iPhone 7 Could Have Touch-Sensitive Home Button as Waterproof and Dustproof Rumors Persist

Mercifull said:
Stale and predictable... or iconic? There's a reason that car manufacturers have kept the same grille design for decades. Can you imagine a BMW without the kidneys?
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Exactly ! Change doesn't need to come, just because of change - it need to be there for a reason, and if you look at Porsche 911's from every version, they changed just enough, but not too much - Perfected the shape, design and the function
 
I can count the number of iPhones I have dropped in water on the fingers of one foot!
I suppose underwater images might be possible but with a wide angle lens they won't be any good.
 
Rogifan said:
Can someone provide a list of all the mindblowing innovations in smartphones right now? All I see incremental improvements to make existing phones better. Nothing mindblowing though. What exactly do people want though? I'm sure pretty much anything you list could be labeled as incremental.
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Mindblowing innovations = features I want

Current list of "mindblowing innovations" seems to include small bezels, amoled, curved glass, waterproofing.
 
igorsky said:
I'm finding this to be the case on tech blogs (from insightful and tech-savvy people like yourself) and maybe in the investor community, but not with people who actually use their products on a regular basis. These people, for some crazy reason, still love Apple.
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Soooooo... what I'm getting from your multiple declarative quotes is either:
1. You think your anecdotes and opinions are fact, and anyone with a differing opinion is wrong.
2. If you didn't experience something it didn't happen. Kinda like "Pics or it didn't...
3. You're auditioning to be an analyst. That pro Apple analyst who only issues opinions that agree with Apple's current direction. An opinion that will only change after Apple changes direction.
4. Profit
 
69Mustang said:
Soooooo... what I'm getting from your multiple declarative quotes is either:
1. You think your anecdotes and opinions are fact, and anyone with a differing opinion is wrong.
2. If you didn't experience something it didn't happen. Kinda like "Pics or it didn't...
3. You're auditioning to be an analyst. That pro Apple analyst who only issues opinions that agree with Apple's current direction. An opinion that will only change after Apple changes direction.
4. Profit
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I understood none of this. So...thanks?
 
freediverx said:
The physical button is one of the best design features in iOS products and the lack thereof one of the most annoying things about Android devices. Ergonomics matter.
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The Samsung Galaxy lines have a physical home button. Work just fine. So do a number of other android devices.
 
igorsky said:
I'm finding this to be the case on tech blogs (from insightful and tech-savvy people like yourself) and maybe in the investor community, but not with people who actually use their products on a regular basis. These people, for some crazy reason, still love Apple.
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As ever, the geeks are throwing rocks into the middle of the lake and the waves are spreading outwards. The more rocks the geeks lob, the bigger the waves. The geeks gave Apple the buzz it has today, just as the geeks breathed life into Google, Twitter, etc. If the geeks move on, others will follow in time.
 
MadeTheSwitch said:
The Samsung Galaxy lines have a physical home button. Work just fine.
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Are you being sarcastic?
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MacHiavelli said:
As ever, the geeks have thrown the rock into the middle of the lake and the waves are spreading outwards. The more rocks the geeks lob, the bigger the wave. The geeks gave Apple the buzz it has today, just as the geeks breathed life into Google, Twitter, etc. If the geeks move on, others will follow in time.
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If the geeks make up the 200m units in sales, then you may have a point. But I'm glad you're reviving the "Apple is doomed" meme.
 
pward said:
If people are expecting mind-blowing innovation in phones in future then I suspect they will be disappointed. Smartphones are becoming/have become a mature technology and improvements in mature technologies tend to be smaller than in their nascent days.

Assuming the rumours are true, there is a reasonable list of small improvements but ultimately things aren't going to change significantly in future. What more "innovation" do people want? Remember, true innovation is both new AND useful...
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If you cannot innovate, then lower the price!

I will not pay USD 700+ for a new phone that gives me nearly no significant improvements (real improvements that I will feel on a day-to-day use case), compared to my 1,5 years old iphone 6!

