Iphone 7 is still far behind the competition

[jamesrick80]

As long as Apple fans accept any product ...they will continue to be limited on features since some people will just buy anything....no one reasonably can truly say that the new iPhone can do more than last years iPhones except for water resistance....camera upgrades are fine but that's a normal feature and occurs every year....same can be said for processors....what will your iPhone do this year that is actually unique and different...nothing but play Mario brothers

 

[TallManNY]

No new features added? What were we watching today, then?

Watched the whole thing. It is a very nice spec bump, but no I did not see a feature as significant as 3D touch. CPU is amazing. But lets go through what they added.

Better water resistance is only situationally useful. The current phone is quite water resistant already.

The haptic touch home button is an increase in durability, but a potential decrease in performance and experience in using it.

Increased CPU is impressive, but the 6S is really fast already.

Increased LTE speeds is theoretical. You won't get them in practice and if you are in a situation where you are getting great LTE speeds, the old phones would give you a great experience already. But it is nice to have better speed.

Battery life is improved, but my 6S iPhone already has all day and then some battery life. So did my 6 iPhone.

Screen is improved, but mainly on a phone I'm looking at black text on a white background.

Storage is improved, but that is just a cost thing. It saves people $100 if they can get by with 32 but couldn't get by with 16. If you need more you have to spend the extra $100. I would have to spend the extra $100. More storage above 64gb has limited to utility to me (under current usage, zero utility since I'm below 64gb) and probably less to most people. There are diminishing returns in storage.

Camera. Now here is the issue. It is potentially vastly improved on the Plus. I don't use the Plus. On the regular, I'm not sure how much it is improved. Selfie side is rarely used by me. But the current Selfie side takes a really good picture already anyway. So if you are Plus users, maybe you got something more than a spec bump.

Stereo speakers, well I have headphones and at home I have various other speakers what will blow the phone away (bluetooth and speakers my phone can plug into).
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The iPhone is the quickest phone and doesn't explode. Everyone else is playing catch up.

Steve Jobs released a phone with no 3G, no copy & paste and it couldn't send a picture message. You couldn't even install third party programs. At no point was the iPhone further behind on features than that. But it was still a revolution.

The first iPhone was so much more powerful than any other smartphone out there it was silly. It was space aged. The lack of 3G and copy and paste was a silly thing to compare to when the phone could access the freaking internet faster than any other phone anyone had in their pocket. The only competition at the time that anyone was using in volume was blackberries and the iPhone was years ahead of blackberries.

 

[Gmcube]

I don't know. I wasn't thinking about it until my 6 screen shattered. Its like it knew the apple event was less than 18 hours away it just suicided...

So now I have to decide if I want to pay to repair it, get a 7, or *gasp* jump ship. explosions aside The note 7 is looking really enticing to me lately.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

The note 7 is looking really enticing to me lately.

I'm sure you'll get a bang out of it.

 

[jamesrick80]

I'm sure you'll get a bang out of it.

Jokes aside...no phone's feature set is as complete as the note 7...im sure many apple fans would love if their iPhones supported the apple pencil, secure folder, virtual reality, native file manager, always on display, iris scanner and of course oled.....

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Jokes aside...no phone's feature set is as complete as the note 7...im sure many apple fans would love if their iPhones supported the apple pencil, supported virtual reality, native file manager, always on display, iris scanner and of course oled.....

I seriously considered the Note 7, but the software always turns me off, no matter what version of Android I'm using. The lag reports I'm hearing bother me as well. Personal preference.

 

[Zetaprime]

I'm sure you'll get a bang out of it.

Get one of those and use it while riding a 'hover board' that blows up too.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I'm really pleased when the upgrades. The refined design is cool. The new cameras look excellent. Increased battery life is always welcome. The virtualized home button is a long time in coming. Water resistant? Yes! Quad core A10 combined with 6 core GPU. Wide gamut display. Win win win.

Looks like a much more significant upgrade than the OP is giving it credit for.

