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iphone 7 Water resist.... I am verry verry disapointed
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Don't "feed it." He obviously has nothing meaningful to contribute.
I'm sorry to hear that. Samsung has great phones that are IP68 water resistant, but be careful. They do not cover water damage either, despite what they show in their commercials. Specifically this one at the 46 second mark.
You're right. I'm going to chill now.
Sometimes you have to talk a guy down from the ledge. Thanks.
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Are we here at MR assuming your son didn't handle the phone before and possibly damaging the phone in a way that the water seals weren't to spec?
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An S7 Edge I had did exhibit some touch sensor glitches and home button glitches for about an hour after I splashed some water on it. The home button wouldn't respond and the screen was slow and sporadic in responding to touches after I dried the water off.
It did get back to normal.
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I'm sorry to hear that. Samsung has great phones that are IP68 water resistant, but be careful. They do not cover water damage either, despite what they show in their commercials. Specifically this one at the 46 second mark.
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You're right. I'm going to chill now.
Sometimes you have to talk a guy down from the ledge. Thanks.
An S7 Edge I had did exhibit some touch sensor glitches and home button glitches for about an hour after I splashed some water on it. The home button wouldn't respond and the screen was slow and sporadic in responding to touches after I dried the water off.
It did get back to normal.
Since Apple Geniuses tend to quickly check the sim tray for water damage, if you want to be a little extra secure in the event of water contact, maybe apply some simple masking tape over the sim tray slot? I know it's the easiest spot for them to check, but also maybe Apple Geniuses seeing this is the main point of water seal failure?
I might do this since I am on our boat 3-4 times a week.
Combined with even a simple case I would think this could at least help prevent water ingress through the sim tray.
I might do this since I am on our boat 3-4 times a week.
Combined with even a simple case I would think this could at least help prevent water ingress through the sim tray.
That's really the point. If it meets the standard claimed, it should be able to sit in a bucket of water for half an hour. If not, change the marketing claims.
People are equating water resistance to protection against drops. The water resistance is just that ... it protects against intrusion by water provided the phone is structurally sound. I've seen so many reports like this one where somebody drops a phone onto a hard surface that also happens have water in/around it and are shocked that the phone was damaged by water (eg. someone dropped their phone into the toilet and observed after that water got into the phone).
If the phone is dropped like that, it will have hit the bottom of the bucket, or the side, or rim, or something, likely causing physical damage to the phone, or even just shifting something internally enough to compromise a seal. And now, since it's sitting in water, your phone gets damaged.
The phone isn't magic: it requires an intact seal to protect against water damage and dropping the phone, especially onto a hard surface, definitely risks the integrity of that seal.
If the phone is dropped like that, it will have hit the bottom of the bucket, or the side, or rim, or something, likely causing physical damage to the phone, or even just shifting something internally enough to compromise a seal. And now, since it's sitting in water, your phone gets damaged.
The phone isn't magic: it requires an intact seal to protect against water damage and dropping the phone, especially onto a hard surface, definitely risks the integrity of that seal.
One thing to keep in mind is that there are points of failure on the iPhone or any device that has a connector, speaker grills, ear piece the buttons.
Which may be part of the reason why it's not a permanent condition.
Err on the side of caution with these things.
With Marketing and ads there is a level of suspension of disbelief. Like Little Wayne pouring champagne on a Samsung phone.
Which may be part of the reason why it's not a permanent condition.
Err on the side of caution with these things.
With Marketing and ads there is a level of suspension of disbelief. Like Little Wayne pouring champagne on a Samsung phone.
And then there's the similarly realistic possibility that the phone could have been damaged by liquid without hitting anything or as a result of anything that the user did (aside from the part of being exposed to liquid).
I agree, Apple should better the industry standard, not live by it. Sadly, if an IP68 phone doesn't cover liquid damage, an IP67 definitely wont
There are plenty of phones with the jack that are IP67, don't know where you got that the reason for the jack removal is that one.
Why do people leave a 1000$ item unattended and around 4 years old is beyond me!
Can you please point me where the warranty is misleading as you say?
It also is explicit in the main iPhone page...
- iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.
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tr.v. mis·led (-lĕd′), mis·lead·ing, mis·leads
To give a wrong impression or lead toward a wrong conclusion, especially by intentionally deceiving.
Seems they are pretty much not misleading you, not only they say that liquid damage it is not covered, but they specifically talk about splash and not submerging!
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no fine print warranty never misleading, but on keynote Mr Philip Schiller says 7:25 min " even less coordinated among of us do not worry.." if this is not misleading(because you don`t have any water damages cover) then excuse me but you are blind and deaf or shareholder
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If a feature isn't guaranteed to work then it isn't a feature. Like I've said from the start, treat your phone as if it doesn't have any water resistance. Should you be unlucky in the future and drop it down the toilet etc, then just hope and pray that your iPhone 7 is one of the better manufactured ones and actually has a proper IP 67 rating. Apple and Samsung et al really should tone down their marketing of this feature as a ton of people think their phones are not just temporarily water resistant on a good day, but that they're waterproof.
Shows the picture of a phone getting splashes ..... not submerged, talks about water proof and not water resistent (and don't even mention Warranty for a second).... yeah keep "insulting" (blind and deaf or shareholder) and don't think for a second you are at fault for being careless leaving 1000$ in the hands of a toddler!no fine print warranty never misleading, but on keynote Mr Philip Schiller says 7:25 min " even less coordinated among of us do not worry.." if this is not misleading(because you don`t have any water damages cover) then excuse me but you are blind and deaf or shareholder
I have been complaining about Apple a lot lately....and yes I am a shareholder, but I own so little that does it really make a difference???
