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iPhone 7 - Don't cry about your missing AUX Input
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Why is it so hard for pro aux removal people that you can already have EVERY perceivable benefit of not having headphone jack? Can't you have not getting cables getting snagged and yanked? Don't you have the benefit of not having device on you?
So exactly what benefit are YOU receiving when it is removed?
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Lol your rebuttal makes absolutely no sense. Million were caught when the analogue port was pulled, sure. However hundreds of millions were not caught. So relatively speaking only a minority where caught.
Wired headphone users are not a minority. 83% of headphones sold are wired. Those who don't purchase any are most likely using the wired ones that comes with the phone.
I can safely guess that 85% of people use wired earphones more than their Bluetooth earphones...if they even have any.
You AUX jack lovers annoy me. You hold back change and progression with your whinging. You pipe up about how Apple will fail because the precious AUX input has been removed.
Yes because advancing wireless technology and getting rid of long, tangly cables is a bad thing
Why do you even buy Apple when you know this is what they do? They move the goalposts. People moan. Then people shut up when they realise why it has been done.
In September we will find out why and it will be awesome.
How is Bluetooth advanced? I absolutely dislike Bluetooth earbuds.
Just another device that you have to remember to keep charged and even more radio pollution right next to your head. I really don't want this.
There is no reason to abandon AUX because even the Lightning port doesn't offer any upsides. Yes, it is digital but music will have to be converted to analogue before it reaches your ears anyways.
Also you can't even listen and charge at the same time, especially inconvenient for older cars that only have an Aux input.
There is no benefit and that's what devalues their argument and what devalues an upgrade.
It's also why I think the leaks are wrong and why Apple will leave the headphone jack in-place until such time as there are enough Lightning headphones out there and a compelling reason for consumers to want to make the switch. They're one of the three biggest companies in the world with billions in revenue and millions of shareholders, this is just a stupid business decision and I don't see them making it.
BJ
The leaks are not going to be wrong I don't see why they would be and I think Apple is going to realized that removing it was a big mistake.
If the leaks are correct, then my suspicion would be that Apple is removing the jack to appease Jimmy Iovine who has led Tim Cook astray before and would be doing it again. If you recall his nervous keynote moment he talked about sound quality. So methinks Apple would roll him back out to introduce some iTunes HD format where we can have the privalege of paying $1.99 for HD versions of songs that only a Lightning headphone can decode and present us with a breakthrough listening experience, make the Beats acquisition appear to be a smart move again, as if the disaster of Apple Music wasn't enough bad press.
As usual, just a ploy by record industry types to get us to buy Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band again, as if vinyl, 8-track, picture disc, thick vinyl, cassette, mini disc, CD, remastered CD, and iTunes wasn't enough.
BJ
It means that we get something that might be more beneficial to us in that space.
The headphone jack takes up a HUGE amount of space compared to everything else and is rarely used by myself.
The removal of the headphone jack is imminent, weather Apple does it this year or next it WILL come off.
There is nothing they can offer in the minimal space occupied by the headphone jack that will offset the loss of a universally standard connector that has no technical reason to be superseded. Who wouldn't take a phone that is larger by the amount of space of the headphone jack in order to keep it over one imperceptibly smaller but otherwise identical without it?
While accurate, unfortunately it's a subjective opinion as to whether the jack can be replaced with something more important to you than the headphone jack. Anyone who says it can't be replaced with anything else is not only engaging in hyperbole but expressing an opinion only. According to the survey linked below, most people don't see the headphone jack as something they can't live without. I suspect that as wireless improves, drops in price, and becomes the norm, that more and more people will feel this way., leaving wired headphones on a mobile device to a minority share of users.
http://www.macnn.com/articles/16/01...o.ask.apple.shoppers.what.they.thought.131986
Can't remember the last time I've used the 3.5mm. My Car, Home Audio, and Beats headphones are all bluetooth. Wireless is the future. As was said above, it gives us something more beneficial in that space and I'm all for it!
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How about the fact that they can switch around the internals. Such as connectors for the display being on the bottom where the jack was, instead of the top, to make room for a bigger camera sensor?
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How about the fact that they can switch around the internals. Such as connectors for the display being on the bottom where the jack was, instead of the top, to make room for a bigger camera sensor?
As I said, do whatever you can imagine to use that space, then imagine a phone just enough larger than that to also include a headphone jack. They are otherwise identical except the one with the 3.5mm jack is a fraction larger. Which one would most consumers choose?
You AUX jack lovers annoy me. You hold back change and progression with your whinging. You pipe up about how Apple will fail because the precious AUX input has been removed.
Yes because advancing wireless technology and getting rid of long, tangly cables is a bad thing
Why do you even buy Apple when you know this is what they do? They move the goalposts. People moan. Then people shut up when they realise why it has been done.
In September we will find out why and it will be awesome.
There is not ONE thing about this that is pro customer. Not one. What in the world is revolutionary about eliminating flexibility? About eliminating support for one of the most universal standards on this planet?
Moving the goalposts... what a load of BS
We don't need a phone slightly larger than the current plus model. If anything it needs smaller bezels, but I'm fine with the way it is for now.
