. I'm fairly confident Apple sells more 16GB than any other capacity. Those sales just justified still selling it. Call it greed or whatever, but it's the way business is and from a business perspective it makes sense.
Everyone wants a deal but no one seems to complain and expect things more than the people who spend the least.
I'm not apologizing for Apple. You could use this example in any business situation and I guarantee that more companies do this than not. You can hate it all you want or scream till you're blue in the face but anyone that disagrees with this would probably do the same if they were in a position at a big corporation to make those calls when those "cents" of a difference in part costs could mean profit margin differences of MILLIONS of dollars.
Again, they are giving people a choice, SOME people just don't like the choices.
I see 3 different kinds of people in the current scenario:
1. The consumer who either doesn't have a lot of money for a phone OR doesn't want to spend a lot of money for one and is perfectly happy with a 16GB base model
2. The consumer who either doesn't have a lot of money for a phone OR doesn't want to spend a lot of money for one and has some strange sense of self entitlement that makes them think a corporation owes it to them to give them more for spending the minimum amount.
3. The consumer who realizes that 16GB is not going to fit their needs and IS willing to spend more to get a higher capacity model.
Something is only worth what someone is willing to spend for it. A lot of people think the 16GB is worth the money. I'm fairly confident Apple sells more 16GB than any other capacity. Those sales just justified still selling it. Call it greed or whatever, but it's the way business is and from a business perspective it makes sense.
Everyone wants a deal but no one seems to complain and expect things more than the people who spend the least.
For the people complaining about the 16GB and attempting to make a point that 4K takes up too much space. Did it ever occur to any of you that Apple may not put 4K in the baseline iPhone? They could very well release the 4K phones with storage starting at 64GB so there may not necessarily be an entry-level 4K iPhone.
Looks to me like you just made the 'I think I am entitled to get more storage at the same price, because Apple is rich' argument.
Saying you don't believe anyone is happy with a 16 GB model means nothing, except that you were trying to make a logical fallacy argument.
Apple is in the business to make money. At this point, the business model wth the 16 GB base has been working very well for them, in spite of what many here seem to think.
It seems to me you missed the point I was making, as well as the fact that it was only a small part of the argument I was making. My point there, is that if the competition is already there, and has been there, why not at least meet them if not beat them?
Saying that there are people who are happy with 16GB could also very well be a logical fallacy argument.
I'm an owner of a 64GB iPhone 6. I'm happy with the deal I got, and need 64GB to be content with what I do with my phone. Increasing the base model to 32GB would benefit me personally in no way whatsoever. I still think it needs to be done, because if we sit idly by, we would never get improvements in this regard.
I also realize and understand why Apple is doing this, as I mentioned in my last couple of sentences. I know they're a business. I know they want to make the most money possible. But, I also think that they're being unnecessarily cheap in this situation.
But with bigger Apps sizes and 4K and other new features.
16GB Is simply not enough.
It's so 2009
And it was a lot for the iPhone 4 in June 2010
But for a phone that will be coming in September 2015 is pretty stupid.
Not everyone needs a 64 GB phone either. There is a reason Apple is giving us 64 GB for the price of 32 GB but not 32 GB for the price of 16 GB. $$$$
I'm not even mad at this anymore. I think it's just hilariously ridiculous. And people defending the 16 GB even more so.
Its not really a cheaper version though is it? Its the same price that the entry level model has been for years. What you are forgetting is that memory has gotten much cheaper over that time so they updated the storage on the other 2 models, no doubt at no extra cost to them, but they continue with 16gb for the entry level iPhone to increase their profits. Its petty nickel and diming trying to force people to spend more money.
Looks to me like you just made the "Apple is entitled to get more money for the same amount of storage as 2009's iPhone 3GS, because people are paying for it" argument.
If it's true that the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus sales are being driven primarily due to larger screen size, then it stands to reason that if Apple doesn't add some truly revolutionary tech to the 6S (force touch isn't it), then given the same base storage amount of 16 GB, people will simply be buying the older and cheaper 6 and 6 Plus (or 6C... if Apple's foolish enough to name it that, considering what it's a phonetic slang for in Chinese)
That is true.
I think one of the big reasons (for Apple) is keeping a big profit margin, not to mention the 16 GB helps bring in new customers, as well as keeping current ones who don't want more or can't afford it.