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http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/02/apple-rumored-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017

If, and that's a big IF this is true, it gives me little hope that this year's model(s) will have any change in screen resolutions. Looking back over the history of the iPhone and how/when changes occur, I cannot see them changing the LCD screens this year only to come back and make another change in 2017.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-planning-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017.1959348/

Yep.
 
I don't think that makes a higher res display in the 7 more unlikely. It was said Apple is planning to drop the tic/toc ("S") cycle and improve every component each year if possible because of the increased competition and market saturation.
 
Okay the is is the game to be played. None of what you mention is really worthy of innovation if touch id is not worthy of being called innovation. Because I said so and its my post and my opinion and I'm right and everyone else is wrong. End of story.

Please explain how its innovation when the idea already existed and was implemented before?

You really seem to never actually read anything you reply to. The majority of my post you quoted was about how you can't see the difference unless you move it close to you face. So yes, VR is the only reason why QHD matters when using your phone closer than normal viewing distances.

But Apple isn't doing VR yet, therefore no reason to waste battery on a screen that only has the benefit of better VR. (Phone close to you face)

Apple has said on a few occasions why they haven't moved to AMOLED yet. They haven't believed the tech to be where they would like it to be yet. Which is why they are holding out until 2018. They have patents and purchased a company that has been working on microLED. Which, when ready could trump AMOLED. They will move to QHD levels of resolution when it has a purpose. Not because it looks nice on the spec sheet.

You were saying 1440P is pointless when its not.It has its own applications.Also on a 5 inch phone its still possible to discern tiny differences between 1080P and 1440P.There's a reason why all Android manufacturers moved to 1080P for standard and 1440P for flagships

Apple is gonna use OLED,specifically Samsung and LG's OLED in the next iPhones.Not MicroLED.And these are probably the same panels which are ALREADY being used on the S7 and G5.Your point for now does not stand

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/02/apple-planning-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017/

"In December, Apple contacted LG and Samsung about the potential to ramp up OLED production in time for the 2017 iPhone. However, the OLED technology would likely be limited to a higher-end iPhone like the 7 Plus or the rumored iPhone Pro due to possible supply constraints. "

^^The bolded in particular proves OLED to be the superior tech here



1: The LG 5 modular stuff is not innovation. It's a glorified removable battery. Are you going to carry a bag around with your phone to bring your extra battery, bulky camera module and an audio module everywhere you go? A lot of people complain about tiny dongles, no one is going to purchase and carry ridiculous modules around. Expect no other phone manufacturer to adopt this ever.

2: Samsung didn't create VR. So to go by your logic, not Samsung's innovation. Besides it's just a plastic headset that is useless without sliding your phone into it. A plastic phone holder is innovation now? Powered by Oculus, which isn't even Samsung's thing. Also Nintendo made a headset in the 80's.

3: The edge screen is neat but not really innovation either. It's been out for two generations now and no one else has said "wow such innovation! Let's do this too!". It's cool to have something that differentiates their phone, but hardly innovation.

4: Xperia Ear. Not really any different than wearing Bluetooth headphones and asking Siri or OK Google for info. Nothing innovative there.

It many not be innovation to you but it proves all Android manufacturers are trying to do something new and gain differentiation in their own way.You definitely may not agree with this but I find removable modules and VR compatibility and the Edge screen more innovative than removing antenna lines,making a phone thinner and removing the headphone jack to make it even thinner
 
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Please explain how its innovation when the idea already existed and was implemented before?



You were saying 1440P is pointless when its not.It has its own applications.Also on a 5 inch phone its still possible to discern tiny differences between 1080P and 1440P.There's a reason why all Android manufacturers moved to 1080P for standard and 1440P for flagships

Apple is gonna use OLED,specifically Samsung and LG's OLED in the next iPhones.Not MicroLED.And these are probably the same panels which are ALREADY being used on the S7 and G5.Your point for now does not stand

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/02/apple-planning-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017/

"In December, Apple contacted LG and Samsung about the potential to ramp up OLED production in time for the 2017 iPhone. However, the OLED technology would likely be limited to a higher-end iPhone like the 7 Plus or the rumored iPhone Pro due to possible supply constraints. "

^^The bolded in particular proves OLED to be the superior tech here





It many not be innovation to you but it proves all Android manufacturers are trying to do something new and gain differentiation in their own way.You definitely may not agree with this but I find removable modules and VR compatibility and the Edge screen more innovative than removing antenna lines,making a phone thinner and removing the headphone jack to make it even thinner
Your (still) confusing innovation and invention. When those two concepts are conflated it's not surprising to see typing such "the idea already existed". (Sic)
 
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Please explain how its innovation when the idea already existed and was implemented before?



