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iPhone 7 better be up to VR display specs like Sammy

patent10021

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iPhone is really behind in display specs. This never used to be a problem since publications and 2D graphics still look good on 1080p, but now we have VR. It's a whole new game. 1080p does not cut it with VR. Not when your eyes are an inch away from the display.

This is why I believe that the iPhone 7 might represent the true end of the SJ era if they don't have their act together for the iPhone 7. Even if they match the specs of of other displays they are just playing catch up. The addition of the Flux feature in 9.3 is a good example of how they can no longer think for themselves.

They really need to maximize GPU/Metal tech and release the iPhone 7 with the best display in the market.
 
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What VR device would the iPhone use? Since there is no VR demand for the iPhone unlike Samsung which actually has a complementary VR device, why would Apple sink resources to make the iPhone VR friendly?
 
geoff5093 said:
Google Cardboard works with the iPhone, and even has an app.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-cardboard/id987962261?mt=8

I tried it on my S7 Edge, and even with it's 2560x1440 resolution it was very pixelated.
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Good to know. But it would be shockingly uncharacteristic for Apple to upgrade its specs to support a third party device (heck something made by Google!!). I wouldn't hold my breath for VR support on iPhone unless Apple comes out with its own VR device.
 
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patent10021 said:
iPhone is really behind in display specs. This never used to be a problem since publications and 2D graphics still look good on 1080p, but now we have VR. It's a whole new game. 1080p does not cut it with VR. Not when your eyes are an inch away from the display.

This is why I believe that the iPhone 7 might represent the true end of the SJ era if they don't have their act together for the iPhone 7. Even if they match the specs of of other displays they are just playing catch up. The addition of the Flux feature in 9.3 is a good example of how they can no longer think for themselves.

They really need to maximize GPU/Metal tech and release the iPhone 7 with the best display in the market.
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Apple isn't Samsung. I don't want to go around living a virtual life, sorry. (not sorry)
 
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patent10021 said:
iPhone is really behind in display specs. This never used to be a problem since publications and 2D graphics still look good on 1080p, but now we have VR. It's a whole new game. 1080p does not cut it with VR. Not when your eyes are an inch away from the display.

This is why I believe that the iPhone 7 might represent the true end of the SJ era if they don't have their act together for the iPhone 7. Even if they match the specs of of other displays they are just playing catch up. The addition of the Flux feature in 9.3 is a good example of how they can no longer think for themselves.

They really need to maximize GPU/Metal tech and release the iPhone 7 with the best display in the market.
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Sorry. I don't see the point in this for email, texting, Facebook or minor web browsing.

Also, I'm not into using my phone as a VR device. If I want that I'll just buy a VR device. I want my phone to be a phone, not a gaming rig.
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geoff5093 said:
Sounds like you don't need an iPhone if that's all you do.
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Why does NEED have to factor into this at all?

I get an iPhone or any other technological device because I WANT it. Screw need!
 
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geoff5093 said:
Sounds like you don't need an iPhone if that's all you do.
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No one needs an iPhone. The benefit to me extends to the interoperability between all my Apple devices, i.e., the automatic sync with my Mac Pro that happens when I put my phone in the charger, synced passwords, etc. For the most part, everything just works. Plus, I'm not poor so I dont mind paying the Apple tax to get what I want.
 
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dcpmark said:
No one needs an iPhone. The benefit to me extends to the interoperability between all my Apple devices, i.e., the automatic sync with my Mac Pro that happens when I put my phone in the charger, synced passwords, etc. For the most part, everything just works. Plus, I'm not poor so I dont mind paying the Apple tax to get what I want.
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You said you just need it for calls, texts, and email. You mentioning Icloud syncing sounds like you use it for more than those 3 things.
 
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geoff5093 said:
You said you just need it for calls, texts, and email. You mentioning Icloud syncing sounds like you use it for more than those 3 things.
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That's correct. I don't NEED a phone to sync with the rest of my ecosystem, any more than I need it to strap into a cardboard headpiece to pretend I've got access to some new VR world of wonder. It's a phone.

The fact that it syncs with my Apple ecosystem perfectly merely explains why I eventually choose Apple over Android, but both platforms do calls, texts, and emails perfectly well.
 
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willmtaylor said:
I've still yet to hear a compelling argument for VR, period.

If only Apple would do a 3D display like the Amazon Fire phone. :rolleyes:
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Honestly though, that'd be better than VR. I love to go hiking and camping and sometimes playing a game on my phone by the bonfire or by the water. But like, virtual realty? There'd be no point to go outside. :/

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(Or something like that, I don't know, I may not be sober right now.)

M83: Do it, Try it.
 
