Iphone 7 Higher Res Display

[Jsameds]

Some people will only accept that technological progression is necessary when Apple decides it is

We've been stuck at 326 PPI on iPhones for six years now. It was groudbreaking in 2010 but is considered pretty poor today, especially on a flagship phone. iPhone displays have stagnated, there's no two ways about it.

 

[Elisha]

Some people will only accept that technological progression is necessary when Apple decides it is

We've been stuck at 326 PPI on iPhones for six years now. It was groudbreaking in 2010 but is considered pretty poor today, especially on a flagship phone. iPhone displays have stagnated, there's no two ways about it.

If Apple didn't make it, it doesn't exist!

 

[I7guy]

Some people don't realize there are massive choices in today's market and if the product from one manufacturer is not well thought of, another is there to happily accept your money.

 

[Jsameds]

Some people don't realize there are massive choices in today's market and if the product from one manufacturer is not well thought of, another is there to happily accept your money.

I don't get why you're like this. It's ok to be critical about things you know, but you seem to be over protective for some reason.

Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone - I have the 6S and it's practically perfect, but the fact of the matter is that iPhone displays have fallen behind in recent times and there are better displays on the market, and that is a fact. It's not subjective, it's tried, tested and proven - not just in resolution but contrast ratio, accurate colour reproduction - on all fronts really.

I'm not saying iPhone should have a 1440p display - I'm saying for a flagship phone it should be better than 750p in 2016. 1080p OLED would be perfect, and not unreasonable either.

 

[I7guy]

I don't get why you're like this. It's ok to be critical about things you know, but you seem to be over protective for some reason.

Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone - I have the 6S and it's practically perfect, but the fact of the matter is that iPhone displays have fallen behind in recent times and there are better displays on the market, and that is a fact. It's not subjective, it's tried, tested and proven - not just in resolution but contrast ratio, accurate colour reproduction - on all fronts really.

I'm not saying iPhone should have a 1440p display - I'm saying for a flagship phone it should be better than 750p in 2016. 1080p OLED would be perfect, and not unreasonable either.

The reality is Apple will do what it will do. Not to be confused with the iPhone is perfect, but I bought it knowing it didn't have the highest resolution screen, but incorporated a top notch display nonetheless.

I'm all pro-consumer when it comes to buying your preferred product. And I'm certainly entitled to my opinion that I don't like the current crop of oled displays, realizing at some point in time Apple will be using them.

As far as the comment about being protective I don't need to protect Apple they do well at it themselves; I just offer an opinion and that's it.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

I don't get why you're like this. It's ok to be critical about things you know, but you seem to be over protective for some reason.

Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone - I have the 6S and it's practically perfect, but the fact of the matter is that iPhone displays have fallen behind in recent times and there are better displays on the market, and that is a fact. It's not subjective, it's tried, tested and proven - not just in resolution but contrast ratio, accurate colour reproduction - on all fronts really.

I'm not saying iPhone should have a 1440p display - I'm saying for a flagship phone it should be better than 750p in 2016. 1080p OLED would be perfect, and not unreasonable either.

Agreed. I don't understand some of the responses here. "If you dont like the iPhone, just get another phone" Ok...or maybe Apple could, idk,stop half assing their phone and actually compete? I get that they have like 869 trillion dollars in the bank or whatever but that shouldn't stop them from competing.

750p on a flagship phone in 2016 is completely unacceptable. Can you imagine Samsung putting a 720p display on the Galaxy S7 Edge? Or LG putting a 750p display on their LG G5? This forum would make fun of them from now until the end of time. And as soon somebody goes "well Apple has the same display" then you'd get the usual "well Apple did it right" response lol smh
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The iPhone 7 I agree should get 1080p and it probably will be (non s year phones when the redesigns happen are typically when Apple either ups resolution and/or screen size.) For the 7+ I would think if it did also get a resolution bump, it would be to its native res of 1250p so that it would no longer have to render 1250p then downscale back to 1080p.

1440p is just too much a battery drain, and Apple knows this.

There's a reason Android phones require larger batteries to equal an iPhone battery life that have smaller batteries. A lot of that is having to drive the 1440p display (There are other reasons why typically Androids need larger batteries, but the display is a major one)

iPhone I wouldn't count on 1440P until 2018 when Apple is said to be making the OLED or maybe even microLED switch off of LCD.

Meh, the plus would be ok with 1440p. I honestly doubt the battery life would take a much of a hit, if at all. When Apple first put the Retina display on the i4, people were like "the battery is gonna last like 2hrs" and the 4 ended up having decent battery life. Then Apple put a 1080p screen on the Plus, and people were like "omg that's gonna kill the battery" and it didn't. 1440 would be fine, especially with it being the standard now and all.

