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-3D touch too bad Sammy couldn't engineer it.
- Bloomberg does the article have the actual ytd numbers for comparison? Writing an opinion piece is easy. Saying the actual numbers at the end of the quarter is tough.
- justin beiber he's laughing all the way to the bank
- iPhone design is iconic your flat out wrong about being able to tell a generic android phone vs iPhone at a distance.
- the 200b is an insurance policy for them to weather any storm

1)So apparently a company like Huawei can "engineer" 3D touch but Samsung,a decade established chip manufacturer cannot.Got it

2)Didn't Tim Cook announce declining sales?the article is based on that.

3)Still doesn't change his music is complete crap

4)Maybe YOU cannot but I can tell a Samsung,HTC from far away

5)Well they definitely are gonna need it considering the negative growth
Or a rip off of the iPod touch 5th generation released in 2012.
The iPhone 6 ripoff of the HTC M7 and M8!

I agree.The iPhone 6 is a rip off the HTC M7

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Than the iPod touch

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1)So apparently a company like Huawei can "engineer" 3D touch but Samsung,a decade established chip manufacturer cannot.Got it

2)Didn't Tim Cook announce declining sales?the article is based on that.

3)Still doesn't change his music is complete crap

4)Maybe YOU cannot but I can tell a Samsung,HTC from far away

5)Well they definitely are gonna need it considering the negative growth



I agree.The iPhone 6 is a rip off the HTC M7

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Than the iPod touch

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Tim Cook did not announce declining sales. Sales were up last quarter. What he said is that he predicts a dip in sales next quarter. However we haven't had the sales figures for next quarter yet. So at the moment there is no negative growth. Even your precious Samsung are predicting a drop in sales for the next quarter.
 
I'm sorry but I call bullcrap on this one.
I have the S6 as well which I bought on release day and I have to say that other than being able to set display modes and the deeper blacks, I can't say it is a night and day difference from its 2k screen to my 6S+ 1080p screen. While punchy and contrasty screens looks more catchy to the eyes, I prefer realistic colours and tones and the only way you get that on the S6 is by turning on Basic screen mode and most people use Photo or Adaptive instead cause Basic makes the screen look a bit dull!
Also, Retina was never class leading. The Japanese phones that we never got here already had 720p and 1080p phones in the late 2000s. We just never got them here as the bands weren't fully compatible. They were at war to get high res screens before it became mainstream. Panasonic, Sharp, Sony, Toshiba, and etc all had phones that were 1080p trying to promote their TVs way back before it became mainstream.

thats interesting if true, can you name one of the high res phones that existed before the iphone 4? 6s at 326@ is unaccepable in 2016, the pixels and fuzziness is very obvious compared to higher res
 
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1)So apparently a company like Huawei can "engineer" 3D touch but Samsung,a decade established chip manufacturer cannot.Got it

2)Didn't Tim Cook announce declining sales?the article is based on that.

3)Still doesn't change his music is complete crap

4)Maybe YOU cannot but I can tell a Samsung,HTC from far away

5)Well they definitely are gonna need it considering the negative growth



I agree.The iPhone 6 is a rip off the HTC M7

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Than the iPod touch

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Looks like your making the case of how those other manufacturers copied Apple. And, how Samsung couldn't engineer force touch in their latest model.

Justin bieber as I said is laughing to the bank. As Apple will be the next fiscal quarter, they'll only break a smaller record.

Iphone still looks iconic after all these generations.
 
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thats interesting if true, can you name one of the high res phones that existed before the iphone 4? 6s at 326@ is unaccepable in 2016, the pixels and fuzziness is very obvious compared to higher res

Can you name a sub 5 inch flagship phone sold in the US market today that has more than 750p screen resolution?
 
yup, the none apple product featured in the photo above on this page

Give me a name of a sub 5 inch flagship CURRENTLY on sale in the US market that has a higher than 750p resolution? The M7 HTC ONE is not on sale today. I want a name, not a snide remark!!

The only one CURRENTLY on sale is the Z5C and it is 720p.
 
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1)So apparently a company like Huawei can "engineer" 3D touch but Samsung,a decade established chip manufacturer cannot.Got it

2)Didn't Tim Cook announce declining sales?the article is based on that.