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I'd say Apple has a good 3 gens of iPhones before they need to worry about VR....if VR doesn't fade to the dark shadows again. Although VR is really getting pushed, I just don't see this being any sort of a need for Apple right now. Don't get me wrong, VR is awesome and I got to test one of the Occulus Rifts and it blew me away, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Apple has this obsession with thinness that needs to go away way before they need to worry about VR capabilities.
 
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It's not that apple NEEDS to it's that it represents where they are competitively.

Before you could debate that issue with minute differences in screen sizes or 1GB vs 2GB RAM, but those days are gone. Even Apple's fabulous A# chip efficiency really is no longer relevant because it's gotten to the point where even mediocre chips are powerful enough for everything now.

Many of you don't care about VR but you should because it's value for your money. And if you're into AAPL you definitely should care. AR and VR is what everything will be within 730 days. There are already VR app stores for mobile devices including Apple devices. VR is pretty much already a standard gauge of current hardware capability. Good VR headsets can be had for $100. Samsung Gear is very vey good. If your device can't do VR with zero pixelation then your device is already legacy.

The iP7 display ends to be at least what Sammy has now. Their camera is also miles ahead. If Apple didn't care they wouldn't be releasing a double cyclops camera. So they should also care about VR capability.

You will remember this thread in 2017.
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got556 said:
I'd say Apple has a good 3 gens of iPhones before they need to worry about VR.
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Sorry, you're very wrong.
 
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patent10021 said:
It's not that apple NEEDS to it's that it represents where they are competitively.

Before you could debate that issue with minute differences in screen sizes or 1GB vs 2GB RAM, but those days are gone. Even Apple's fabulous A# chip efficiency really is no longer relevant because it's gotten to the point where even mediocre chips are powerful enough for everything now.

Many of you don't care about VR but you should because it's value for your money. And if you're into AAPL you definitely should care. AR and VR is what everything will be within 730 days. There are already VR app stores for mobile devices including Apple devices. VR is pretty much already a standard gauge of current hardware capability. Good VR headsets can be had for $100. Samsung Gear is very vey good. If your device can't do VR with zero pixelation then your device is already legacy.

The iP7 display ends to be at least what Sammy has now. Their camera is also miles ahead. If Apple didn't care they wouldn't be releasing a double cyclops camera. So they should also care about VR capability.

You will remember this thread in 2017.
[doublepost=1459998377][/doublepost] Sorry, you're very wrong.
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If you say so. I'll agree with you that Sammy's cameras on the Note and S phones are much better than the 6S cameras. But honestly, while the screen on the Samsung phones are gorgeous, I could stand to stay at 1080p and be happy. After that, all you're doing is robbing battery.
 
got556 said:
If you say so. I'll agree with you that Sammy's cameras on the Note and S phones are much better than the 6S cameras. But honestly, while the screen on the Samsung phones are gorgeous, I could stand to stay at 1080p and be happy. After that, all you're doing is robbing battery.
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When you use VR you're usually in a place where you are not concerned with battery life since you are also wearing a headset. i.e. home. People have been complaining about battery life since the first iPod. People have car chargers and wall worts. The only time battery life is an issue is when you're NOT using VR ironically.
 
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patent10021 said:
It's not that apple NEEDS to it's that it represents where they are competitively.

Before you could debate that issue with minute differences in screen sizes or 1GB vs 2GB RAM, but those days are gone. Even Apple's fabulous A# chip efficiency really is no longer relevant because it's gotten to the point where even mediocre chips are powerful enough for everything now.

Many of you don't care about VR but you should because it's value for your money. And if you're into AAPL you definitely should care. AR and VR is what everything will be within 730 days. There are already VR app stores for mobile devices including Apple devices. VR is pretty much already a standard gauge of current hardware capability. Good VR headsets can be had for $100. Samsung Gear is very vey good. If your device can't do VR with zero pixelation then your device is already legacy.

The iP7 display ends to be at least what Sammy has now. Their camera is also miles ahead. If Apple didn't care they wouldn't be releasing a double cyclops camera. So they should also care about VR capability.

You will remember this thread in 2017.
[doublepost=1459998377][/doublepost] Sorry, you're very wrong.
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I will disagree with you completely. To say that Vr will be everything in 730 is interesting, but for fun, I will agree with you. Even if it is, its not the phone that will power that, Oculus VR, the best known VR requires an extremely powerful pc, no phone can run it. You say if you can't do VR without pixelation my device is legacy, guess my S7 edge is legacy.

VR may or may not become mainstream, we will see. I really like it so far, I like the Gear VR, especially watching Netflix, but its a novelty right now. I will agree the S7 Edge Camera is better right now, especially in low light.
 
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