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People can say specs don't matter, but at the end of the day, all of these things would be excellent additions to the iPhone, there's no denying that.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see some of them until the iPhone 8.

It's not that specs don't matter it's just that typically Apple doesn't spec sheet their products when presenting them. If they highlight performance it's seemingly never against other competition, it's compared to previous iterations. They normally don't talk about ram and holding tabs or benchmark comparisons to the supposed competition. One of the highlights of the 6s was the new nvme controller. It surprised many when reviewed. It literally blew away expectations, reviewers saying its advanced past others by a large degree. Apple didn't even mention it in their keynote. Or how the a9 can benchmark close to a surface pro 3.
 
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Show me how even one of these features does NOT contribute to user experience.They are all solving problems the iPhone currently has

The sad thing is that some people don't realise that even if Apple released a 8GB iPhone with a 480P display it would still sell more than any manufacturer
Isn't your user experience different than mine depending on what I value? Or is there some absolute rule in the book on this? I also didn't know the iPhone has "problems", I appreciate the heads up on that.:rolleyes:
 
"Problems"...right...
Isn't your user experience different than mine depending on what I value? Or is there some absolute rule in the book on this? I also didn't know the iPhone has "problems", I appreciate the heads up on that.:rolleyes:
Yes problems

The iPhone has a inferior display compared to many Android flagships

The iPhone's camera shutter speed is inferior to Galaxy S7

The iPhone still takes a longer time to charge and also drains quickly

The iPhone's NFC still can't be used for proper file sharing

The iPhone's bezels are ugly compared to many Android flagships

I could go on but you get the point
 
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Guys, we're never going to all agree. :p

Some of us want some things, some of us want other things, and some of us are content with things as they are.

Personally this should have been a poll for 750p, 1080p, 1440p. At least then there's some numbers to back up whether most people aren't worried about this, or if there's a market demand.
 
Yes problems

The iPhone has a inferior display compared to many Android flagships

The iPhone's camera shutter speed is inferior to Galaxy S7

The iPhone still takes a longer time to charge and also drains quickly

The iPhone's NFC still can't be used for proper file sharing

The iPhone's bezels are ugly compared to many Android flagships

I could go on but you get the point
Yup, we got the point that things that are supposed "problems" for some are nothing of the sort for many others.
 
Yes problems

The iPhone has a inferior display compared to many Android flagships

The iPhone's camera shutter speed is inferior to Galaxy S7

The iPhone still takes a longer time to charge and also drains quickly

The iPhone's NFC still can't be used for proper file sharing

The iPhone's bezels are ugly compared to many Android flagships

I could go on but you get the point

None of those are problems. You may not like them but that doesn't make it a problem.

Shutter speed, really? Lol I can tell you're trashing iPhone to your friends in public.
 
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Samsung is still incorporating Apple's innovations. The new Samsung S7 is a prime example. It has similar 3D Touch feature (one of the rarer things Apple did first.) Also they're adding a similar "Live Photos" feature. (I'm well aware Apple didn't do a Live Photo type feature first, but not until Apple adding it did Samsung add it)

Like C DM said. Apple has never really been about being first. They usually see what others do, see what works and doesn't work, and if they feel like they can do it better, they do their spin on it. As mentioned, the iPod wasn't the first MP3 player around, they just made it "better". The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone around, they just made it "better". The iPad wasn't the first tablet around, they just made it "better". Apple usually tends to make things more mainstream once they put their spin on it and they become standards as a result.
First I've heard of a 3D touch feature, I know it was rumored but they never mentioned it during the announcement.
 
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I have to agree about the slow shutter speed on the new iPhones though. I have less keepers than I did with my S6. I've never had to delete so many pictures like I do on the iPhone. They need a sub f/2.0 lens to compete especially since the competition has kick ass cameras and are using f/1.7 to f/1.9.
 
Yes problems

The iPhone has a inferior display compared to many Android flagships

The iPhone's camera shutter speed is inferior to Galaxy S7

The iPhone still takes a longer time to charge and also drains quickly

The iPhone's NFC still can't be used for proper file sharing

The iPhone's bezels are ugly compared to many Android flagships

I could go on but you get the point
No I don't get the point actually. Seems like a 10 out of 10 user experience for me is not so for you. Isn't that life though? So please feel free to go on and on; while I continue to test my frequently iconic looking updated idevice that is almost 5 years old with the better true to life screen.

Edit: I just retread this whole stupid thread and it's like my dad can beat up your dad (or my dad sells more than your dad). You can happily continue if you believe hardware is the answer. I still like the iPhone screen better though with its front flash and 3D Touch.
 
