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Thank you.
The only problem with Bluetooth headphones - at least for me - is that I do not get the same sound quality as I'd get from wired ones. I briefly used Jaybirds, but always keep on coming back to my good old Bose SoundSport (wired). Maybe its in my head, but I can't help noticing that, albeit minor, difference in the sound quality.
So... You didn't read the comment I referred to, because I already explained why I'm less than enthusiastic about paying $1000 for a device and it being less convenient than what I'm using now (even if the adapter is free, which it might not be). Would it be cool if I needed an extra peripheral to make a phone call or send a text?
I know it's not a huge deal, but I want my new devices to be more usable and convenient than my current ones, not less.
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You remind me of my kids when they were younger and thought "I know you are, but what am I" was a good comeback.
Free enterprise and free will-great concepts. It's great that you don't have to be part of the Apple ecosystem if you don't want to. Many millions don't. On the other hand, by the end of this Christmas season, somewhere around 60 or 70 million people will have loved the new iPhone enough to buy it. After a full year, close to 200 million people around the world will have done so.
The nice thing is we're talking about consumer electronics. Not a religion or marriage.
If you have loyalty to any company you buy toys from you're a fool. If the 2016 iPhone is a dud, buy an android. It doesn't make you a lifelong member of the android religion. If the 2017 iPhone is better, buy one in 2017.
Owning a cell phone does not make you a member of an exclusive cult.
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I use SoundSports as well. The sound quality is truly amazing for the price and I think if everyone tried them, there would be nobody left here suggesting wireless. The sound is so crisp and nuanced. In songs I listened to 100's of times a few years ago, I hear a lot of detail I never noticed before (same audio file played on the same phone). Not to mention, they are extremely comfortable, they don't come out when running, and they are very light, and they handle sweat well. The open design also lets you hear everything around you as if you weren't wearing headphones (which is great for outdoor activity).
I have Backbeat Go 2 bluetooth headphones and I've tried some $200 pair of Jaybirds, both sound flat and muffled after using the SoundSport.
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Very true. That's kind of what Macrumors can be like on here, with others "Who can make a more clever comment" or "Get the last word in."
I especially love the Android comments. They make me laugh. And this is coming from an Apple Fan.
Sorry when I have to get a device replaced under apple care I want a new one not a refurbished one.? And I've seen people have to replace their phones multiple times. Quality control is down.
It's not like they are completely taking the option for headphones away. Those who I have seen that use headphones with their phones are the stock apple ones that are included or wireless headphones.
How is using a camera for more than 5 seconds creepy? You are a very strange fellow.
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Anything that is meant for society to consume is better than Ghostbusters.
Galaxy s7 and s7 edge outsold iPhone 6s and 6s+ in the US.
Looking at next month's iPhone rumors and the galaxy s8 rumors (4k AMOLED screen for starters), the next generation will be even more in the Galaxy's favor.
You're forgetting that Apple has a very rich and very engrossing ecosystem. You can't just simply jump ship for an Android device as easily as you make it out to be.
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I have owned iPhones since 2008. I have only had to replace one and that was due to a very small crack it received when I dropped it on concrete.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with refurbished devices. In fact, in many ways, they are better to own due to the in depth quality control and rigorous testing they do on them.
Didn't the 6s come out like a year ago, though? Not really a fair comparison.
You're kidding, right? Serial ports, parallel ports, and floppy disk drives had 100% market share when Apple got rid of them. And describing USB as "a replacement ready to go" is hardly accurate - there were very few USB accessories available at the time. There was a bit of a gold rush as every peripheral/accessory manufacturer scrambled to fill the void.
Apple's switch to USB generated huge outcries of, "Are you nuts, Apple? Why would you get rid of these industry-standard ports that everyone needs for all their current devices? Now we'll all have to buy horrible adapters to use the devices we need! Plus there are no USB equivalents for many of these devices we need! And the few that do exist are all too expensive! This will never work! How could Apple be so stupid? Apple is doomed!!!1!" Sound familiar?
I don't know if what Apple does on the next iPhone regarding headphones and the 3.5mm jack will work out well, or not. But, like I said, they have a proven track record of dragging the tech community, kicking and screaming, into a better future, so I'll wait to hear their whole explanation before passing judgement.
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Please provide a source for this. And don't link to that Kantar study that provided percentages without giving any actual numbers. If they can't give numbers then they're just making stuff up (probably by taking a survey and extrapolating from that).
Let's say (for arguments sake) they are right. So a brand-new S7 in their launch quarter with pent-up demand from 2 previous lame upgrades (S5/6) "slightly" outsold the iPhone 6S that was released 9 months previously. Wow, that's SO impressive.
iPhone sales over an entire year (from model introduction to the next model) absolutely CRUSH Samsung Galaxy S sales by at least 2x (more like 3x). But it's hard to tell since Samsung has stopped reporting numbers. For good reason.
A cutout for the home button is still required even if they use force touch due to the fact that Touch ID functions correctly longer with sapphire vs. glass.
It depends on what it is pointed at.
EDIT: Example, if I have it is pointed at my wife for an extended period of time, it is probably okay, someone else's wife, probably creepy.
Yes. The 6s has been on the market longer than the galaxy s7, but the s7 has already sold more units. It's not really fair, but it's not fair in Apple's favour, and Apple still lost the current generation.
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That Kantar study is cited all over the internet. If major media outlets accept it, it must have some merit and you can't reject it just because you don't like it.
I was talking specifically s7 vs 6s, but there's a lot of info on samsung in total vs apple in total. Even if you reject the Kantar study, globally, Samsung beat Apple by 100 million phones in 2015.
This^ Apple is not forcing anyone to purchase their iPhones. And in the event of the Jack being deleted, at least their will be a bridge to still use your current wired headphones with an adapter. It's not the most convenient idea, but it still allows the user to have their preference.
Otherwise, for those who have vigorously complained, they seem to be leaving and so be it. Their are other manufacturers that still offer the 3.5 Jack.
So, you've owned 2 generations. There is a total of 9.
It has been both a pleasure and privilege to own every iPhone, and I am not going anywhere. Headphone jack or not!
I think Apple is continuing to optimize the assembly process in an attempt to maintain margins while selling the phone at a lower price. This would certainly be the generation to do that level of optimization. Maybe there is some assembly reason to put that connector at the bottom of the phone instead of at the top. There is more room now at the bottom due to jack being removed.
Dropping $100 off the price could be the killer feature of this generation. Since the SE is $250 cheaper than the 6s right now, there seems to be room for a price reduction.
Dropping $100 off the price could be the killer feature of this generation. Since the SE is $250 cheaper than the 6s right now, there seems to be room for a price reduction.
I read it and my response is the same... I just didn't want to tap out a lengthy response while walking.
There are already multiple headphone standards. If you spent a $1,000 for a good pair of headphones, you'll get a 1/4" plug with a 3.5 adapter so you'll get less convenience for higher sound quality... I've not once heard a single complaint about that.
Buying a $1,000 iphone and getting a lightning to 3.5 is the same. Youll get less convenience but a boost in camera capability, battery life, additional speaker or whatever benefits Apple has planned.
It's a smart and thoughtful approach to product design... Why have a headphone jack when the port right next to it goes unused 95% of the day and wireless is quickly becoming the norm? That space could be used for a number of things that will benefit the vast majority of users on a daily basis as opposed to the slight inconvenience users may face once in a blue moon from not having a 3.5 jack.