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I definitely won't turn down any improvements.But there seems to be an undercurrent that unless apple releases hardware that is deemed by some to be behind the times, it's because they are greedy and penny pinching. IMO apple seems to release hardware when they deem it is ready; not because a competitor might include a better speced component.
Is that what you really meant to say?
You are wrong. HTC is not making HTC One M7 to sell on the market today. There MIGHT be some left over retail units, but that does not mean that the phone is on sale in the US market today. Stop playing word games with me and find a sub 5 inch phone that is being produced and sold in the US market today that has a 1080p screen. Where is that unicorn?
You really are grasping at straws if you believe the difference between 750P and 720P is even worth talking about
That's not at all what the person you quoted said...
Who is grasping at straws now? I would say the person tossing out replies that have nothing to do with what they are quoting. *hint: it's you
Exactly.
And that's why 1440p is pointless other than to "pad" the spec sheet on a smartphone.
At typical viewing distance there won't be much, if any, perceivable difference unless you moved the screen much closer to your face. Not worth the battery cost just to have it look better holding it 4" away from your face.
When a lot of people are comparing a 6+/6s+ 1080p screen to a 1440p Android phone, the difference they are seeing is likely the difference between LCD and AMOLED (at normal viewing distance.) The contrast, the colours, and the fact blacks are actually black(which is a big contributer to making it look sharper.) Making them believe it's the resolution difference. Plus they are comparing knowing one is higher res, which can give a placebo effect, choosing the 1440 because they know it's "higher". I bet if they had two phones both the same screen tech (both LCD or both AMOLED) one 1080 and one 1440 presented to them, covered up and no way to tell which phones they were and viewed at normal viewing distance. They probably wouldn't know which was 1080 or 1440 without having to move in much closer.
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What the heck are you typing about. I am asking for a sub 5 inch phone in production today and sold in the US that has a 1080p screen. Android fans attack the 6s for its 750p screen and none of the Android sub 5 inch phones sold in the US today have a 1080p screen. The closest one is the Z5C with 720p screen. So where is that 1080p screen sub 5 inch Android phone?
I agree. My 6S plus is a big phone I don't need to hold it right up to my face. I usually hold it out in front of me with my arms extended (but not all the way).
By that logic you could say apple has been dropping prices every year, since with every iphone you get better hardware for the same money.
Can you list me the innovative things Apple did since the 5S?I will compare them to the Android manufacturers and we will see who is right
You refuse to accept the fact that the OLED displays to be used on the 2018 iPhones are made primarily by LG and Samsung and they Are ALREADY commencing production by end of 2016.You really believe this Samsung screen will be any different from the panel they used on the S7 for nearly 2 years now?LOLI definitely won't turn down any improvements.
i7guy keeps bringing up record sales as an free pass for Apple to intentionally stay behind the competition using excuses like "beta hardware" and cash balances.I am merely expanding the logic here in my earlier post.Why does Apple need to innovate at all when they have record sales and 200B cash?Lets just stick with 750P till 2030
The point of my post was this.The iPhone 6s is a flagship product.The androids in the 4.7 product category are all 720P BECAUSE they are all supposed to be midrange.The iPhone 6s has a barely better resolution than any mid range android.
The reason Android fans bring up the resolution is because only mid-low range products use 720P
For the 1000th time it's NOT pointless.4K and 2K screens have a great utility in VR headsets where the difference between 1080 and 1440 would be night and day.
I would love hearing your comments on this matter when Apple (inevitably) moves to 1440P on their iPhones.You would be singing a completely different tune then
Not trying to be technical here but the Vertu Signature Touch phone is a 1080P 4.7 inch flagship
You can do your own analysis and get back to me. I'll start with two items: Touch ID and 64 bit. I expect to have a huge definitional issue about innovation vs invention vs throwing @@@@ against the wall disguised as innovation; which is what a few here believe the s7 is; innovation reincarnated (minus 3D Touch). To each their own.
And what's with conflating a phone that costs $9k in this mix? Grasp at straws much?
As far as the 6s display, I've already said my piece about it and my opinion still stands.
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Sounds like the assumption there as to why 720P screens are used in most of the 4.x inch devices might be just that, an assumption, and not quite the reality.
Firstly Touch ID is not Apple Innovation.The Motorola Atrix had a fingerprint scanner two years prior.
Some Examples of Android Manufacturer's innnovation out of the top of my head at the recent MWC 2016
1)Modular design of the LG G5 incl;uding clipping batteries, high-end audio kit and digital camera packs
2)Samsung's game changing Gear VR headset which allows you to plug in the S7
3)The Edge curved Screen which is a counterpoint for Apple's 3D Touch
4)Xperia Ear:you can control your phone without even needing to look at it
Certainly more than making a phone thinner and removing antenna lines I can assure you
Reality check.720P is used by Android OEMs on the 4.7 form factor because they are NOT flagship devices but mid range once.Hence why the Z5C doesnt have the top of the line processor.
