iPhone 7 Display Photos Show Reversed Orientation, Usual Home Button Cutout

[CarlJ]

I doubt I am in the minority, for a few reasons:
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Second, even though I use my camera daily, I never use it for more than like 3 seconds, 5 seconds tops. Anything longer turns into creepy. However, even listening to one or two song per day already means I use headphones 100x longer.

As another data point, I use the camera whenever the occasion arises, which is somewhere between every couple of days, and many times a day. The one in the 6 (what I have) is basically great, though better/faster low-light performance would be helpful. On the other hand, I go for a long walk every night, and use headphones pretty much the entire time, for podcasts, audiobooks or music, so an hour or so a day. Not the stock headphones, Etymotics with custom molded earpieces. I'm waiting to pass judgement on how the new iPhone deals with headphones until Apple lays their cards on the table and explains their reasoning - maybe I'll like it, maybe I won't.

 

[joeblow7777]

I'm sort of not following the point of your comment. None of that changes if the 3.5mm jack is removed. People will still be able to use headphones with their iPhone, and some won't even have to buy anything new if they already are happy with the Apple headphones they include in the box since Apple is likely to put anew pair of Lightning headphones in the box.



You may not like Bluetooth audio quality as it presently exists, but you have no idea what improvements Apple is going to introduce in September. Either way, removing the 3.5mm headphone jack should not affect you significant;ly based on how you say you use the phone.

60% of the people I see at gyms are wearing headphones. I'd say at least 40% are wireless, and that number goes up every day. Maybe 20% are wired over the ear, and the rest are wired earbuds, of which well over half are white Apple buds.



Again, I don't see how the 3.5mm jack is going to affect the way anyone posting so far is currently using headphones, depending on what headphones they want to use. And in any event I don't see a significant impact.

I, like most people, use headphones that plug into a 3.5mm Jack. I carry one set of headphones/earbuds on me which over the course of the day I may plug into my phone, my tablet, my laptop, or my desktop. It's not necessarily a deal breaker, but it's certainly not an improvement if I need to carry a set of earbuds that only work with my phone, and another set for everything else, or I need to carry some adapter or dongle to simulate something so basic.

Is it the biggest inconvenience in the world? No. But I've grown accustomed to new devices making my life easier and better. Even a small inconvenience is annoying considering that I'm paying a lot of money for a better experience.

 

[DevNull0]

I think you're unusual in that regard. Most people use the camera far more than the headphones.

Personally, I use the camera on a near daily basis. The headphones get used very rarely. In the car I connect it to my car stereo over bluetooth. At home I connect it to a dock via lightning.

Another millennial flower who thinks "most people" = "ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME".

Personally, I use the headphone jack for hours a day and I use the camera on occasion when I'm in a store and need to make a note of some product.

But you just stay in your little cocoon repeating your mantra over and over "ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME". The world will get by just fine with you mentally opting out of it.

 

[Karma*Police]

I appreciate an improved camera as much as the next guy, but count me among those who use headphones more than the camera.

I don't take pictures everyday but chances are at some point during the day I will feel like listening to music or watching a YouTube video on my phone. I doubt that that I am unique in that regard. I think that many members here (and Apple as well) may be underestimating how sorely a standard headphone jack will be missed.

I think you may be overestimating your need for a headphone jack. Apple will either include lighting EarPods or an adapter with traditional EarPods.

Either way, you're not losing the ability to plug in headphones at the expense of a better camera.

 

[dmula]

What an ugly iPhone. That's it, I'm finished with Apple. I've owned every iPhone since the 3 but now I'm switching to Android after seeing this junk. /s

I could agree more. I also owned every iPhone since 5s (except 6), but time has come to say goodbye and move to far superior Android. It was a nice ride.

 

[joeblow7777]

I think you may be overestimating your need for a headphone jack. Apple will either include lighting EarPods or an adapter with traditional EarPods.

Either way, you're not losing the ability to plug in headphones at the expense of a better camera.

