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iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model
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Perhaps I am misunderstanding you completely, but... is it not obvious that dual cameras will require double the space of a singe camera?
2 lenses side-by-side take up more space than one lens?
and since the 7 is smaller than the 7+ there may by no room for a camera unit which is 100% larger than the single camera?
I'm no expert, but getting something which is double the size into the smaller vessel might not be possible?
Dude I've had a 16G iPhone 6 and iPad 2 and it hasn't bothered me in the slightest. And now I will buy the 32G and again I won't use the memory to capacity. Your average mum, dad, grandma and pa, don't care about RAM, processor speed and ridiculous spec bumps like you do. That's the bulk of their user base not spec geeks like you. And the notion that memory somehow makes an Apple iPhone inferior to 'every other company in the world' so we have to rationalize their move is just ludicrous when you take that fact into account. User experience cannot and will not be undermined by memory capacity and geekbench results.
And as for fanboy, do you think people use that term as a way of demeaning the fact that Apple has a incredibly large user base that is dedicated to the company and it's products? I think you do. BTW that's something that Samsung has tried to achieve for a very long time but you know ... no one cares. It's just a phone running Android and it just happens to be the most popular one of dozens. There's no build up to it's release, no hype, no mock models produced months in advance, no parts leaks speculating on potential features, no nothing. You can't make that **** up even if you tried, and Samsung has but still NADA.
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I wonder if there will be huge lineups at the Apple stores here in Beijing? Maybe I'll have to go to the Sanlitun store and see what all the fuss is about lol The dual camera looks pretty cool. Still eagerly awaiting the Macbook Pro refresh but I guess the new iPhone will have to do lol
The average mum, dad and granpa do care about space left on the device.
8GB iPhone wasn't a good move, my father has one and I had to teach him to constantly download pictures on his Mac to free space on the device. He's really happy with his 5c, expect for the storage option. He can deal with it and he bought the 5c at a really good price that's why my advice was to buy it, but the low storage quite ruins the user experience.
16GB is better and, in my opinion, more than enough for most users. But we pay a premium price for the iPhone, so more storage is more than welcome.
32GB is finally a good storage option. It is the one I'd chose on the iPad, in fact I have the 64GB model with about 30GB available and I have plenty of apps.
I'm not sure about the iPhone, now I have less than 10GB available on my 64GB model and although I may delete a few apps and save about 4GB of space I'd have to do something about my photo library. I could put everything on the cloud and keep thumbnails only, but I'm about to become a father and I image I'll take a lot of pictures and videos of my daughter. I would be a shame to be constantly forced to download videos and pics on the Mac to save space on the device, just like my father. I have a 6s and never shot a 4K video in 10 months, but I like slow motion and that take space as well.
In the end I think that for the premium price you pay for iPhone you don't have to compromise. In my country, including taxes, iPhone 6s starts at $860 and it is really stupid to save about 10% to buy the base tier and ruin the user experience.
The second tier is the right one, I just hope they'll keep charging $100 for it and not $150 ($200 in Europe, really too much)
Quoting an internet petition as proof of something....
Again nobody cares, except of a few elitists/autists like yourself.
This is complete nonsense. External headphone DACs, Amps and DAC/Amp combos have been available for years, in hundreds of different models, sizes and configurations. See the thousands of photos here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/633511/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xvi
As a relatively new dad, I agree. You will take more pictures and videos than ever before. It's partially why I bought Lumia 950XL. Camera was amazing and storage expandable, but the App Store killed the idea for me. Yesterday I returned it and got the 6S Plus with 64GB instead.
That camera though... I miss it already.
Congratulations by the way!
how long after does it usually take for pre orders to be available for the phones? and then how long until they release? i cannot remember
Quoting an internet petition as proof of something....
Again nobody cares, except of a few elitists/autists like yourself.
I disagree. I'm an average user and didn't like the idea of not having a headphone jack, so I upgraded yesterday and decided to skip iPhone 7 until next year when there are more accessories available. I have wireless Beats, sure. They will work well, but. I also have a few traditional headphones and I would like to be able to use them without dongles or adopters.
