Wow how old are you? How slow do you run? I don't know ANY runners who wear wired earphones any more.
But I suppose you have to enjoy that HIGH fidelity sound while pumping through a 10K training sesh! im sure you can really tell the difference!
Iphone 7 is still far behind the competition
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Wow how old are you? How slow do you run? I don't know ANY runners who wear wired earphones any more.
But I suppose you have to enjoy that HIGH fidelity sound while pumping through a 10K training sesh! im sure you can really tell the difference!
Except the very post that follows yours shows the opposite to the be the case with actual benchmark information rather than just talk.
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I see quite a few that still do. It's not really any kind of a universal thing or anything like that that all or even most runners don't use wired headphones. Definitely quite a few people in gyms as well, whether they are running or doing something else. That's not to say it might not be better for them all not to have the wires, but there they are nonetheless.
TJ82
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You read some utter bilge on this site on others, but every once in a while some guy steps up and raises the bar.
I agree with most of what you've listed above. It's hard to dispute the fact that Apple does consistently lag far behind Samsung in raw device spec's.
So, how can Apple continue to do this and get away with it? They obviously are getting away with it because they are selling a lot of iPhones! In my mind, the answer is that Apple's value proposition is much more about the integration of their hardware and software to produce an excellent user experience that customers enjoy and in the cohesiveness of their overall ecosystem than it is on raw device spec's. In terms of raw device specs, Apple is always going to keep you wanting more.
Yes, I find it annoying that Apple consistantly drags their feet with respect to introducing new features for their devices. However, deciding to abandon iPhone in favor of Samsung (for example) isn't just a phone decision, it's an ecosystem decision and more. If it were just about the phone, I'd consider swithing to Samsung. But it's not and I'm sticking with Apple. I'm too heavily invested in their ecosystem to easily switch.
That being said, you need one more category in your poll: "No, because the iPhone 7 is more of a 6++ and iPhone 8 will likely be announced in 2017 bringing a radical overhaul in the iPhone design". If I don't go for the iPhone 7's, this will be the reason.
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x-evil-x
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This is for the population that hasn't given bluetooth a shot "lately".
Getting rid of cables is the single best thing you can do in the gym. Not having a cable running up your shirt. Pulling your head to make adjustments to the cable that is pulling from sweat. Cable getting caught on something and screwing up a set/rep. Weight training alone the improvement of going wireless is huge to me being I'm in the gym 5 days a week for 2-3 hours a day.
Runners would see a big change in this too. Ive ran outside and had my arm catch on my cable pulling out my phone and hitting the ground.
If there was bluetooth back in my skateboarding days it would of been a dream. I couldn't imagine not having wires with doing technical tricks. Often times i would park my car next to the spot we where at and turned up my stereo because skating with a tape player(yes tape player) and headphones wasn't ideal but everyone did it.
Bluetooth to a ton of people is a BIG BIG deal...
swarlos
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This is a major reason I can't bring myself to switch back to Android. I'm so invested in the ecosystem it would be dumb to start over. IMO I think Apple's is a much more cohesive and quality ecosystem compared to Googles.
OneMike
macrumors 603
Specs have nothing at all to do with anything I said
Crazy Badger
macrumors 65816
I'm still undecided about upgrading my 6 to a 7, as I think next years model might be a bigger leap forward, but I don't understand all the hate and vitriol toward Apple in general for their lack of innovation.
I don't think Apple has ever been truly innovative, but what they have done incredibly well is take an existing product and make it easier to use and others have followed. I had a Nokia E90 Communicator before my 1st iPhone, and it did everything that did and more, but it wasn't as easy and was much bigger.
Before that, the iPod wasn't the 1st MP3 player, but it was the 1st that was simple to use due to a great interface and the iTunes store. Pretty sure more music is sold on MP3 or via streaming services than is sold on physical disks today. Again, not really innovative, but Apple took the lead and others followed.
Apple continue to do this, often at the frustration of users who aren't quite ready for the change. The removal of the headphone jack is a classic example in the 7. In 2-3 years time no new mobile phones sold will have this jack, just like floppy disk drives are no more and CD/DVD drives are heading the same way.