You were saying 1440P is pointless when its not.It has its own applications.Also on a 5 inch phone its still possible to discern tiny differences between 1080P and 1440P.There's a reason why all Android manufacturers moved to 1080P for standard and 1440P for flagships

Apple is gonna use OLED,specifically Samsung and LG's OLED in the next iPhones.Not MicroLED.And these are probably the same panels which are ALREADY being used on the S7 and G5.Your point for now does not stand

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/02/apple-planning-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017/

"In December, Apple contacted LG and Samsung about the potential to ramp up OLED production in time for the 2017 iPhone. However, the OLED technology would likely be limited to a higher-end iPhone like the 7 Plus or the rumored iPhone Pro due to possible supply constraints. "

^^The bolded in particular proves OLED to be the superior tech here





It many not be innovation to you but it proves all Android manufacturers are trying to do something new and gain differentiation in their own way.You definitely may not agree with this but I find removable modules and VR compatibility and the Edge screen more innovative than removing antenna lines,making a phone thinner and removing the headphone jack to make it even thinner
I can't believe you use an iPhone. You've done nothing but slag off the iPhone. If I were you I'd get rid of my iPhone and get a Samsung phone. You'll be much happier from the sounds of things.
 
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Please explain how its innovation when the idea already existed and was implemented before?



You were saying 1440P is pointless when its not.It has its own applications.Also on a 5 inch phone its still possible to discern tiny differences between 1080P and 1440P.There's a reason why all Android manufacturers moved to 1080P for standard and 1440P for flagships

Apple is gonna use OLED,specifically Samsung and LG's OLED in the next iPhones.Not MicroLED.And these are probably the same panels which are ALREADY being used on the S7 and G5.Your point for now does not stand

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/02/apple-planning-to-debut-oled-iphone-in-2017/

"In December, Apple contacted LG and Samsung about the potential to ramp up OLED production in time for the 2017 iPhone. However, the OLED technology would likely be limited to a higher-end iPhone like the 7 Plus or the rumored iPhone Pro due to possible supply constraints. "

^^The bolded in particular proves OLED to be the superior tech here





It many not be innovation to you but it proves all Android manufacturers are trying to do something new and gain differentiation in their own way.You definitely may not agree with this but I find removable modules and VR compatibility and the Edge screen more innovative than removing antenna lines,making a phone thinner and removing the headphone jack to make it even thinner

Pointless for an iPhone to have 1440p and no use for it (VR) Android manufacturers moved to 1440p because Android phone manufacturers are notorious for jamming in specs just to say they have high numbered specs. And then look at the result. Bigger batteries that don't last as long as a smaller battery iPhone. Look at their chips as well. Octa core? Only done to say "hey look! We have 8 cores in this phone." When they aren't really any better at all than Apple's A series dual core chips. A series chips always have destroyed snapdragon and exynos in single core performance and with only two cores not usually far behind in multi core.

Apple will eventually be moving to microLED, it's just not ready yet their move to OLED is just temporary.

Funny how you dismiss anything Apple does as innovation as "someone else has done it before so it's not." but when an Android phone manufacturer does something that's already been done its "innovative". Make up your mind man. Fingerprint readers sucked so bad before Apple introduced Touch ID. They set the standard and now everyone puts in fingerprint readers in their phones. Apple designs their own chips, they were the first in mobile to design and release a 64bit SoC and now everyone uses 64bit. Soon 3D Touch will start popping up in more Android phones. Huawei had theirs "first" but it sucked and wasn't as accurate and extremely poorly implemented. Apple will once again set the standard on how pressure screens should be. Apple sets more standards than any other phone brand.

You're assuming removing the headphone jack is purely "to make it thinner" well, it's not. (the reported iPhone 7 being thinner is due to a thinner display panel, which effects nothing else) Lightning is superior when it comes to audio quality. No gimmicky module needed like the LG. Why have two ports that offer audio when one is vastly better. Removing the jack makes it easier to waterproof. Giving Apple the opportunity to have better water resistance than the s7. It opens up more space on the inside of the phone for other things. Ever notice how if you place a 3.5mm plug on the front of your screen that it ends right where the bezel ends? That's not a coincidence, it's the jack that takes up that space. With it gone, it's the first step into making an iPhone with smaller bezels, with the end game of that being removing the Home button (further shrinking bezels) and having Touch ID integrated directly in the screen. (which they are known to be working on and have patents) 3D Touch being the first step in removing the Home Button, because now you can have a screen that can sense pressure and act like a sudo physical button.