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Depends. Usually a week or two before preorders. The a couple of weeks for the first ones to be delivered. I preordered the 6 with T-mo early and had one delivered on lunch day. The 5S took a few weeks, if I remember correctly.
Quoting an internet petition as proof of something....
Again nobody cares, except of a few elitists/autists like yourself.
I'm not sure whether an average user would regularly participate on a tech form like this.
Regardless, for something represented in these forums as a must-have, widely used, universal feature on the iPhone, which many are saying will be the difference between skipping the next iPhone or not, I'd like to point out that 300,000 signatures is pretty insignificant compared to the number of iPhones Apple sells.
300,000 signatures means the difference between Apple selling 200.7 million iPhones versus 201 million iPhones. Those 300,000 signatures might as well be spitting into the wind for all the good it's going to do them. Now if the petition had even 3,000,000 signatures, that might be pause for concern as to the representative sample. And if this really were as big a problem as the "save-the-Jack" people make it out to be, there would be more like 20 million signatures.
So there's that.
Good point, but the 300,000 signatures likely represents a small percentage of those who don't like the idea. I don't, but I didn't sign the petition and I'm sure most people don't bother signing one either. Then again, 3 million signatures wouldn't make a dent, as you pointed out. Plus, even some of those who are not happy about the missing head phone jack will still purchase an Apple phone - such as the iPhone 6S which will now cost a little less. I did exactly that... So, the loss to Apple won't be great.
One more thing. There are probably people who are happy with the change but they of course don't complain, so they will buy the phone. And we don't know all the features yet, so there may be some things that will sway even those who didn't like the missing headphone jack but will love the new camera or processor or the new colors, etc.
I'm sure Apple isn't losing any sleep over this...
For me the lack of headphone jack is a deal killer. I bout a rather expensive set of ear phones and I'm not about to give them up to go "wireless". I hope they make it an option and not push wireless down our throats.
Yeah, the people who hate adapters are surely going to love those frankenstein contraptions.
So, the problem with jumping in on someone else conversation is you really need to go back a few posts for context. My point was very specifically that external DACs, amps and combos are available. The starting point was the argument that "wired will always sound better". That's demonstrably false.
What I was saying is completely accurate as you just proved: you can buy better quality DACs and amps than Apple provides. Granted, I was working from the assumption that most people complaining about not wanting an adapter for their analog headsets were looking for a convenient and integrated system and thus wouldn't prefer stringing their phone to a DAC to an amp to a headset. Thus, not complete nonsense.
Your retort was that a bunch of people have taken stuff and duct taped it together to get better sound than their SanDisk Sansa gives by itself while still using wired headphones. Yes and most of what you're showing is people attempting to make that as portable as possible. If they had the resources of a manufacturer they would almost certainly want to integrate it and solder it together over short analog runs rather than string together a series of components through long wires because if they really cared about sound quality they would realize that every connector is a potential source of SNR loss. Thus, not complete nonsense.
Most of what you showed is not using an external DAC that I can tell, but if it were, and I believe people do, they would understand that whether those bits came over the air or across a cable makes no difference to what comes out the other side of the DAC and eliminating the wire and moving to a wireless connection would make for a better quality experience than the guy complaining that "My 2nd Monoprice cable broke" is having. Thus, not complete nonsense.
If a glass version comes out - which is a big unsubstantiated if - it would be because the combination of lightness and strength was sufficient to prevent breakage. So, in that case you could argue that Apple was setting itself up towards an all glass design over the last several years by making each generation thinner until it made its weight goal.
I want them to actually work (not so concerned with the licensing)...
Two ports are going to cost more to make, that's all I'm saying.
Apple didn't even mention the Y-Adaptor, which is kind of necessary.
Just delay the video and you can fix the lag
Hey, don't shoot the messenger—haha! Only restating what the OP wrote. But I completely agree, who the hell in their right mind would intentionally pressure wash their iPhone anyway. Crazy kids.
and thats relevant to my posting how? you decide to pick a random phone with bezels as well, ok?