 

[jamesrick80]

I'm really pleased when the upgrades. The refined design is cool. The new cameras look excellent. Increased battery life is always welcome. The virtualized home button is a long time in coming. Water resistant? Yes! Quad core A10 combined with 6 core GPU. Wide gamut display. Win win win.

Looks like a much more significant upgrade than the OP is giving it credit for.

The OP was just stating apple gave standard upgrades and nothing really unique or groundbreaking ....upgrades to the processor and camera are standard...and no one is gloating about the new home button..it doesnt change the overall experience of the iPhone.

 

[Zetaprime]

The OP was just stating apple gave standard upgrades and nothing really unique ....upgrades to the processor and camera are standard...and no one is gloating about the new home button..it doesnt change the overall experience of the iPhone.

I don't think they need to change the overall experience.

 

[lenard]

I can't imagine running or working out without bluetooth. As far as car that is valid. I'm sure something like the current dock will work though where you can charge and use for music. although I think a cable that can both charge and be used for music should be provided. Shouldn't be up to the buyer for that.

iPhone 7 has bluetooth 4.2, read the specs!!!

 

[Surf Monkey]

The OP was just stating apple gave standard upgrades and nothing really unique ....upgrades to the processor and camera are standard...and no one is gloating about the new home button..it doesnt change the overall experience of the iPhone.

The fact that they're evolutionary changes doesn't devalue them IMO. And I'm pretty hyped for the Plus cameras.

 

[stlredbird]

Im in the apple eco system. Apps, music, movies. Im not starting over with some other platform. Maybe in my younger days. So while i would have liked a fresher design im very pleased with the performance upgrades and the dual camera performance and features are extremely exciting for a guy who cant stop taking pictures of his new baby and doesnt plan on carrying a real camera around all the time. And if the plus does in fact have the rumored 3 GB of RAM then that's some very nice icing on the cake.

 

[Zetaprime]

Im in the apple eco system. Apps, music, movies. Im not starting over with some other platform. Maybe in my younger days. So while i would have liked a fresher design im very pleased with the performance upgrades and the dual camera performance and features are extremely exciting for a guy who cant stop taking pictures of his new baby and doesnt plan on carrying a real camera around all the time. And if the plus does in fact have the rumored 3 GB of RAM then that's some very nice icing on the cake.

The 'real' camera I own is old and way outdated. The iPhone already took better pix years ago than that camera can take.

 

[Jetro]

iPhone is a beast still. Sure Tim Cook may not be the innovator that Steve jobs was but he has them sticking to steve's standard of making high quality products. The speaker in even an iPhone 4 sounds better than most current android phones let alone the one in the 6s and now it will have two of the same great sounding speakers. Video playback on iPhones and iPads is much smoother than android's and the screen is the best one over any device I don't care what people say.

 

[bean dip]

You are cherry picking features (you also mentioned water resistance twice).

I could pick out any given still in production smartphone line and say "it took X years for finger print sensor" "it took X years for a two tone flash" "it took X years for their version of 3D Touch" "it took X years for caller ID prediction" "they STILL don't have dual camera setup" Etc etc etc..

They are so far behind!

Buy a device on the features that matter to you. If an 8 core processor matters to you then buy a device that has that (lol).

lol. Apple wasn't the first with any of those features.

 

[C DM]

lol. Apple wasn't the first with any of those features.

Someone else had 3D Touch? Someone else had TouchID (and no, crappy fingerprint scanning that sometimes worked after multiple attempts isn't the same thing at all)? Execution plays quite a bit of a role too.

 

[Nautilus007]

Honestly i was impressed because I had expected so little...but yeah next year's phone better be balling, but I'm sure.it'll be another evolution

 

[Bear807]

The Eco system of Apple has an edge of its own compare to android. You can still do the same thing on android but more troublesome, the fragmentation of android does kills it, if they could be more unify things will change.

Been running both iPhones and android side by side. As a phone on its own iPhone was really smooth for like 5 years before compare to android, then gap gets closer and closer for android until this year the S7 edge fully replaces my iPhone 6s Plus for photos. The newer android experience is very close call to iPhone in usability and refinement give it another year or 2 once Google do more fixes I'm expecting it will be just as good!