Apple makes moves that don't seem big at first but were required steps for something huge down the road.
 
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I can't believe you use an iPhone. You've done nothing but slag off the iPhone. If I were you I'd get rid of my iPhone and get a Samsung phone. You'll be much happier from the sounds of things.
Written by an Apple fan.He even says why he STILL wont switch to the S7 but admits the S7 blows away the iPhone in design
http://bgr.com/2016/03/09/iphone-6s-vs-galaxy-s7-comparison-ios/

"The Galaxy S7 edge also has me questioning my choice of handset where several key features are concerned. The 2K ultra HD display is so much better than the 720p screen on my iPhone 6s that they’re barely in the same league at this point"
 
Written by an Apple fan.He even says why he STILL wont switch to the S7 but admits the S7 blows away the iPhone in design
http://bgr.com/2016/03/09/iphone-6s-vs-galaxy-s7-comparison-ios/

"The Galaxy S7 edge also has me questioning my choice of handset where several key features are concerned. The 2K ultra HD display is so much better than the 720p screen on my iPhone 6s that they’re barely in the same league at this point"
Comparing the larger version of a brand new phone to the smaller version of a phone that is half a year old...yeah, definitely apples to apples there. That said, what does that have to do with the post that you replied to?
 
Written by an Apple fan.He even says why he STILL wont switch to the S7 but admits the S7 blows away the iPhone in design
http://bgr.com/2016/03/09/iphone-6s-vs-galaxy-s7-comparison-ios/

"The Galaxy S7 edge also has me questioning my choice of handset where several key features are concerned. The 2K ultra HD display is so much better than the 720p screen on my iPhone 6s that they’re barely in the same league at this point"

Well that's him but what does this have to do with you. Are you saying that you are the same as him?
 
Comparing the larger version of a brand new phone to the smaller version of a phone that is half a year old...yeah, definitely apples to apples there. That said, what does that have to do with the post that you replied to?
The display tech of the 6s and the Plus is the same,The plus has 1080P which is still nowhere near the 2K OLED of the Edge.Considering the fact that Apple is coming out with an OLED iPhone in 2017 and a 6 inch iPhone "Edge" in 2018 I doubt whether Apple will increase the resolution of the iPhone just for 1 year before revamping the display tech.Its going to remain the same.

Judging from the rumors the iPhone 7 is turning out to be a very crappy update display and techwise compared to the 7S and 8.All it has is no antenna lines,thinner and no headphone jack.

Well that's him but what does this have to do with you. Are you saying that you are the same as him?

Yes.I am only sticking around because of iOS and its integration with OSX.Android doesnt play well with it and there is still the issue of carrier bloat on the S7 and delayed updates (The S6 is still running Lollipop) .If Google came out with a Nexus like the S7 I would get it in a heartbeat.S7 is superior to the iPhone in almost ANY way but the OS itself is a tie and I prefer closed source OS with tight integration which is why I also own a Lumia 730 for Windows 10 Mobile which integrates as well as my iPhone with the XPS 13

I do dislike the planned obsolesence strategy which Apple follows with iOS but you cant have it all I guess
 
The display tech of the 6s and the Plus is the same,The plus has 1080P which is still nowhere near the 2K OLED of the Edge.Considering the fact that Apple is coming out with an OLED iPhone in 2017 and a 6 inch iPhone "Edge" in 2018 I doubt whether Apple will increase the resolution of the iPhone just for 1 year before revamping the display tech.Its going to remain the same.

Judging from the rumors the iPhone 7 is turning out to be a very crappy update display and techwise compared to the 7S and 8.All it has is no antenna lines,thinner and no headphone jack.



Yes.I am only sticking around because of iOS and its integration with OSX.Android doesnt play well with it and there is still the issue of carrier bloat on the S7 and delayed updates (The S6 is still running Lollipop) .If Google came out with a Nexus like the S7 I would get it in a heartbeat.S7 is superior to the iPhone in almost ANY way but the OS itself is a tie and I prefer closed source OS with tight integration which is why I also own a Lumia 730 for Windows 10 Mobile which integrates as well as my iPhone with the XPS 13

I do dislike the planned obsolesence strategy which Apple follows with iOS but you cant have it all I guess

No-one knows what the iPhone 7 will bring as everything is rumours at this point. However the rumours also suggest it will be waterproof, have stereo speakers, support wireless charging and there will be improvements made to the camera. I wouldn't call these crappy updates.
 