3)Still doesn't change his music is complete crap

4)Maybe YOU cannot but I can tell a Samsung,HTC from far away

5)Well they definitely are gonna need it considering the negative growth



I agree.The iPhone 6 is a rip off the HTC M7

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Than the iPod touch

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How does it look more alike the M7 than apple's own iPod touch? The iPod touch and iPhone 6 have the same edges, flat design, camera placement, speaker placement etc. HTC made a curved body with a plastic edge running around the phone whereas the iPhone is unibody aluminium. Also HTC has different speaker placement, headphone jack placement and camera placement. The only similarities really between these two are the antenna lines (which are necessary in an aluminium build) and the colour of the phones are identical...

I've read through the recent pages of this thread and you just try to defend Samsung by some reason and try to explain that Apple is not doing well and that 3D Touch hasn't caught on because others aren't copying it like they use to do with recent Apple tech.

Well here's a fact for you, 3D Touch has been out for 6 months in the iPhone. 6 months is not enough time for Samsung to reconstruct their phone in order to make their own version of it. They did a half assed job with copying Touch ID with a cheap and useless fingerprint scanner in the S5. After they released the phone, they went back to the drawing board and made a much better one and much more like apple's scanner in the S6.
It's also funny that Samsung introduced a gold colour the year after Apple did it. They also use the same marketing names as Apple, making a plus model and Apple Pay -> Samsung Pay and the list just goes on.

Apple copies too, but sometimes it seems like Samsung has an entire team who's full time job is to seek out ways to copy Apple. It's too obvious and it makes Samsung look weak.


Well this thread has definitely escalated.
 
Like I said, Apple was once a market pioneer in terms of innovation, and your examples of mp3 player (2001), smartphone (2007), and tablet (2010) reaffirm that. But I believe, these innovations have now become far and few. Large screens were already mainstream, Apple "followed", multi-window was already popular, Apple "followed", third-party keyboards were already mainstream, Apple "followed", proactive alerts were already there, Apple "followed", low-power mode had already become handy, when Apple "followed". And I still believe what I earlier said, how "better" are many of these recent adaptations, is debatable. Now, I'm not criticizing Apple in any way. My point is, from making things more mainstream once, they have come to following suit now.
I'm sorry are you seriously comparing 3rd party keyboards and such to the ipad or smartphone? Its not even in the same planet let alone stadium.
 
The M7 HTC ONE is not on sale today.

yes it is. M7 is available from many retailers still, and is even more embarassing for apple, as that had a 1080p panel in 4.7 inches years ago.


obviously most companies have moved to 5 inches, but this is not an excuse for apple to maintain a poor resolution on their sub 5 inch phones. They are losing sales because of this attempt to cut corners and save money.
 
yes it is. M7 is available from many retailers still, and is even more embarassing for apple, as that had a 1080p panel in 4.7 inches years ago.


obviously most companies have moved to 5 inches, but this is not an excuse for apple to maintain a poor resolution on their sub 5 inch phones. They are losing sales because of this attempt to cut corners and save money.
"Embarrassing"? Right. And they are losing sales by setting record sales? Right.
 
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yes it is. M7 is available from many retailers still, and is even more embarassing for apple, as that had a 1080p panel in 4.7 inches years ago.


obviously most companies have moved to 5 inches, but this is not an excuse for apple to maintain a poor resolution on their sub 5 inch phones. They are losing sales because of this attempt to cut corners and save money.
It's tough to debunk nonsense. The m7 was release over 3 years ago and while there may be left over, unsold, inventory I find it difficult to believe HTC is manufacturing that same model exactly today.
 
I'm sorry are you seriously comparing 3rd party keyboards and such to the ipad or smartphone? Its not even in the same planet let alone stadium.

Features, my friend. Apple did not introduce the first ever smartphone, Apple introduced the first most successful smartphone. Its all about features.
 
yes it is. M7 is available from many retailers still, and is even more embarassing for apple, as that had a 1080p panel in 4.7 inches years ago.


obviously most companies have moved to 5 inches, but this is not an excuse for apple to maintain a poor resolution on their sub 5 inch phones. They are losing sales because of this attempt to cut corners and save money.
I vote we keep 750P IPS LCD for the next 10 years as the display shows the truest colours out of em all.In addition THINNESS is the number one priority as 75 million customers really love sacrificing 3 hour battery life for that small MM.Not only that lets add another speaker and remove the headphone jack to further thin it up and make the battery even smaller.I mean the sales are all that matter after all.Who cares if I need to stay tethered to the wall for half a day as long as it's razor sharp thin?Apple has 200 billion cash in the bank so things are just perfect as it is
 
I'm not one of those people who says that the human eye can't see beyond 300ppi, but I'm also not one to complain about low-res displays. These phones have screens that are made up of tiny groups of lights, each one micrometres in length. On one, they might be a bit smaller, so what. If it wasn't for excess marketing, this wouldn't be a problem. Proof? Tablets and laptops. They're using about the same resolution as mainstream phones, on a way bigger display. Are people clamouring for higher resolution on them? Absolutely not.
 