Also Would me "advocating" for them change anything? No don't think so , they definetly have better lawyers than I could ever be!!!!!! Especially since I am not one
I am not blind because I can read and document myself before spending 1000$ I am not deaf and even if I was I could still read....
You got only yourself to blame my friend!
So by saying " even less coordinated among of us do not worry.." should they also cover all the people that drop it on cocrete?? Just saying!!
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Shows the picture of a phone getting splashes ..... not submerged, talks about water proof and not water resistent (and don't even mention Warranty for a second).... yeah keep "insulting" (blind and deaf or shareholder) and don't think for a second you are at fault for being careless leaving 1000$ in the hands of a toddler!
I have been complaining about Apple a lot lately....and yes I am a shareholder, but I own so little that does it really make a difference???
Also Would me "advocating" for them change anything? No don't think so , they definetly have better lawyers than I could ever be!!!!!! Especially since I am not one
I am not blind because I can read and document myself before spending 1000$ I am not deaf and even if I was I could still read....
You got only yourself to blame my friend!!
sorry if you feel offended in any way, I apologise to you, this was not my point!
My point is that companies (in this case Apple) deliberately misleading us (consumers and shareholders
) with their ads and false words to assume things that are untrue, and you can't do nothing.And one more thing this toddler operating on this phone in way I think you will get jealous.
And one more thing, you as shareholder can suggest to the board of directors to put age restriction on IPhone - do not use under 12 years old, or if you not enough coordinated!
Last one is a joke once again do not feel offended!
As much as I feel for your accident, still doesn't make it an Apple's fault, they never misled anyone into thinking that the warranty would cover water damage (get over it).sorry if you feel offended in any way, I apologise to you, this was not my point!
My point is that companies (in this case Apple) deliberately misleading us (consumers and shareholders
And one more thing this toddler operating on this phone in way I think you will get jealous.
And one more thing, you as shareholder can suggest to the board of directors to put age restriction on IPhone - do not use under 12 years old, or if you not enough coordinated!
Last one is a joke once again do not offend!
Won't even respond theto your other points, as I suspect your toddler is probably operating his brain in way I think you still have to achieve.
It's not about misleading people to think that it's covered by warranty, but it's misleading people to thinking that the phone can withstand certain situations that it clearly can't
I would agree with that reasoning if they said it can be submerged, they never did, they always talk about splashes and as said they are very careful to specify that water damage is not covered.
He was careless and I feel for him, I never let my kids / nephews touch my main device (it's the reason they have their toys, I will keep mine for myself
), because they are kids, and it happens (nor I get mad if I let them touch stuff and they brake it).Trying to blame someone else won't change the situation, changing the way he approaches / handles (or let someone else handle) expensive gadgets might prevent future issues, it is a process called growing and learning (something you never do if you blame someone else)!
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To prevent liquid damage, avoid these:
- Swimming or bathing with iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus
- Exposing iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus to pressurized water or high velocity water, such as when showering, water skiing, wake boarding, surfing, jet skiing, and so on
- Using iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus in a sauna or steam room
- Intentionally submerging iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus in water
- Operating iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus outside the suggested temperature ranges or in extremely humid conditions
- Dropping iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus or subjecting it to other impacts
- Disassembling iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus, including removing screws
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I would agree with that reasoning if they said it can be submerged, they never did, they always talk about splashes and as said they are very careful to specify that water damage is not covered.
He was careless and I feel for him, I never let my kids / nephews touch my main device (it's the reason they have their toys, I will keep mine for myself
Trying to blame someone else won't change the situation, changing the way he approaches / handles (or let someone else handle) expensive gadgets might prevent future issues, it is a process calle growing and learning (something you never do if you blame someone else)!
In terms of the OPs situation I somewhat share your sentiment but I can't really agree that Apple has no blame.
You are right in saying that Apple was careful enough to cover their own behinds, but I think there's enough in marketing material to suggest that they fully imply one can use the phone in situations where there is a continuous flow of water (i.e. rain, that has been explicitly depicted numerous times in its ads). The picture in question in the keynote shows a person holding an iphone in their hands about to be fully submerged in the pool, unless he can show some NFL style athleticism and throw the phone in the last second, it is surely going to be fully submerged.
The sheer fact that companies advertise IP67 and IP68 on their phones and yet don't cover liquid damage is ridiculous. You can't say the phone is certified to be submerged upto 30 min in a depth of up to 1m but refuse to stand by that claim.
Not arguing about the silliness, yes they are all coverying their behind as you suggest by refusing the warranty.
With that one I fully agree, but that's another story.
My point was, if you are the kind of person who watches a keynote, you are definetly informed, and I am sure that even the best lawyer in the world would not be able to use a keynote as a proof.....
Unless the phone manufacturers devise some cheap sensor that shows water depth and immersion time, they will never be able to know if someone spilt a cup of coffee on their phone and quickly wiped it off, or whether they went scuba diving. Hence how can they guarantee the IP67 rating when they have no idea if it has been abused.
I'm sure that in theory you could apply the liquid damage sticker so that it only starts turning red after a certain amount of time. If IP67 says 30min in 1m of water then make it change colour after 25 min let's say.
I know that that's pretty much what they do now when they check the liquid damage sticker inside the sim tray, perhaps an interesting experiment would be to see under what circumstances the sticker gets flagged.