It used to be a nightmare trying to keep information on devices in sync (anyone remember serial cables and Psion devices) and Apple have made that completely seamless. I think that's the thing I like the most about Apple and where they have been somewhat innovative. Creating an eco-system, where every device works together sharing information and updating through 'the cloud' has made life so much easier. OK, it's not perfect by any means, but it beats having to manually sync devices, and it's getting better with each iOS/OS release.
Apple isn't the great innovator everyone seems to give them credit for, but they do continue to make simple to use products, that work brilliantly together, and their design decisions (love or hate them) lead the way forward for everyone else.
I don't think Apple has ever been truly innovative, but what they have done incredibly well is take an existing product and make it easier to use and others have followed. I had a Nokia E90 Communicator before my 1st iPhone, and it did everything that did and more, but it wasn't as easy and was much bigger.
Before that, the iPod wasn't the 1st MP3 player, but it was the 1st that was simple to use due to a great interface and the iTunes store. Pretty sure more music is sold on MP3 or via streaming services than is sold on physical disks today. Again, not really innovative, but Apple took the lead and others followed.
Apple continue to do this, often at the frustration of users who aren't quite ready for the change. The removal of the headphone jack is a classic example in the 7. In 2-3 years time no new mobile phones sold will have this jack, just like floppy disk drives are no more and CD/DVD drives are heading the same way.
It used to be a nightmare trying to keep information on devices in sync (anyone remember serial cables and Psion devices) and Apple have made that completely seamless. I think that's the thing I like the most about Apple and where they have been somewhat innovative. Creating an eco-system, where every device works together sharing information and updating through 'the cloud' has made life so much easier. OK, it's not perfect by any means, but it beats having to manually sync devices, and it's getting better with each iOS/OS release.
Apple isn't the great innovator everyone seems to give them credit for, but they do continue to make simple to use products, that work brilliantly together, and their design decisions (love or hate them) lead the way forward for everyone else.
woodekm
macrumors 65816
Apple has been doing (for a few years now) what they call "Sandbagging". Apple does it for a reason and the people that upgrade every year, just to have the latest iPhone (Top answer from this threads poll: "Yes, I'm upgrading from an Iphone 6s"), is the reason why. And WHY Apples "sandbagging" of latest features, exist$.
The "S" models are just another hidden "sandbagging" ploy. Drag out another (slightly upgraded model) and sell it to the fanboys that keep $$ flowing so they can say they have the best iPhone.
The "S" models are just another hidden "sandbagging" ploy. Drag out another (slightly upgraded model) and sell it to the fanboys that keep $$ flowing so they can say they have the best iPhone.
Micky Do
macrumors 68020
No choice for me so vote…..
No, because I seldom carry a mobile telephone; when I do it is a several years old $20 Nokia.
I can do without being on line 24/7, thus traced every time I use a gadget. When I leave my desk top computer, I'm off line. It's not that I have anything to hide; just that it's the way I prefer things to be.
No, because I seldom carry a mobile telephone; when I do it is a several years old $20 Nokia.
I can do without being on line 24/7, thus traced every time I use a gadget. When I leave my desk top computer, I'm off line. It's not that I have anything to hide; just that it's the way I prefer things to be.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
Wireless charging - nice to have and a shame the iPhone doesn't support this yet.
Water resistant - iPhone 7/7+ has this. For many of us its a nice thing to have on our androids but was never a reason to buy them alone. I've never dropped any of the dozens of phones i've had in water.
SD Card Slots - not all android phones have these, and for many 32, 128 & 256gb will be more space than they ever need
OLED screens are nice but not automatically better as many presume. Most OLED outside of Samsung's flagships are poor colour accuracy wise and have yellow or pink casts to them. Likewise the pentile array of OLED makes 'affective' ppi closer to the 401 ppi of the iPhone Plus model than their claimed 500-580 ppi number actually belies. So whilst OLED can certainly be better - out of the myriad of OLED devices very few are great quality ones (mostly Samsung's flagship line are great -.but devices like the 6P, Moto X Force & such are all pretty flawed screen wise).
8 Core Processors - means nothing. CPU wise the iPhone still benchmarks with the finest and always has.
Larger screens - subjective. Its neither automatically better or worse.