The display tech of the 6s and the Plus is the same,The plus has 1080P which is still nowhere near the 2K OLED of the Edge.Considering the fact that Apple is coming out with an OLED iPhone in 2017 and a 6 inch iPhone "Edge" in 2018 I doubt whether Apple will increase the resolution of the iPhone just for 1 year before revamping the display tech.Its going to remain the same.

Judging from the rumors the iPhone 7 is turning out to be a very crappy update display and techwise compared to the 7S and 8.All it has is no antenna lines,thinner and no headphone jack.



Yes.I am only sticking around because of iOS and its integration with OSX.Android doesnt play well with it and there is still the issue of carrier bloat on the S7 and delayed updates (The S6 is still running Lollipop) .If Google came out with a Nexus like the S7 I would get it in a heartbeat.S7 is superior to the iPhone in almost ANY way but the OS itself is a tie and I prefer closed source OS with tight integration which is why I also own a Lumia 730 for Windows 10 Mobile which integrates as well as my iPhone with the XPS 13

I do dislike the planned obsolesence strategy which Apple follows with iOS but you cant have it all I guess
Judging by the rumors at one point in time Apple wasn't even going to even be around at all more than 15 years ago (and forget being one of the most valued and profitable companies ever).
 
Pointless for an iPhone to have 1440p and no use for it (VR) Android manufacturers moved to 1440p because Android phone manufacturers are notorious for jamming in specs just to say they have high numbered specs. And then look at the result. Bigger batteries that don't last as long as a smaller battery iPhone. Look at their chips as well. Octa core? Only done to say "hey look! We have 8 cores in this phone." When they aren't really any better at all than Apple's A series dual core chips. A series chips always have destroyed snapdragon and exynos in single core performance and with only two cores not usually far behind in multi core.

Apple will eventually be moving to microLED, it's just not ready yet their move to OLED is just temporary.

Funny how you dismiss anything Apple does as innovation as "someone else has done it before so it's not." but when an Android phone manufacturer does something that's already been done its "innovative". Make up your mind man. Fingerprint readers sucked so bad before Apple introduced Touch ID. They set the standard and now everyone puts in fingerprint readers in their phones. Apple designs their own chips, they were the first in mobile to design and release a 64bit SoC and now everyone uses 64bit. Soon 3D Touch will start popping up in more Android phones. Huawei had theirs "first" but it sucked and wasn't as accurate and extremely poorly implemented. Apple will once again set the standard on how pressure screens should be. Apple sets more standards than any other phone brand.

You're assuming removing the headphone jack is purely "to make it thinner" well, it's not. (the reported iPhone 7 being thinner is due to a thinner display panel, which effects nothing else) Lightning is superior when it comes to audio quality. No gimmicky module needed like the LG. Why have two ports that offer audio when one is vastly better. Removing the jack makes it easier to waterproof. Giving Apple the opportunity to have better water resistance than the s7. It opens up more space on the inside of the phone for other things. Ever notice how if you place a 3.5mm plug on the front of your screen that it ends right where the bezel ends? That's not a coincidence, it's the jack that takes up that space. With it gone, it's the first step into making an iPhone with smaller bezels, with the end game of that being removing the Home button (further shrinking bezels) and having Touch ID integrated directly in the screen. (which they are known to be working on and have patents) 3D Touch being the first step in removing the Home Button, because now you can have a screen that can sense pressure and act like a sudo physical button.

Apple makes moves that don't seem big at first but were required steps for something huge down the road.
Really getting tired of reading your common sense response to some of these posts. Please stop it before your user ID gets a red flag. :p

Seriously you hit the nail on the head with this response.
 
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It's already been flagged. For being an Apple apologist and lover, incapable of hating anything they do.

So I've been told.

Meh...I was accused of being paid by Samsung to infiltrate Macrumors all b/c I said that Samsung's flagship devices are out doing the iPhone and that Apple was falling behind. It is what it is, I guess
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Comparing the larger version of a brand new phone to the smaller version of a phone that is half a year old...yeah, definitely apples to apples there. That said, what does that have to do with the post that you replied to?

The GS7 competes directly with Apple's 6S/6S Plus flagship. And tbh, even if you wanted to use the GS6/Edge from last year...even those devices had better displays than the iPhone IMO
 
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The display tech of the 6s and the Plus is the same,The plus has 1080P which is still nowhere near the 2K OLED of the Edge.Considering the fact that Apple is coming out with an OLED iPhone in 2017 and a 6 inch iPhone "Edge" in 2018 I doubt whether Apple will increase the resolution of the iPhone just for 1 year before revamping the display tech.Its going to remain the same.