 

[KaliPaige]

I'd rather they stick with what works and not go down the Android path of showing who has the biggest, baddest specs. I'd make a comparison here, but I'd rather not get banned from the forums.

I don't see any individual pixels on my Mom's iPhone 6, and I definitely don't see any individual pixels on my own iPhone 6+. The display is crisp and clear, and I can't honestly see a difference between it and my friend's Galaxy Note 4 (other than how oversaturated the colors are on hers!).

The difference? My phone lasts a heck of a lot longer because it's not having to drive so many pixels. 2k, 4k, and 5k displays are wonderful inventions indeed and should definitely be used, but not when the only reason is to have a selling point that has no benefit to the consumer over a perfectly good 720/1080p display. There's a reason the rMBPs have 2k displays, the 21.5" iMacs have 4k displays, and the 27" iMacs have 5k displays... Apple's not trying to create an artificial disparity between displays; they're sticking with what works best at each screen size. If you look at the individual PPIs of each device, they mostly line up perfectly with an average of 264 PPI for the Macbooks (Pros), iMacs, iPad Air 2, and iPad Pro. The iPhones and the iPad Mini 4 average 326 PPI with the outlier being the iPhone 6S+ at 401.

So how about instead of something that'll just diminish battery life for no tangible benefit (unless you have hawk eyes), we stick with what's a gorgeous display that's just as easy on the eyes as any 4k phone could be and work on better battery technology for a truly all-day device?

 

[Radon87000]

Agreed. I don't understand some of the responses here. "If you dont like the iPhone, just get another phone" Ok...or maybe Apple could, idk,stop half assing their phone and actually compete? I get that they have like 869 trillion dollars in the bank or whatever but that shouldn't stop them from competing.

750p on a flagship phone in 2016 is completely unacceptable. Can you imagine Samsung putting a 720p display on the Galaxy S7 Edge? Or LG putting a 750p display on their LG G5? This forum would make fun of them from now until the end of time. And as soon somebody goes "well Apple has the same display" then you'd get the usual "well Apple did it right" response lol smh
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Meh, the plus would be ok with 1440p. I honestly doubt the battery life would take a much of a hit, if at all. When Apple first put the Retina display on the i4, people were like "the battery is gonna last like 2hrs" and the 4 ended up having decent battery life. Then Apple put a 1080p screen on the Plus, and people were like "omg that's gonna kill the battery" and it didn't. 1440 would be fine, especially with it being the standard now and all.

Exactly.We will never know the end of it if the S7 Edge had 720P.Samsung would be mocked and ridiculed but since it's Apple they would get a free pass even for 480P

 

[I7guy]

Seems like only you guys care about this. If this were a universal theme Apple wouldn't sell one phone instead just the opposite is occurring.

 

[ABC5S]

I was wondering...

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a f/1.7 apurture (before a f/1.4) why does Apple have the f/2.2

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an Super AMOLED display that is nice looking, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a water resistant phone, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an SD slot now, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can hit the home button twice to activate the camera, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 and S6 can have a wireless charging, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can put in a 3,000 mAh or 3,600 mAh battery in there phones, why couldn't Apple ?

It's not catch up or the like, its just that Samsung has some of these things a few years ago.

However, if Samsung had these things with iOS, I would be all over it. Maybe I will anyway

 

[Radon87000]

I was wondering...

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a f/1.7 apurture (before a f/1.4) why does Apple have the f/2.2

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an Super AMOLED display that is nice looking, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a water resistant phone, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an SD slot now, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can hit the home button twice to activate the camera, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 and S6 can have a wireless charging, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can put in a 3,000 mAh or 3,600 mAh battery in there phones, why couldn't Apple ?

It's not catch up or the like, its just that Samsung has some of these things a few years ago.

However, if Samsung had these things with iOS, I would be all over it. Maybe I will anyway

To add another

If Samsung Galaxy S7 has a fully functional NFC why can't Apple?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have Quick Charge why can't Apple?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 has miniscule bezels why can't Apple?

Apparently these things "Are not ready for primetime" and 75 million customers dont care for them.Not to worry though.These very same features will be ready once Apple "invents" them.

 

[I7guy]

I was wondering:

- if throwing hardware at a problem is going to solve the issue.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

I was wondering...

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a f/1.7 apurture (before a f/1.4) why does Apple have the f/2.2

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an Super AMOLED display that is nice looking, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a water resistant phone, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an SD slot now, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can hit the home button twice to activate the camera, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 and S6 can have a wireless charging, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can put in a 3,000 mAh or 3,600 mAh battery in there phones, why couldn't Apple ?