If you enjoy iMessages, iPhoto etc iPhone is still a neater package.

Spec wise like cpu and Rams you can't really chase them as long the phone runs smooth I'm fine with it all spec suddenly become gimmick.

For this year is quite dissapointment really the 6s plus is still flawless new camera not justifiable and the price tag :/

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Someone else had 3D Touch? Someone else had TouchID (and no, crappy fingerprint scanning that sometimes worked after multiple attempts isn't the same thing at all)? Execution plays quite a bit of a role too.

Huawei had a form of 3D Touch earlier this year. Not as versatile as Apple's but still...

 

[C DM]

Huawei had a form of 3D Touch earlier this year. Not as versatile as Apple's but still...

So that would still be after Apple then, right (given that Apple had it last year already)?

 

[Gathomblipoob]

So that would still be after Apple then, right (given that Apple had it last year already)?

I'm sorry, I meant early last year, before the release of the iPhone 6s. My bad.

 

[Armen]

Lots of folks on 6S aren't going to upgrade because there were no new features added.

You may want to check the poll that's attached to this thread. 46% are upgrading from the 6S.


No new features?

• Water and dust resistance
• Haptic home button
• Brighter screen
• Improved camera (especially in the 7+)
• 4 core processor (2 energy efficient cores for basic functions and 2 high performance cores)
• 6 core GPU for console quality gaming
• Stereo speakers (which no iPhone has ever had)

 

[dj1891]

Yesterday disappointed me, minimal upgrades to everything, just enough to make it a new phone, no innovation what so ever, yesterday just highlighted the greedy b@stards apple are.

 

[Zirel]

Jokes aside...no phone's feature set is as complete as the note 7...im sure many apple fans would love if their iPhones supported the apple pencil, secure folder, virtual reality, native file manager, always on display, iris scanner and of course oled.....

Can you use 3D touch with the note 7? No! Apple Pay? Also not! Can you use the dual camera features? No, the same old thing... does it take Live Photos? No! 4K 60 fps? Doesn't do. Can it take 10 pictures per second without interruption until the memory gets full? Nope!

It's still inferior to the 6s in many areas like real world speed, like video stabilization, like slow motion footage quality, like security (LMAO Android + security), like supplier responsibility, environmental responsibility, like Apple Stores service.

At its heart it's still a crappy Android, meaning many quality Apps missing and lower quality ports from iOS. It's also not like you can drive a Porsche among many other brands and have Android Auto, you won't be finding home automation devices as easily as you get with Apple HomeKit, third party accessories are also better, everything you can think of, every case, every lightning accessory, there's for iPhone, native Apple Music, iTunes is the biggest music store in the world, and that's it. You won't get iMessage, or FaceTime, or iCloud full system backups that always works with every App and doesn't miss a thing.

iOS has native file manager, and a system of storage that works with all apps, not only some utilities.

now good luck with very scratch prone display and back, exploding batteries, pens that break if put the wrong way. and gimmicks like iris scanner when they already copied the TouchID. Poor battery life after you install all the apps you need, and having to reboot it from time to time, because it slows down. Also, enjoy Marshmallow.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Honestly i was impressed because I had expected so little...but yeah next year's phone better be balling, but I'm sure.it'll be another evolution

No way, no how. Next year is the 10 year anniversary of the iPhone. Look for a complete redesign.
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Can you use 3D touch with the note 7? No! Apple Pay? Also not! Can you use the dual camera features? No, the same old thing... does it take Live Photos? No! 4K 60 fps? Doesn't do. Can it take 10 pictures per second without interruption until the memory gets full? Nope!

iOS has native file manager, and a system of storage that works with all apps, not only some utilities.

now good luck with very scratch prone display and back, exploding batteries, pens that break if put the wrong way. and gimmicks like iris scanner when they already copied the TouchID. Poor battery life after you install all the apps you need, and having to reboot it from time to time, because it slows down. Also, enjoy Marshmallow.

And the 7 shoots RAW. Killer.