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iPhone 7 to Include Five Colors, IPX7 Water Resistance, Dual 12MP Cameras on Plus Model
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If the IPX7-rated Apple Watch is any indication, IPX7 should be plenty good enough for a phone. Head over to the AW forum and you'll find plenty of MR members who swim and shower with their AWs on a daily basis with no ill effects. IPX7 means it's waterproof to 1 meter for 30 minutes. Who's actually going to take their iPhone swimming?
Agreed. I'm sure that there are some people who'd like to be able to swim with their iPhone, but for those of us who just want to guard against accidental splashes and shallow dunks, this should be fine.
Whenever Apple puts "Pro" on something, it doesn't mean "Professional", it means marketing.
It's like winning a trophy for playing, not winning: "It's okay, even though your pick-up team lost to the Golden State Warriors, you're just as special".
Let me know when someone ports a full professional App to the iPad Pro. It's not a matter of how many iPads Apple sells, it's how many iPad Pro users will spend thousands of dollars for real "Pro" Apps, especially when they're hamstrung by all of the iPad's constraints, most of which won't be addressed by a faster processor.
As "Slimmed down" as The Mac OS is these days, it's just a matter of time before the actual "Pro" Apps currently available for the Mac, start to slide into oblivion.
The DAC/AMP Combo in the iPhone is actually very good. DACs have become really matured over the last years and if I pay up to 1000 bucks for a phone, I should be in a position to demand excellent sound chips inside the phone.
And if you ever listened to music with a great pair of Headsets (possibly with a low impedance level, like a lot of companies offering nowadays) you would know that the iPhone, as it is, has great audio capabilities.
External DAC/AMPs have been available for years. So customers have been having opportunity to "scale them to their budget". But what for? Like I said: the iPhone has already great sound. If you are an audiophile and have a pair of high end headphones, you probably have an external DAC/AMP which is most likely too big for what the average listener would regard as convenient.
As for myself: I bought a pair of great sounding headphones with a low impedance level so also low powered amplifiers, like mobile devices, can drive them without breaking into sweat. Probably a lot of people appreciating good sound quality have done likewise.
I see the removal of the jack not as an improvement, but rather inconvenience. Like I said: audio via Lightning port has been available for years - but the market opted so far against it.
And for the rest of your argument:
I can assure you that if I would use the same headsets: one with a 1 m cable connected to the iPhone via the 3.5 mm jack and the other having the exactly the same DAC/AMP as the iPhone soldered 20 cm away from the cans and the whole thing connected via the Lightning port they would sound exactly the same to you.
And I am not even including using compressed audio files into my argument.
As for wireless vs. wired, for me the most deciding factor is convenience. No need to charge them; I can quickly plug my headsets from my iPhone into to my Mac in a second, bring them along on a trip and plug them into the aircrafts entertainment system, etc.
Last month I went for a short trip and didn't bring my headphones along. During the flight I had the urge to play one round of Hill Climb Racer, so I could plug the crappy headphones available in the aircraft right into my phone to play.
Having an universal standard is great. And we are about to give that up. And more sadly, some of you are trying to spin that as a good thing. We are not moving forward in that respect. I see us moving backwards to a time of having to use adapters and dongles.
it's posted during labor day weekend (a 3day weekend in u.s.. SatSunMon).. weekend threads generally have more commenting since they're sitting on the front page for longer.. this one sat there for an extra day.
You think this is bad? I've seen message boards with 5-10k replies over a week over anticipation of a new rewards credit card.... people crunching numbers left and right. At least this is fun tech!
It's not just about folks who spent $20 on earbuds, it's also the folks who spent $300, $400, or $500+ on headphones. Have you been living on another planet during this debate with your "99% won't care claim"; back in June over 300,000 people signed a petition venting their anger at Apple for the rumored 3.5mm jack removal, that number today is probably increased by hundreds of thousands more.
This is not about so-called cheap $20 earbuds, its about not being able to charge an iPhone while having Lighting headphones plugged in, it's about Apple forcing a proprietary connector on consumers, it's about having to lug around another adapter, it's about MacBook users that all have 3.5mm audio jacks who won't be able to use their new Lighting connected headphones on their MacBook's (cuz their ain't no 3.5mm to Lighting adapters), it's about removing a standard that works across phones, tablets, laptops, music players, automobiles, stereos, desktops, even in-seat audio jacks on commercial airliners, it's about the hyped up sound quality claim when using a so-called Lighting digital connection (totally blown out of proportion but it's a great sound byte for Apple on September 7th), it's a lot more than $20 earbuds.
So take your smug elitist comment that this debate is simply about people who purchased $20 earbuds and stick it in the 3.5mm jack on your iPhone.
The two camera module would be much bigger and the phone would be smaller, what's so outrageous about that. There is less space so you can't get everything you want. They probably could put it in at the expense of 60 minutes of battery life, but then people would complain about that...