If tomorrow my iphone would stop working, I would buy a Nexus 5X (or something comparable) for half the price of an iphone 6s... The "apple factor" for me is not worth more then double the price of the competition.

Apple started to lower the prices in the history also when they could not innovate anymore, best example is the ipod. When I bought my first ipod in 2004, the iPod Photo 60GB cost me a whopping US$ 599...
Fours years later my ipod stopped working and I replaced it with the iPod Classic 80GB for US$ 249 !!!

By the way, its not that I cannot afford an iphone, but I want to get something for my $$$
 
umm.. you mean like the "water-proof" Apple didn't tell us, but users found out about ? That one? Good that Aple will now be open,, and maybie we'll start seeing more people tweeting under water. and lots of photos of gold fish
 
igorsky said:
Are you being sarcastic?
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If the geeks make up the 200m units in sales, then you may have a point. But I'm glad you're reviving the "Apple is doomed" meme.
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The geeks tell people what to buy. Most of the people I know today use Apple products because they saw my Apple tech and they asked me for advice on what to buy. Ten years ago, everyone around me had Windows PCs and BlackBerry phones. Today they all have Macs and iPhones. Most people I know have also abandoned Office.

Apple can't afford to lose its cool and credibility with the tech-savvy community/developers.

I love Apple. But it needs to up its game. Too many influencers are losing interest in Apple's offerings.

I don't think Apple is doomed. But it is in a mess (which will lead to decline if not arrested). A temporary mess, I hope.
 
vmachiel said:
I knew this day would come, but I'll actually mis the physical home button. Great for a quick screenshot, and reliable to do resets or DFU mode if the software froze or broke.
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I repeatedly see people bring up the fact that they need a home button for when the phone freezes. Apple will obviously take this into consideration and give some way of doing a hard reboot. Same thing goes for taking screenshots. These are simple obstacles to overcome.
 
My wife's iPhone 4S gets a bit long in the tooth. I am interested in the iPhone 7. Understood that the iPhone 8 a year later might be the one to wait for but that's another year out.
 
Tech198 said:
umm.. you mean like the "water-proof" Apple didn't tell us, but users found out about ? That one? Good that Aple will now be open,, and maybie we'll start seeing more people tweeting under water. and lots of photos of gold fish
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Water resistant is not water proof.
 
I'd rather have a battery that lasts 3 days with heavy usage.

It's the iPhone 8 that people want it will have a whole new design and won't be so tall.
 
NT1440 said:
Water resistant is not water proof.
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I realize that.. however i was going by what Apple didn't tell us about the last watch being water-resistant... but uses found out about by doing tests in a pool.

davidbf1 said:
Haven't ALL buttons for decades (even centuries) been "touch sensitive"??
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I remember touch sensitive buttons with clam-shell phones. Seems this is back in design as "a new trend"
 
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braintumor said:
If you cannot innovate, then lower the price!

I will not pay USD 700+ for a new phone that gives me nearly no significant improvements (real improvements that I will feel on a day-to-day use case), compared to my 1,5 years old iphone 6!

If tomorrow my iphone would stop working, I would buy a Nexus 5X (or something comparable) for half the price of an iphone 6s... The "apple factor" for me is not worth more then double the price of the competition.

Apple started to lower the prices in the history also when they could not innovate anymore, best example is the ipod. When I bought my first ipod in 2004, the iPod Photo 60GB cost me a whopping US$ 599...
Fours years later my ipod stopped working and I replaced it with the iPod Classic 80GB for US$ 249 !!!

By the way, its not that I cannot afford an iphone, but I want to get something for my $$$
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TBH I am with you on this. I normally upgrade every other generation. I currently have a 6 Plus and there's nothing in the rumours which will justify upgrading to iPhone 7.

Apple may well end up dropping prices, but they won't do that until they have to in order to stimulate sales; in the meantime they have rather healthy profit margins to maintain.
 
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