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It's not that specs don't matter it's just that typically Apple doesn't spec sheet their products when presenting them. If they highlight performance it's seemingly never against other competition, it's compared to previous iterations. They normally don't talk about ram and holding tabs or benchmark comparisons to the supposed competition. One of the highlights of the 6s was the new nvme controller. It surprised many when reviewed. It literally blew away expectations, reviewers saying its advanced past others by a large degree. Apple didn't even mention it in their keynote. Or how the a9 can benchmark close to a surface pro 3.
You're right. One of the only times I could think of Apple comparing their specs to the competition was how fast the 4s camera was compared to the S2 and how fast the A6X was compared to the NVIDIA Tegra. After that, I don't recall any more comparisons.

I also agree, the nvme controller did blow everyone's expectations, especially because it was unexpected like the 64-bit A7. It's definitely something they should have shown-off about.

Still, one of the more obvious cases where specs matter a lot is the cameras. I would love for Apple to match the S7's camera specs in the iPhone 7, but I know it's not gonna happen. Now if they wanted to really wow us, they would include their optical-zooming rear camera on both models. But they've shown in the past that the better camera goes to the larger model, and that shouldn't be the case, especially because Samsung is not doing it and Apple is known for not having confusion in their products in terms of having to decide between products for one single feature (OIS, in this case).
 
Yup, we got the point that things that are supposed "problems" for some are nothing of the sort for many others.
If they weren't a problem Apple wouldn't fix it But they will

Also subjective is the nature of ALL problems.I don't find iTunes to be a POS app but many others do and their opinion is just as valid
None of those are problems. You may not like them but that doesn't make it a problem.
It definitely would be a problem for anyone switching over from pretty much any Android flagship
Shutter speed, really? Lol I can tell you're trashing iPhone to your friends in public.
Try out the GS6 shutter speed and then tell me if you feel the shutter speed of the iPhone is fast
I have to agree about the slow shutter speed on the new iPhones though. I have less keepers than I did with my S6. I've never had to delete so many pictures like I do on the iPhone. They need a sub f/2.0 lens to compete especially since the competition has kick ass cameras and are using f/1.7 to f/1.9.

This is the comparison where the S7 camera literally wipes the floor with the iPhone

s7-vs-iphone6-camera-1.jpg

No I don't get the point actually. Seems like a 10 out of 10 user experience for me is not so for you. Isn't that life though? So please feel free to go on and on; while I continue to test my frequently iconic looking updated idevice that is almost 5 years old with the better true to life screen.

Edit: I just retread this whole stupid thread and it's like my dad can beat up your dad (or my dad sells more than your dad). You can happily continue if you believe hardware is the answer. I still like the iPhone screen better though with its front flash and 3D Touch.

It's too bad Apple disagrees.Most of what I listed will be on future iPhones and then you will probably say its revolutionary.Of course Sammy will already be on something more exciting by then and Apple will copy Samsung's lead again
 
If they weren't a problem Apple wouldn't fix it But they will

Also subjective is the nature of ALL problems.I don't find iTunes to be a POS app but many others do and their opinion is just as valid

It definitely would be a problem for anyone switching over from pretty much any Android flagship

Try out the GS6 shutter speed and then tell me if you feel the shutter speed of the iPhone is fast


This is the comparison where the S7 camera literally wipes the floor with the iPhone

s7-vs-iphone6-camera-1.jpg



It's too bad Apple disagrees.Most of what I listed will be on future iPhones and then you will probably say its revolutionary.Of course Sammy will already be on something more exciting by then and Apple will copy Samsung's lead again
So according to you if Apple didn't update their product line it would be admitting they are perfect, but since they are improving their products they must be problematic. It's too bad Samsung has the same issues and is now copying Apple. Sound logic indeed.
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It speaks volumes about the usefulness of the feature when a company notoriously famous for copying Apple many times didn't bother to copy this instead focusing more on the Edge display
Given Samsung Mobule sales volumes they seem to be making bad choices and might do better by copying apple.
 
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If they weren't a problem Apple wouldn't fix it But they will

Also subjective is the nature of ALL problems.I don't find iTunes to be a POS app but many others do and their opinion is just as valid

It definitely would be a problem for anyone switching over from pretty much any Android flagship

Try out the GS6 shutter speed and then tell me if you feel the shutter speed of the iPhone is fast


This is the comparison where the S7 camera literally wipes the floor with the iPhone

s7-vs-iphone6-camera-1.jpg



It's too bad Apple disagrees.Most of what I listed will be on future iPhones and then you will probably say its revolutionary.Of course Sammy will already be on something more exciting by then and Apple will copy Samsung's lead again

I switched from the Samsung Galaxy S5 to the iPhone 6 Plus I'm 2014 and I didn't have any problems. I don't doubt that the S7 has a better camera than the iPhone 6S but I would take those promotional pictures with a pinch of salt. They are biased and promotional pictures are not really representative of how someone is going to use a phone in real life situations.
 