Fortunately as every other manufacturer has already proven, it's entirely possible to do this, while retaining the 3.5mm jack.
I recently rented a car that was an older model without a USB port, or BT. Since I only use BT, I didn't have a 3.5mm male-to-male cable to connect into the car's head unit. So I stopped at a convenience store thinking I could pick up a cheap one for the trip, but they didn't have any -- didn't seem like they carried any either. But, there was a rack of inexpensive Lightning accessories, and other USB car charging accessories. So I went without on that trip. I'm certainly not going to carry around an extra cable, just in case I might need it somewhere. And if I did do that, I'd likely carry around my $20 BT dongle instead, so I could continue to benefit from using my iPhone without wires. I've actually done that on planes entertainment systems in the past, and it's a great way to avoid stringing cables out all over the cramped coach seats. Nothing worse than having to juggle and/or unplug headphones and power to let another passenger out.
So I agree that if the headphone jack space can be used for something better, then I'm all for it. There's absolutely no reason to make the phone bigger, and therefore heavier, in order to accommodate a single function port, in a device that is only going to get smaller and lighter as time goes on. That said, I don't necessarily want to see Apple arbitrarily remove the headphone jack before it's necessary. Even if there's an issue with space on the 4.7" iPhone, there's no practical reason to remove it on the 5.5" models. And I wonder if the so-called "Pro" model might retain the headphone jack to give customers a flagship option during the transition period. Though, it's hard to imagine they would, given a focus on a potential new philosophy of wireless connectivity. And I imagine it's only a matter of time before it drops off the iPads and Macs too, but I would expect that would happen only after USB-C becomes a more widely adopted standard on other mobile devices, for which USB-C headphones become a more common option.
I am not saying it will for sure, but I am saying the headphone jack is unnecessary to me and I feel confident Apple would put that space to good use.
Minimal?
The amount of space it takes up is fairly significant when compared to the other things in your iPhone.
Precisely. Look at Note 5 or 7 - smaller while having a larger screen and bigger battery. And, a 3.5mm jack.
It's not a huge amount of space and if its removal adds another 15 minutes of battery life or a slightly better camera, so what, it means nothing to the typical user. And by 'typical user', I don't mean gearheads like us. I'm talking about the 10's of millions of Average Joe's out there who save every penny to be able to buy a new iPhone every two years. Those people aren't going to get an iPhone 7 for $300 if it means they have to get a new pair of headphones for $300 too.
As for me, I have more money than God, this is more a matter of principle and a matter of my stock portfolio more than anything else. I use Bose QC 25's (detachable cord will be converted to Lightning by Bose) and Apple's earbuds (Lightning will be packed-in) so I'm not affected physically, but I don't like Apple's approach which disappoints me and I need to move some stock and that's a pain.
BJ
Minimal?
The amount of space it takes up is fairly significant when compared to the other things in your iPhone.
This is where we've come to folks. The smartphone market is so boring and saturated that we have been convinced that removing a critical component that has no technological need to be replaced and takes up all of this space
is for the benefit of the consumer.
Soon they'll convince us we no longer need a screen 'because Siri.'
Lol... No one was complaining when they opted for the 3.5 instead of the 2.5, so why don't we just wait and see what Apple had in its next phone first? Mark my words, someday people will be asking why does companies still putting 3.5 mm on a phone and it's so 2015
This is where we've come to folks. The smartphone market is so boring and saturated that we have been convinced that removing a critical component that has no technological need to be replaced and takes up all of this space is for the benefit of the consumer.
It's going to be for a new camera. Big deal. Like my daughter doesn't take enough selfies that she needs them to be 2x the file size too, kills me on data overages each month, can't imagine what the future bills will look like.
Forgetting your luxury $300 headphone segment for a moment, the vast majority of headphones sold in the world are cheap, below $20, and no maker of inexpensive headphones is going to want to pay a MFi licensing fee to Apple which currently sits at $4.
Either Apple has a more compelling product being released next month or they are not dropping the headphone jack.
BJ
We don’t know exactly why Apple is doing it but I can guarantee it’s not just to piss people off and sell adaptors as if they need the aggravation of this very predictable reaction.
I get the valid points about past and present usage. Doesn’t change the fact that they are going to remove it. I’d be disappointed in Apple if they brought it back later. Like I said, this negative reaction is very predictable so they must have a valid and beneficial reason to do it. Although, sometimes Apple just does things to force people to upgrade their technology and experience in general. Apple doesn't exist to increase the longevity of old standards and in fact are constantly pushing new ones. Apple’s refusal to support Flash in their idevices is making the world a better place for everybody despite the initial outcry from people who couldn’t play their web based bank draining freemium games.
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Has it ever crossed your mind that the reason Apple might be doing something is to make more money off of you? Not to help you, to benefit you, but because they see the $$ signs? You know, what a corporation should be doing?
Doesn't make it good for you or me. Just good for them, if it works. More revenue from licensing, more walled garden with headphones that will only work with lightning port, more revenue from adapters, ability to lock you out through DRM, etc, etc.