I vote we keep 750P IPS LCD for the next 10 years as the display shows the truest colours out of em all.In addition THINNESS is the number one priority as 75 million customers really love sacrificing 3 hour battery life for that small MM.Not only that lets add another speaker and remove the headphone jack to further thin it up and make the battery even smaller.I mean the sales are all that matter after all.Who cares if I need to stay tethered to the wall for half a day as long as it's razor sharp thin?Apple has 200 billion cash in the bank so things are just perfect as it is
Not sure if your point, but if apples target market deems their hardware good enough for them, they have spoken with their wallets. Not everybody wants to be an apple customer. Thankfully there are alternatives.
 
I'm not one of those people who says that the human eye can't see beyond 300ppi, but I'm also not one to complain about low-res displays. These phones have screens that are made up of tiny groups of lights, each one micrometres in length. On one, they might be a bit smaller, so what. If it wasn't for excess marketing, this wouldn't be a problem. Proof? Tablets and laptops. They're using about the same resolution as mainstream phones, on a way bigger display. Are people clamouring for higher resolution on them? Absolutely not.
That's because tablets are not as close to your face as phones.
From a few feet away, not many can tell the difference between a 4k tv and a 1080p tv either!
 
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That's because tablets are not as close to your face as phones.
From a few feet away, not many can tell the difference between a 4k tv and a 1080p tv either!
But then the phones are typically smaller than tablets so holding them a bit closer balances out holding a larger tablet a bit farther, similar to how things get balanced out watching a larger TV even farther away.
 
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But then the phones are typically smaller than tablets so holding them a bit closer balances out holding a larger tablet a bit further, similar to how things get balanced out watching a larger TV even farther away.
I'm not saying anything about the 6s. I'm referring to the tablets. Anything under 5" is fine at 720p. 1080p is fine on the 6s+ but 2k would be nicer on the big screen.
 
Not sure if your point, but if apples target market deems their hardware good enough for them, they have spoken with their wallets. Not everybody wants to be an apple customer. Thankfully there are alternatives.
Which is why I said we should stick to 750P for the next 10 years and 5 hour battery life as the target market deems that's good enough.Lets not even reduce bezel size considering it just broke sales records.In fact lets not innovate at all until our sales are heavily down.As long as Apple is laughing it's way to the bank,there is zero need to improve.Yes,I am starting to see their strategy now
 
Which is why I said we should stick to 750P for the next 10 years and 5 hour battery life as the target market deems that's good enough.Lets not even reduce bezel size considering it just broke sales records.In fact lets not innovate at all until our sales are heavily down.As long as Apple is laughing it's way to the bank,there is zero need to improve.Yes,I am starting to see their strategy now
If one is not satisfied with apple products they can certainly move on. But let's not be sardonic here. Apple does innovate; and some of the others are trying to imitate the innovation.
 
If one is not satisfied with apple products they can certainly move on. But let's not be sardonic here. Apple does innovate; and some of the others are trying to imitate the innovation.

I'd personally rather just state my hope that Apple bumps up the 4.7 res to 1080.

I bought a 6 (which contributes to the sales conclusions around here that customers actively can't want anything more) and yet still I have hopes that future products might incorporate certain upgrades.

I know, it's cray cray. Please forgive me I7guy ;)
 
I'd personally rather just state my hope that Apple bumps up the 4.7 res to 1080.

I bought a 6 (which contributes to the sales conclusions around here that customers actively can't want anything more) and yet still I have hopes that future products might incorporate certain upgrades.

I know, it's cray cray. Please forgive me I7guy ;)
I definitely won't turn down any improvements.:) But there seems to be an undercurrent that unless apple releases hardware that is deemed by some to be behind the times, it's because they are greedy and penny pinching. IMO apple seems to release hardware when they deem it is ready; not because a competitor might include a better speced component.
 
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