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If they weren't a problem Apple wouldn't fix it But they will

Also subjective is the nature of ALL problems.I don't find iTunes to be a POS app but many others do and their opinion is just as valid

It definitely would be a problem for anyone switching over from pretty much any Android flagship

Try out the GS6 shutter speed and then tell me if you feel the shutter speed of the iPhone is fast


This is the comparison where the S7 camera literally wipes the floor with the iPhone

s7-vs-iphone6-camera-1.jpg



It's too bad Apple disagrees.Most of what I listed will be on future iPhones and then you will probably say its revolutionary.Of course Sammy will already be on something more exciting by then and Apple will copy Samsung's lead again
Someone changing something doesn't necessarily mean there's a problem, it can just as well be that something can be better and/or different. Logic doesn't quite work that way.
 
So according to you if Apple didn't update their product line it would be admitting they are perfect, but since they are improving their products they must be problematic. It's too bad Samsung has the same issues and is now copying Apple. Sound logic indeed.
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Given Samsung Mobule sales volumes they seem to be making bad choices and might do better by copying apple.

Someone changing something doesn't necessarily mean there's a problem, it can just as well be that something can be better and/or different. Logic doesn't quite work that way.

Those improvements which Apple is gonna do were implemented by Samsung long back.Thats the point here.Apple i taking its sweet time migrating to the superior technology.Some of the tech which Apple is using is outdated and you know it

And please done bring sales into this.I can guarantee that the iPhone with a 8GB storage and a low 800X480 resolution would still have the max sales

I switched from the Samsung Galaxy S5 to the iPhone 6 Plus I'm 2014 and I didn't have any problems. I don't doubt that the S7 has a better camera than the iPhone 6S but I would take those promotional pictures with a pinch of salt. They are biased and promotional pictures are not really representative of how someone is going to use a phone in real life situations.

No marketing stunt at all.Heres the live video of the scene

 
Those improvements which Apple is gonna do were implemented by Samsung long back.Thats the point here.Apple i taking its sweet time migrating to the superior technology.Some of the tech which Apple is using is outdated and you know it

And please done bring sales into this.I can guarantee that the iPhone with a 8GB storage and a low 800X480 resolution would still have the max sales



No marketing stunt at all.Heres the live video of the scene

What does a youtube video have to do with my response. Deflection?
It speaks volumes about the usefulness of the feature when a company notoriously famous for copying Apple many times didn't bother to copy this instead focusing more on the Edge display
The above is what I quoted and then followed it up by suggestion maybe Samsung didn't copy the right thing, since they themselves admit their mobile sales have tanked.

And in response you post a video? Seems like deflection to me.
 
Those improvements which Apple is gonna do were implemented by Samsung long back.Thats the point here.Apple i taking its sweet time migrating to the superior technology.Some of the tech which Apple is using is outdated and you know it

And please done bring sales into this.I can guarantee that the iPhone with a 8GB storage and a low 800X480 resolution would still have the max sales



No marketing stunt at all.Heres the live video of the scene

For someone that is so negative towards the iPhone I don't understand why you still have an iPhone. Why don't you just get a Samsung phone you will be much happier.
 
Those improvements which Apple is gonna do were implemented by Samsung long back.Thats the point here.Apple i taking its sweet time migrating to the superior technology.Some of the tech which Apple is using is outdated and you know it

And please done bring sales into this.I can guarantee that the iPhone with a 8GB storage and a low 800X480 resolution would still have the max sales



No marketing stunt at all.Heres the live video of the scene

Someone doing something first doesn't make it somehow better or someone else that didn't do it worse just because of that. Again, logic doesn't quite work out that way.
 
If it's not fake
s7-vs-iphone6-camera-1.jpg


It's incredible!
We are waiting for a response from the apple
 
I take pictures with my iPhone 6S all the time and I've never had a picture that bad before o.o

I guess whatever point they're trying to prove isn't going to have an effect on me then.
 
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I find my 6S to be noticeably darker then my 5S. The only reason I know this is because I photo a particular form for work when I get home and email it, every single day...for years. Prior to my 6S I could do this using the dome light of my vehicle. Now its very difficult and pretty much requires the flash.

I also feel like I have a lot more blurred images. I try to be much more careful when taking a pic with my 6S and I've felt the need to turn on auto HDR (and not keep the originals) as an aid that I don't feel that I needed before.

Still a good camera but I'm a little disappointed coming from a 5S which I was actually quite impressed with (when it was released).

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As far as higher res goes. Pictures/video taken on the device don't have anything to do with the screen resolution of that device. That is like expecting a DSLR to have a 4k screen, its just silly and not necessary. If Apple can pull it off without sacrificing a second of battery life then I'm all for it, if not I'm completely satisfied with the current resolution.

We've had cameras with higher resolutions then screen resolutions forever...why is this all of a sudden a problem with 4k? The iPhone 4S had 1080p recording with a 960x640 resolution...if we want to get technical it had a 8megapixel camera which is near 4k monitor resolution (gasp!!).....
 
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