B/c nobody needs this. Apple fans don't need good specs. Apple has never cared about specs in the iPhone (2010 says otherwise) Oh and Apple has 769 zillion dollars in cash and they sell a lot of phones. So it's ok for them to half ass their product. There's no need to improve anything I say keep the 750p screens going for the next 10 years

 

[C DM]

I was wondering...

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a f/1.7 apurture (before a f/1.4) why does Apple have the f/2.2

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an Super AMOLED display that is nice looking, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a water resistant phone, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an SD slot now, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can hit the home button twice to activate the camera, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 and S6 can have a wireless charging, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can put in a 3,000 mAh or 3,600 mAh battery in there phones, why couldn't Apple ?

It's not catch up or the like, its just that Samsung has some of these things a few years ago.

However, if Samsung had these things with iOS, I would be all over it. Maybe I will anyway

To add another

If Samsung Galaxy S7 has a fully functional NFC why can't Apple?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have Quick Charge why can't Apple?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 has miniscule bezels why can't Apple?

Apparently these things "Are not ready for primetime" and 75 million customers dont care for them.Not to worry though.These very same features will be ready once Apple "invents" them.

That's more or less equivalent of asking if Android allows for this or that, why can't iOS? Each one has their own products and their own ways of going about them and their own customers and users.

 

[Atomic Walrus]

Just to make things a bit more confusing, the current Android 1440p screens are... not really 1440p. They're pentile, which means their effective PPI is MUCH lower (unless you like to run green on green) and they have no native screen resolution.

If I had to pick between a 1080P RGB panel and a 1440P pentile (diamond) I'd always pick the RGB 1080 because it's visually extremely close while being significantly easier to run as far as rendering work (CPU compositing, GPU rendering).

Read this:
"although this is achieved with a PenTile subpixel layout that makes total subpixel density lower than a conventional RGB stripe, so true subpixel density increases around 20% when compared to an RGB stripe 1080p panel. For reference, going from an RGB stripe 1080p panel to a 1440p panel of the same subpixel stripe would have a density increase closer to 80%." - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/4

So it's true that you're still getting some resolution increase with the pentile 1440p, but the trade off is that you're doing WAY more rendering work for a very small actual increase in resolution.

OLED's uneven decay rates are the primary reason for these pentile displays, so hopefully we'll be seeing movement in micro-LED soon (same idea but with each subpixel driven by a microscopic traditional LED). In the meantime it's worth noting that if Apple moved to a 1440p RGB LCD panel they'd be getting a MUCH more significant resolution gain vs those OLED panels for the same processing/rendering cost.

 

[stevemiller]

I'd certainly like it if Apple bumped up the pixel density on the 4.7" to 1080p.

I'd love it if they squeezed it into the 4" device, and elated if they fit a 4.3" 1080p screen into the footprint of the 5S.

You might not agree and that might not be your preference, but for me that'd be a lovely device.

 

[KaliPaige]

I'd certainly like it if Apple bumped up the pixel density on the 4.7" to 1080p.

I'd love it if they squeezed it into the 4" device, and elated if they fit a 4.3" 1080p screen into the footprint of the 5S.

You might not agree and that might not be your preference, but for me that'd be a lovely device.

I don't know about 1080p, but I would love the idea of a 5S-sized device with a slightly bigger screen if they could pull it off. Part of the reason why so many people like the smaller devices is simply the one-handability, but I don't think anyone would complain if they bumped up the size in the smaller footprint.

Honestly, even though I love my 6+, I know plenty of people who just can't stand how our phones are growing every year. My mom has arthritis and the size of the 6 is as far as she's willing to go. God help her if she was an Android person, because I can't find a single flagship these days that isn't just a watered-down version of a better phone that is below 5 inches.

 

[stevemiller]

I don't know about 1080p, but I would love the idea of a 5S-sized device with a slightly bigger screen if they could pull it off. Part of the reason why so many people like the smaller devices is simply the one-handability, but I don't think anyone would complain if they bumped up the size in the smaller footprint.

Honestly, even though I love my 6+, I know plenty of people who just can't stand how our phones are growing every year. My mom has arthritis and the size of the 6 is as far as she's willing to go. God help her if she was an Android person, because I can't find a single flagship these days that isn't just a watered-down version of a better phone that is below 5 inches.

I think what has clearly emerged is that there is love out there for both large and small screens. Glad it sounds like Apple will offer options.

 

[Elisha]

I would love a 5.2 - 5.5" phone with super thin bezels, straight edges, flat-ish sides, and a big battery.

 

[Elisha]

DP

 

[Andres Cantu]

I was wondering...

