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As a former Galaxy S6 owner, I can tell you the level of clarity, vividness, contrast and overall image quality is much better on the Samsung compared to my Apple iPhone 6S. It's not even close.
It's all about subpixels. That is why Pentile got such a bad name in early OLED displays. It was tech developed to reduce screen burn at at the expense of image quality. Basically it has 2/3 the subpixel as a true RGB display.
They were forced to drive up resolution to maintain decent image quality.
If you compare the Note 7 to an IPhone 7+, you see about a 10% advantage of subpixels but it has to work the GPU twice as hard to obtain that slight advantage.
 
My eyesight is just fine, better than 20/20. My issue you guys all take is calling everyone a "fanboy" if they disagree with your assessment that it isn't good unless it has X DPI or X CPUs or this or that. You just seem really bitter that some people prefer something you do not. Why? Is it really that big of an issue if someone does? Again, it just seems to me there are so many bitter people that just can't get over the fact that others don't find important what they find important.

The only thing I have seen the race for higher DPI improve is VR. The issue with that is most people don't care about VR at this point, who knows if they will down the road either, it may remain a niche industry. Once you pass a certain point on a smaller screen it just doesn't matter. Sure, Apple will push out a higher DPI down the road, that's how things progress. Apple doesn't seem to care to be in the technology arms race because obviously their customers for the most part don't see a benefit to it. Our phones perform just fine, look just fine and do all that we need them to do. I prefer that they wait and let things be ironed out before adopting the next thing without knowing if it will be useful or not. Perfect example is HTC with the Thunderbolt, released a front facing camera with not a single piece of software that supported its use. I, and many others do not "need" to be at the front of all things technology, there are many issues being there.

Like what you like, use what you like, calling people fanboys because they disagree with you just makes you seem bitter and small minded.

Wow, I must have hit a nerve! Why can't you accept that Apple's flagship iPhone isn't the leader on every front? I can be happy with my 6 Plus despite knowing that there are devices out there that beat it at practically everything. See that's what I'm talking about regarding fanbois, they just have to have Apple ahead in everything that matters, so if Apple are behind on some tech then it's explained away as "not signficant".

So you think I was putting down your eyesight even though I gave an alternate explanation: "So if you're eyesight isn't good enough, or your usage pattern doesn't take advantage of it." See what I did there? I included a clause that includes the people use their devices in ways that make high dpi displays meaningless! And that's wonderful, it means that pixel density has finally advanced to a place that satisfies many users. What an exciting time to be alive, eh? But the other side of the coin is that some people can benefit from even greater dpi, and that's great too because it drives technology to greater heights. So just because YOU don't benefit from a certain technology doesn't mean that nobody else does. Accept it and move on with your life.
 
Nope.

As a former Galaxy S6 owner, I can tell you the level of clarity, vividness, contrast and overall image quality is much better on the Samsung compared to my Apple iPhone 6S. It's not even close.

The apparent extra "vividness" and "contrast" of most of the Galaxy phones is exaggerated because they tend towards oversaturation. Like most features of smart phones, whether that makes a difference to you is all that matters. The problem with oversaturation is that sometimes things just look wrong. Trump is noticeably more orange, for example. Maybe that's okay with you. However, if you have a lot of friends who lean towards orange, they're going to look wrong on your phone vs. what you see in real life. On the flip side... if you take a lot of pictures of fruit, you might appreciate a bit of oversaturation to make the fruit look more "vivid".

The thing is, a lot of photographers when they edit their photos will kick up the saturation, contrast, clarity, etc., a little for just that reason. So when you look at edited photos... you get double dipping on the saturation. But at any rate... if you look at Displaymate's tests on the S7 and S7 Edge, you'll see that they have JCND 1.6. Worse than the iPhone 7. So... *shrugs* Again, it really comes down to your own personal taste. I prefer Apple's methodology of trying to get closer to accurate to Samsung's method of artificially making the screen look 'better' by making it less accurate. Many will not care.
 
Samsung display is still better. Apple has took LCD as far as it can take it...now, it's time to switch to amoled...its matured enough now.

Except that is not what the reviewers said. They said in several metrics the iPhone was better than ANY other smartphone. OLED has some nice advantages for a phone, but Apple is still among the very best displays.
 
Not that I had any bad experiences with reflectivity but what could be the reason Apple didn't include this coating on the iPhone? They seem to do have the technology.

My guess is that it's not cheap and an iPad needs it more being that it is likely to be used lying flat, compared to an iPhone that is being held.
 
Meanwhile Displaymate class the Note 7 as having the best display ever fitted to ANY mobile device including the iPhone 7.
Such a shame early reports indicate OLED screens will only be for the special edition giant phone slab Apple will launch next year.
I think LCD has had its day now.

I thought display mate said iPhone 7 was the best.
Can't wait until mine arrives.
When are you getting yours?
 