Judging from the rumors the iPhone 7 is turning out to be a very crappy update display and techwise compared to the 7S and 8.All it has is no antenna lines,thinner and no headphone jack.



Yes.I am only sticking around because of iOS and its integration with OSX.Android doesnt play well with it and there is still the issue of carrier bloat on the S7 and delayed updates (The S6 is still running Lollipop) .If Google came out with a Nexus like the S7 I would get it in a heartbeat.S7 is superior to the iPhone in almost ANY way but the OS itself is a tie and I prefer closed source OS with tight integration which is why I also own a Lumia 730 for Windows 10 Mobile which integrates as well as my iPhone with the XPS 13

I do dislike the planned obsolesence strategy which Apple follows with iOS but you cant have it all I guess

And why would the iPhone 7 not have in updated res display? They could cram in a 4.7 inch 1080p display and a 5.5 1440p display now , too have them replaced with oled in the s cycle. That would allow apple to update the hw , make it more powerful in 2017 , without the cost of battery life.
I really don' t see your point..
Since the iPhone 4, in every 2 year with a new model, we have seen an increase in res. And the 6 plus has paved the way for a higher dpi than 326.
 
I had a 6 Plus for a year. Went to the 6s. Hardly notice a difference—and I'm one of those annoying pixel-perfect UI designers. Personally I would prefer better performance and battery life on the 7 than increasing the PPI slightly. As someone else mentioned, it might help once they switch to OLED, so they might wait until then.
 
Unless Apple goes with the existing technology like 1080p screen resolution instead of the 326ppi or 720i; it not innovation in Apple's marketing tool chest of words! Apple will eventually be forced into the 1080p screen but not going be soon! Apple been using the same screen resolution since 2009 - 4 or 4S iPhone.
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I had a 6 Plus for a year. Went to the 6s. Hardly notice a difference—and I'm one of those annoying pixel-perfect UI designers. Personally I would prefer better performance and battery life on the 7 than increasing the PPI slightly. As someone else mentioned, it might help once they switch to OLED, so they might wait until then.
It shows up watching videos and movies however, pretty clearly the difference even in 4" screen size!
 
Unless Apple goes with the existing technology like 1080p screen resolution instead of the 326ppi or 720i; it not innovation in Apple's marketing tool chest of words! Apple will eventually be forced into the 1080p screen but not going be soon! Apple been using the same screen resolution since 2009 - 4 or 4S iPhone.
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It shows up watching videos and movies however, pretty clearly the difference even in 4" screen size!
Ok,

So which 4 inch 1080p display are you talking about?
There is no smartphone at 4 inch 1080p around, not on any platform including android.
 
Unless Apple goes with the existing technology like 1080p screen resolution instead of the 326ppi or 720i; it not innovation in Apple's marketing tool chest of words! Apple will eventually be forced into the 1080p screen but not going be soon! Apple been using the same screen resolution since 2009 - 4 or 4S iPhone.
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It shows up watching videos and movies however, pretty clearly the difference even in 4" screen size!

What does it matter how long they've been using it for. It's a great screen, why change it?
 
What does it matter how long they've been using it for. It's a great screen, why change it?
I'd say the 4' screen is showing its age particularly compared to it's own younger (and larger) brethren. I feel like they could borrow a lot of the tech from the more recent phones while keeping the size.

I't s alittle bit like my macbook screen. I have a 2011 MBP and have no issues until my sister in law brought her rMBP over when visiting and boy, the difference is notable. It's not necessarily "throw my computer out the window" notable, but my next macbook, should I end up getting another macbook, will be retina (or probably better as I plan on having this another 2-3 years at least).
 
I'd say the 4' screen is showing its age particularly compared to it's own younger (and larger) brethren. I feel like they could borrow a lot of the tech from the more recent phones while keeping the size.

I't s alittle bit like my macbook screen. I have a 2011 MBP and have no issues until my sister in law brought her rMBP over when visiting and boy, the difference is notable. It's not necessarily "throw my computer out the window" notable, but my next macbook, should I end up getting another macbook, will be retina (or probably better as I plan on having this another 2-3 years at least).

In electronics in general, the longer you can hold off buying, when you do finally buy the item, it will "usually be better and at times cheaper then the previous year's version. Apple electronics are luxury goods so there will not be much of a decrease in price but the item will be better as each year into the future! Three years from now, completely new technology standard since Skylake CPU was release in 2015!
 
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