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a f/1.7 apurture (before a f/1.4) why does Apple have the f/2.2

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an Super AMOLED display that is nice looking, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have a water resistant phone, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have an SD slot now, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can hit the home button twice to activate the camera, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 and S6 can have a wireless charging, why can't Apple ?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can put in a 3,000 mAh or 3,600 mAh battery in there phones, why couldn't Apple ?

It's not catch up or the like, its just that Samsung has some of these things a few years ago.

However, if Samsung had these things with iOS, I would be all over it. Maybe I will anyway

To add another

If Samsung Galaxy S7 has a fully functional NFC why can't Apple?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 can have Quick Charge why can't Apple?

If Samsung Galaxy S7 has miniscule bezels why can't Apple?

Apparently these things "Are not ready for primetime" and 75 million customers dont care for them.Not to worry though.These very same features will be ready once Apple "invents" them.

People can say specs don't matter, but at the end of the day, all of these things would be excellent additions to the iPhone, there's no denying that.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see some of them until the iPhone 8.

 

[Radon87000]

Just to make things a bit more confusing, the current Android 1440p screens are... not really 1440p. They're pentile, which means their effective PPI is MUCH lower (unless you like to run green on green) and they have no native screen resolution.

If I had to pick between a 1080P RGB panel and a 1440P pentile (diamond) I'd always pick the RGB 1080 because it's visually extremely close while being significantly easier to run as far as rendering work (CPU compositing, GPU rendering).

Read this:
"although this is achieved with a PenTile subpixel layout that makes total subpixel density lower than a conventional RGB stripe, so true subpixel density increases around 20% when compared to an RGB stripe 1080p panel. For reference, going from an RGB stripe 1080p panel to a 1440p panel of the same subpixel stripe would have a density increase closer to 80%." - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/4

So it's true that you're still getting some resolution increase with the pentile 1440p, but the trade off is that you're doing WAY more rendering work for a very small actual increase in resolution.

OLED's uneven decay rates are the primary reason for these pentile displays, so hopefully we'll be seeing movement in micro-LED soon (same idea but with each subpixel driven by a microscopic traditional LED). In the meantime it's worth noting that if Apple moved to a 1440p RGB LCD panel they'd be getting a MUCH more significant resolution gain vs those OLED panels for the same processing/rendering cost.

http://www.androidauthority.com/note-3-pentile-note-2-rgb-comparison-270988/

Anyway the Galaxy S6 Edge and most likely the S7 don't use Pentile Matrix

 

[Radon87000]

I was wondering:

- if throwing hardware at a problem is going to solve the issue.

Show me how even one of these features does NOT contribute to user experience.They are all solving problems the iPhone currently has

B/c nobody needs this. Apple fans don't need good specs. Apple has never cared about specs in the iPhone (2010 says otherwise) Oh and Apple has 769 zillion dollars in cash and they sell a lot of phones. So it's ok for them to half ass their product. There's no need to improve anything I say keep the 750p screens going for the next 10 years

The sad thing is that some people don't realise that even if Apple released a 8GB iPhone with a 480P display it would still sell more than any manufacturer

 

[Elisha]

I don't think hardware itself is the major problem at this point. If flagship Android manufacturers committed to frequent software updates as well as all major Android version updates for at least 3 years, they would get more loyal customers. Nexus itself isn't as accessible as the Galaxy or the LG G series so not much traction is gained. Apple has a blind loyal following cause the customers don't feel abandoned after 12 months since they they a few more years of of iOS updates to look forward too.
Also it feels like Android handsets age too quickly especially because of lack of updates yet the iPhone 5s is still purchase worthy since it will probably get a couple more iOS updates being 64bit and all. I don't think I would even consider buying a 2013 Android flagship at this point!

 

[Truefan31]

I don't think hardware itself is the major problem at this point. If flagship Android manufacturers committed to frequent software updates as well as all major Android version updates for at least 3 years, they would get more loyal customers. Nexus itself isn't as accessible as the Galaxy or the LG G series so not much traction is gained. Apple has a blind loyal following cause the customers don't feel abandoned after 12 months since they they a few more years of of iOS updates to look forward too.
Also it feels like Android handsets age too quickly especially because of lack of updates yet the iPhone 5s is still purchase worthy since it will probably get a couple more iOS updates being 64bit and all. I don't think I would even consider buying a 2013 Android flagship at this point!

See I don't see that as blind following. I see it as valuing the support Apple offers. Apple is in a unique position where they control the whole experience. No carrier involvement, no other oems changing things. Give top customer support, nice hardware, easy to learn interfaces, timely updates and you have a recipe for success.

If android handsets seemingly age quickly it's because there's so many in addition to some oems lack of timely updates. There's basically an android phone coming out every 2 weeks to a month it seems. It's diluting the top end android flagships and it's why resale value plummets on these devices.