I understand that. Please see my comment just a couple of posts above for my explanation of why I still feel that this is a bad thing.

 

[BvizioN]

But I use headphones far more than I use the camera...

I think it's the time you buy a new headphone!

 

[oneMadRssn]

Buy or use the included adapter (if one is provided) and enjoy the best of both worlds.

In no world is using an adapter considered "best" of anything. It makes a very common usage more complicated and less ergonomic.

Imagine plugging in a very common 90-degree 3.5mm plug into the adapter, and how that will lay in your pocket. Even Apple's own Beats headphones today use a 90-degree 3.5mm plug.

And what for? It won't have inherently better sound quality. For thinness? Is that worth it?

 

[doelcm82]

In no world is using an adapter considered "best" of anything. It makes a very common usage more complicated and less ergonomic.

Imagine plugging in a very common 90-degree 3.5mm plug into the adapter, and how that will lay in your pocket. Even Apple's own Beats headphones today use a 90-degree 3.5mm plug.

And what for? It won't have inherently better sound quality. For thinness? Is that worth it?

For thinness, lightness, and improved features in headphones, I think getting rid of a single-purpose legacy port will ultimately be worth it.

 

[EricTheHalfBee]

I could agree more. I also owned every iPhone since 5s (except 6), but time has come to say goodbye and move to far superior Android. It was a nice ride.

"Superior" and "Android" is an oxymoron.

 

[Bubba Satori]

"Superior" and "Android" is an oxymoron.

Why is that?

 

[dominiongamma]

"Superior" and "Android" is an oxymoron.

Oh really? iPhone and good quality is an oxymoron

 

[alexandr]

You're thinking progress and profits. Superb. This way to the Apple board.

seriously. are they reading this? it's great stuff!

 

[BvizioN]

I doubt I am in the minority, for a few reasons:

First, the majority of the population (at least in the US) lives in cities. In cities, I see people walking or on public transit with headphones everywhere. Even in cities that don't have great public transport, people walk with headphones. I bet that the total number of people-hours spent walking or in public transit with headphones is far greater than the total number of people hours spent listening to bluetooth or in cars.

Second, even though I use my camera daily, I never use it for more than like 3 seconds, 5 seconds tops. Anything longer turns into creepy. However, even listening to one or two song per day already means I use headphones 100x longer.

I listen to the music all time, just not with wires hangin ask over me. Glad Apple is letting this technology go the same way flash went.

 

[Ianblackburn]

I agree. For a girl who runs 16 km everyday, headphones are the one feature I use the most - probably more than I use my phone for calling. Not to mention listening to music/trying to block out other people during transit.

Wow - 16 km a day is impressive! But have you tried running with Bluetooth Headphones? I use the Beats sports ones - they are the only ones that I found to be comfortable, sweat resistant and to actually stay in my ears; and it's liberating to have no cable...

 

[CarlJ]

I could agree more. I also owned every iPhone since 5s (except 6), but time has come to say goodbye and move to far superior Android. It was a nice ride.

Some folks still don't get the "/s".

 

[oneMadRssn]

For thinness, lightness, and improved features in headphones, I think getting rid of a single-purpose legacy port will ultimately be worth it.

First, it's not single purpose. It's used for right channel, left channel, mic, play, pause, volume up, volume down, answer call, hang up call, next track, previous track, etc. Some accessories use it for an IR blaster. Some podcast makers plug high quality mics into it to record interviews. Credit card swippers use it.

Second, what about it is "legacy" exactly? According to this article recently, 3.5mm headphones still represent 83% of unit sales last month. That means 83% of people who bought new headphones in June will be disappointed by Apple's move. And probably more from every month before that. That is a large pool of potential buyers that Apple would be alienating.

Third, in total, the bluetooth or lightning headphones plus an iphone will probably weigh more than 3.5mm headphones plus an iphone. Extra battery, extra circuitry, extra amp, etc. Lots of redundant components in the supposedly "improved" system. In sum it will weigh more, so lightness is not true.