I remain a staunch supporter of the 3.5mm jack for numerous reasons, but what you said is quite logical and it's refreshing to see when folks understand the role of the DAC/AMP and just don't drink the Kool-Aide laced "3.5mm is analog and that's bad, Lightning is digital and that's good" position.
My take of your take
1 ) Leaks were true and it is indeed a fantastic phone.
2) Digging up Jobs another years is hard work but hey, lets do it cause its "fun" (sic)
3) Bottled "Miracles" are sold off to Google for a profit, Apple laughs at the dumbasses.
4) Torpedos from U2 sinks concern trolls and constant whiners for another year.
I get what you mean and even IPX7 is ultimately fine for me, it just seems like with a lot of things they are doing they in theory should be able to increase the level which would be nice.
Can you not read? We are talking about the Google Play Store, here.
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Well I bought the 4S, then the 5 (for bigger screen). I made that last until my 6S, but the 7 just doesn't look like a worthy upgrade from anything less than a 5S. I think the smartest way to approach iPhones is to buy on the 'S' lines, too. It's a pain for you that you've fallen into the 7 line as opposed to the 7S/8. It looks like iPhone 2017 (7S/8?) will be the one to have since the 6.
Yeah, Macs always fly. With new OS', however, they begin to jutter a bit. My mid-2014 rMBP has to think about things which it used to do in a flash. Maybe the SSD's slowing a bit - either way, I think for laptops it's wise to update every 4-6 years on Mac, depending on how heavy your usage is. The way I see it, unless Apple bucks up their Mac game, I'll keep this until it dies, then replace it with Windoze if I have to.
Always a good old belly laugh to be had listening to people making purchase decisions about a device THAT HASN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED YET.
As if it's really that funny for you. Primarily what has been reported through Ming Kuo, supplier and manufacturer leaks, this is almost certain what we will see on Wednesday. Most of the announced features are indefinite at this point. But hey, keep laughing while the rest of us are involved in more useful discussions.
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I read through 59 pages of posts to see if You would make an Apple Watch comment and you dissapointed Me you didn't.
I think the reason this particular thread is hot right now is truly the discussion of the iconic 3.5 Jack being removed. The other features are interesting to discuss, but the almighty Jack is slated to be axed and there are those who are still deciding if this iPhone is for them or not.
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The same argument could be made for the even teenier and tinier wireless earbuds (which e.g. in case of the Bragi earphones hold two noisy radios in each earpiece). Besides, you don't easily "crack a shield" in a phone.
They already are. If you are not happy with the builtin DAC/amp, you can already use external ones.
If you are talking about earbuds (as opposed to fullsize headphones), keep in mind that all the components (i.e. batteries, drivers and electronics) now have to be squeezed into a similarly tiny volume that only the drivers occupy in wired earbuds. There will be compromises. And one fundamental issue with wireless earphones won't go away: The need for extreme power efficiency. Hours of runtime from a battery the size of a pea will always require compromises in the forseeable future, be it limited power output of the amp in the earbud or audio compression to reduce wireless bandwidth.
BTW, the relalatively low-impedance audio signal on a headphone jack is not very susceptible to cable noise. In any normal environment a 3ft cable will not cause audible degradation as long as the cable isn't damaged.
Cannot wait to see iPhone 7 4.7" specs! Phil will skip over the display resolution like he has done since 2011 - iPhone 4 got release and marketings "Retina" catch all word that is made up to hide the crappy screen 720i resolution. Oh it might be 750p even. I have not the time to calculate it since the formula is pretty involved. But even at 750p, that is still long way to 1080p and that not QHD which is 2160p!
I have more than one set of headphones - depending on the listening situation. I do not use my headphones solely with my iPhone. I have two little sons who are curious and may find that thing on the table and place it somewhere else. It is still an inconvenience. You can put up with it. I have made my choice. I will buy a 6s Plus and hope Apple management comes to its senses by 2017 or 2018 at the latest.
Totally agree. Apple will spend 3 hours telling us how slim, slick and compact the device is only to send us to the store afterwards to buy dongles, adoptors, accessory hubs and other junk so you can connect the things you have.
Luck is what they will need. Epic marketing failure in the making. My parents and there friends have trouble enough with new software iterations. Many people won't even know there is no headphone jack until they unwrap this thing. Then they will first accept it, until they end up on vacation, a business trip, a plane or in the train without the dongle. And suddenly all that beautiful music, all the movies are kept safely away from them in a stylish box. Big annoyance. In the US this will probably not happen. Apple is so dominant here that accessories are sold at every street corner. But internationally Apple is often chasing the market leaders. Apple accessories there are scarce - especially outside of bigger cities. This has a big potential of a blowback.
Disclaimer: I have owned almost every iPhone since the original iPhone, own an iPad and am on my third Macbook. I wish Apple no harm at all. But when I see the company drive onto the edge of a cliff I will not expect a wonderful takeoff. This can crash and burn badly.