Snapdragon 810? Top of the line at the time. And the Atrix fingerprint scanner was awful. It was on the top oth the phone, and it had th swipe gesture. Apple perfected it, and there was nothing like it for another 1 and a half years.
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Or, as many have suggested, it simply makes more sense to use such a screen on a device that is of a smaller size.
Okay the is is the game to be played. None of what you mention is really worthy of innovation if touch id is not worthy of being called innovation. Because I said so and its my post and my opinion and I'm right and everyone else is wrong. End of story.
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You really seem to never actually read anything you reply to. The majority of my post you quoted was about how you can't see the difference unless you move it close to you face. So yes, VR is the only reason why QHD matters when using your phone closer than normal viewing distances.
But Apple isn't doing VR yet, therefore no reason to waste battery on a screen that only has the benefit of better VR. (Phone close to you face)
Apple has said on a few occasions why they haven't moved to AMOLED yet. They haven't believed the tech to be where they would like it to be yet. Which is why they are holding out until 2018. They have patents and purchased a company that has been working on microLED. Which, when ready could trump AMOLED. They will move to QHD levels of resolution when it has a purpose. Not because it looks nice on the spec sheet.
1: The LG 5 modular stuff is not innovation. It's a glorified removable battery. Are you going to carry a bag around with your phone to bring your extra battery, bulky camera module and an audio module everywhere you go? A lot of people complain about tiny dongles, no one is going to purchase and carry ridiculous modules around. Expect no other phone manufacturer to adopt this ever.
2: Samsung didn't create VR. So to go by your logic, not Samsung's innovation. Besides it's just a plastic headset that is useless without sliding your phone into it. A plastic phone holder is innovation now? Powered by Oculus, which isn't even Samsung's thing. Also Nintendo made a headset in the 80's.
3: The edge screen is neat but not really innovation either. It's been out for two generations now and no one else has said "wow such innovation! Let's do this too!". It's cool to have something that differentiates their phone, but hardly innovation.
4: Xperia Ear. Not really any different than wearing Bluetooth headphones and asking Siri or OK Google for info. Nothing innovative there.
We disagree on some things, and I agree with Radon87000 on some things, but I agree with you here, Lagwagon.
Overall Apple puts a decent balance of hardware upgrades into each iteration, and there are arguments to be made for things they delay on (except maybe ram and base storage).
That said, my personal preference going forwards would be a resolution bump to the 4.7". The 6+ resolution in my mind strikes the right balance for sharpness vs performance/battery (except I wish UI rendered at the native panel resolution).
You can get by with 326 ppi for sure, but to my eye, there is still perceivable added visual appeal in the higher res panels, that to me is at least as valuable an improvement to overall experience as the rumoured shaving of half a mm from an already very thin body.
To me, the "perfect" scenario would be if they shifted the 2x retina scaling to 3x, and all panels were native to that multiplier (unlike the 6+). That's my "dream"
We disagree on some things, and I agree with Radon87000 on some things, but I agree with you here, Lagwagon.
Overall Apple puts a decent balance of hardware upgrades into each iteration, and there are arguments to be made for things they delay on (except maybe ram and base storage).
That said, my personal preference going forwards would be a resolution bump to the 4.7". The 6+ resolution in my mind strikes the right balance for sharpness vs performance/battery (except I wish UI rendered at the native panel resolution).
You can get by with 326 ppi for sure, but to my eye, there is still perceivable added visual appeal in the higher res panels, that to me is at least as valuable an improvement to overall experience as the rumoured shaving of half a mm from an already very thin body.
To me, the "perfect" scenario would be if they shifted the 2x retina scaling to 3x, and all panels were native to that multiplier (unlike the 6+). That's my "dream"
I agree the 4.7" iPhone should be moved to 1080p, and most likely will be this fall (redesign years are typically when Apple makes screen quality changes.) Beyond that though is definitely not needed for a 4.7" screen. It just costs more battery for no real gain on something that small.
To be fair the rumoured .5-1mm shaving for this year is due to a thinner display panel. If true that does not effect the rear casing thickness or how much battery can fit inside the rear casing.
My fingers are crossed. Ultimately I'm hoping I won't need to upgrade before 7S comes out anyway, but like you said, this is the year they do screen upgrades according to previous cycles.
As for thinness, I doubt they would do anything to reduce battery life, but it'd still be nice to me if shrinking components could go towards extra battery, getting the 4.7 closer to the 5.5 battery life. Someday at least...
No, I'm simply just using the same logic he uses over and over to counter his claims.
Ruh Roh....
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/02/apple-rumored-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017
If, and that's a big IF this is true, it gives me little hope that this year's model(s) will have any change in screen resolutions. Looking back over the history of the iPhone and how/when changes occur, I cannot see them changing the LCD screens this year only to come back and make another change in 2017.
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/02/apple-rumored-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017
If, and that's a big IF this is true, it gives me little hope that this year's model(s) will have any change in screen resolutions. Looking back over the history of the iPhone and how/when changes occur, I cannot see them changing the LCD screens this year only to come back and make another change in 2017.
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