Fourth, no one wants more thinness.

Fifth, we'll see what "improved features" Apple proposes, but I expect it will be mostly marketing fluffery. In terms of audio, there is nothing Apple can show that isn't already being done with 3.5mm headphones as well.

 

[CarlJ]

I think it's the time you buy a new headphone!

Everyone has different use cases. Having substantially better headphones might still not afford him more opportunity to use them.

 

[CarlJ]

First, it's not single purpose. It's used for right channel, left channel, mic, play, pause, volume up, volume down, answer call, hang up call, next track, previous track, etc. Some accessories use it for an IR blaster. Some podcast makers plug high quality mics into it to record interviews. Credit card swippers use it.

Second, what about it is "legacy" exactly? According to this article recently, 3.5mm headphones still represent 83% of unit sales last month. That means 83% of people who bought new headphones in June will be disappointed by Apple's move. And probably more from every month before that. That is a large pool of potential buyers that Apple would be alienating.

I get where you're going, but both of these arguments could be applied similarly to when Apple moved from serial/parallel ports to USB ports. Everyone complained at first, and there was plenty of scrambling to make things work. But I don't think there's anyone now who would want to give up USB ports (or virtual on-screen keyboards), for what were once industry standards before them. Apple has a track record of dragging the tech world, kicking and screaming, into a better future. I'm willing to give them some leeway because of this, and see what they have to offer.

 

[canadianreader]

Bye.

You'll be back in Sep 2017

 

[SockRolid]

What an ugly iPhone. That's it, I'm finished with Apple. I've owned every iPhone since the 3 but now I'm switching to Android after seeing this junk. /s

Perfect, concise parody of a "concern troll." LOL.

 

[smacrumon]

Perfect, concise parody of a "concern troll." LOL.

The user is being accurate. It's Apple's most unresolved design to date. 2017 fingers crossed, otherwise it's bye bye and not hello.

 

[oneMadRssn]

I get where you're going, but both of these arguments could be applied similarly to when Apple moved from serial/parallel ports to USB ports. Everyone complained at first, and there was plenty of scrambling to make things work. But I don't think there's anyone now who would want to give up USB ports (or virtual on-screen keyboards), for what were once industry standards before them. Apple has a track record of dragging the tech world, kicking and screaming, into a better future. I'm willing to give them some leeway because of this, and see what they have to offer.

Serial ports, floppy disks, cd-roms, etc, none of these had 80%+ market share at the time Apple got rid of them, all of them had a serious limitation, and there was a replacement ready to go and affordable at that time. None of those factors is true here.

For example, serial ports had serious driver and bandwidth issues, USB was ready, available, and cheap, and serial ports were already on the decline. At the time Apple got rid of floppy disks, carrying around 1.5MB was laughable there was a plethora of replacements. Before Apple got rid of CD drives, iTunes digital sales of music and movies was close to overtaking physical media.

3.5mm has no inherent limitation, there is no adequate replacement that isn't way more cumbersome, and all the replacements cost a lot more anyway.

 

[Karma*Police]

I understand that. Please see my comment just a couple of posts above for my explanation of why I still feel that this is a bad thing.

Yes, and with an adapter, you'll be able to plug your headphone into any device; lightning and 3.5.

 

[Braderunner]

I think you're unusual in that regard. Most people use the camera far more than the headphones.

Personally, I use the camera on a near daily basis. The headphones get used very rarely. In the car I connect it to my car stereo over bluetooth. At home I connect it to a dock via lightning.

The headphones that came with the iPhone get connected a few times a month to my computer at work, or to my Wii U gamepad. A few times a year I'll connect the headphones to my iPhone when I'm taking a long phone call.

I can't remember the last time that I used headphones. But, my car doesn't have Bluetooth, so I connect my phone to my car stereo with an auxiliary cable plugged into the headphone jack. Every day. Several times a day. Sooo...I don't think regular use of the headphone jack is unusual.