Stereo Speakers - the new iPhone has this as standard
Camera image stabilisation - the new iPhones have this as standard.
Higher MegaPixels - like OLED higher mega pixels does not 'automatically' equate to better.
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TallManNY
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I'd call a new feature something like Siri, Touch ID and 3D Touch screen. All the things you list are nice improvements, but not new features in my definition. And I suspect the haptic home button makes the phone slightly less nice to use (though trade off in durability and water resistance is no doubt worth it).
I might still upgrade from my 6S. But I'm a gadget guy who checks MacRumors three times a day. I'm hardly a normal person. And I also have decent amounts of disposable cash. But to be fair, I'd probably see more improvement going from my iPad Air 2 to an iPad Pro because of the pencil support.
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I'm not sure which devices those were, but I had a state of the art blackberry when the iPhone came out, a Palm Treo and Palm before that. None of those devices had the computational power to do anything close to what the iPhone could do. And MHZ doesn't necessarily tell the whole story or even any of the story as a chip can run at a higher MHZ and get blown a way by a better chip.
theramod
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So octa-core is a feature now? Maybe for Samsung. With octa-core, Samsung is still slower than iPhone so I really dont see much reason why Apple should add such overkill hardware
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You are clearly looking at the wrong articles then.
MartyCan
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Thank you Mr. Grammar.
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mthomas184
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Actually, the SD card slot is a pain in the ass. I had a S7E and had nothing but problems with it. Thank god Apple doesn't use them.
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Apple Pencil: Some folks may use it. I had the Note 5 and never used the S Pen. Plus it is WAY too big to carry around with an iPhone X Plus
Secure Folder: Never used it
VR: Its cool but nothing spectacular that I would leave Apple for
Native file manager: I will admit, it is nice.
Always on display: Had it on my S7E and turned it off after 2 hours. But some people may like it.
Iris scanner: Dumb. My finger works just fine.
OLED: It would definitely be nice.
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Meh. I will take Samsung Pay over Apple Pay anyday. And I love using Apple Pay.
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They wont. They look at who has the bigger specs and automatically think it is the best.
Re read my post. This time don't insert things I didn't say.
But let's say I did say Apple was the first and I didn't say "any given device still in production". Do you feel it's a fair comparison to compare a single company (Apple) to ALL other smartphone manufacturers regardless other whether the phone is even made anymore aka every other smartphone ever?
Current iPhone 6s plus and Galaxy S7 Edge user. I have to say after many years using primarily an iPhone, the current batch of top Android phones are on par or slightly better in my opinion.
Quad HD super amoled screens are stunning, far superior to the iPhone LCD display, especially the low res 4.7 model. Low light camera performance isn't great, the iPhone 7 should rectify it, but the autofocus on the new S7 is ridiculously fast.
The just announced LG V20 is an audio visual beast, Huwawei phones are fantastic on a budget. I've been guilty of blindly following Apple, staunchly believing they're the best around, but with the current price hike, mediocre upgrades on this year's models, I think I'll give it a miss this year.
Quad HD super amoled screens are stunning, far superior to the iPhone LCD display, especially the low res 4.7 model. Low light camera performance isn't great, the iPhone 7 should rectify it, but the autofocus on the new S7 is ridiculously fast.
The just announced LG V20 is an audio visual beast, Huwawei phones are fantastic on a budget. I've been guilty of blindly following Apple, staunchly believing they're the best around, but with the current price hike, mediocre upgrades on this year's models, I think I'll give it a miss this year.
Rafterman
macrumors 604
iPhone is still behind the competition hardware-wise (though this new processor is top level - for now). But the iOS ecosystem is still superior. Apps tend to be better and are updated quicker than their Android counterparts. And if you are a Mac user, integration with Macs, in things like Handoff, is solid.
No doubt they're software is better integrated, but I think Google are getting there. What I find strange is the need for people to blindly run Android down, I like both operating systems and ecosystem, and only an idiot would claim Android devices are far behind an iPhone
CooKieMoNs7eR
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I agree with OP, it's not as explosive as the galaxy note 7
Beenblacklisted
macrumors 6502
not all people trust cloud based storage
Especially celebrities! Remember the iCloud hack, they all had there nudes stolen and uploaded online.