The entire "clock/battery/carrier" bar is persistent. The unlock screen/menu is persistent. Countless UI widgets in software are persistent (think about the spanner/hamburger button.) It's taken several years to get my old Samsung TN screen that I'm still using to a state where I'm considering replacing it because the top inch of the screen keeps having persistence problems due to... UI widgets.

That's the thing about OLED though, it takes weeks for burn-in to appear, and it can't be wiped out by simply changing the pixel configuration (eg a solid black/white screen.) Burn-in is pretty much identical to how CRT's burn in, it's burned into the screen itself.

This is why I'm skeptical of Apple going OLED. It offers better performance but at a cost in reliability. As someone who updates my iPhone every 3 years I'm not sure OLED is for me. But if you update every year then sure, OLED will rock.
 
Wow, I must have hit a nerve! Why can't you accept that Apple's flagship iPhone isn't the leader on every front? I can be happy with my 6 Plus despite knowing that there are devices out there that beat it at practically everything. See that's what I'm talking about regarding fanbois, they just have to have Apple ahead in everything that matters, so if Apple are behind on some tech then it's explained away as "not signficant".

So you think I was putting down your eyesight even though I gave an alternate explanation: "So if you're eyesight isn't good enough, or your usage pattern doesn't take advantage of it." See what I did there? I included a clause that includes the people use their devices in ways that make high dpi displays meaningless! And that's wonderful, it means that pixel density has finally advanced to a place that satisfies many users. What an exciting time to be alive, eh? But the other side of the coin is that some people can benefit from even greater dpi, and that's great too because it drives technology to greater heights. So just because YOU don't benefit from a certain technology doesn't mean that nobody else does. Accept it and move on with your life.
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I could be wrong but I am pretty sure they are measuring it based on how it displays color and accuracy of colors. I do not know the scale but lets say that 10.0 was perfect, the iphone must rate at a 9.999 or something close. Correct me if I am wrong though anyone who knows what they actually mean, but I took it to mean that there testing has established that X measurement is perfect and the new iphone is very close.

It's a comparison of what is real to what you are seeing on the screen. So if you take a picture of a tree, and hold the picture next to the tree, it's almost perfect in color match.
 
Another thing that annoys me a great deal with AMOLED screen is that they have to use "Pulse Width Modulation" to control brightness, which effectively means that they are rapidly flashing the screen to make it dimmer when you turn down the brightness.

While not everyone can perceive this (unless you tell them), PWM makes AMOLED screens flicker constantly when they're not at full brightness. I can easily spot AMOLED screens from afar, not because of contrast ratio or over saturated colors, but because when I blink or move my eyes quickly the flicker is very noticeable to me and would probably give me a headache from prolonged use.

Very interesting. I have noticed that myself but didn't realize it was part of the "technology".
 
I was always a proponent of "reasonable resolution" displays. Anything much over 300 PPI, what Apple calls the "retina" display, just can't be distinguished by the human eye at normal reading distance. Phones with higher resolution displays simply don't provide much benefit to the TYPICAL user, and suffer from greater challenges with:
  • Battery life
  • Screen refresh rate (jerky, "stepped" motions of on-screen elements)
  • Memory consumption
  • Heat generation
  • Cost
Refresh rate is my biggest concern: Packing more pixels on the display means it takes longer to draw that screen (without a corresponding increase in graphics chip horsepower). This causes ultra-high-resolution phones to sometimes feel somewhat "jerky" compared to lower-resolution counterparts.

One application that higher PPI can really benefit is VR. Strap an iPhone 7 Plus into a pair of VR goggles and you can see the patterning or "screen door" effect due to the magnification of the optics. The recent Samsung Galaxy S and Note series, > 500 PPI, do better. And Sony's Xperia X5 Premium at 4k (800 PPI) is really spectacular.

Fortunately the endless march of technology is providing solutions to the above problems. 4K will eventually come to iPhone, too. Until then, don't even think twice about it unless you use your phone in VR goggles.
 
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That's one review of a hand picked sample. A lot of MR readers would say otherwise. I.e. worse than the 6 series on their phone.

Basically this review means jack. Too many new ip7 owners are complaining of yellow dim screens. This review sounds more like a paid ad from Apple.

That's right - the super super advanced review with tons of scientific equipment, tables, charts and data - that means JACK! I see where you are going with this.
 
Unless you're a photographer who cares a lot about color and accuracy when editing photographs. If you're not very fussy, then it probably doesn't matter as much.
You keep screaming you're a photographer... and you care about accuracy. Then why aren't you using a phone that supports Adobe RGB Color Gamut? You know, the color gamut that is 17% larger than the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut. The same Adobe RGB Color Gamut used in higher end photography.

I mean a fussy photographer would care.;) You're probably not very fussy, so it probably doesn't matter as much.:rolleyes:
 
But..........AMOLED.

Galaxy Note 7 fires, iPhone 7 selling like crazy and now the best screen. The Apple haters are pulling their hair out. How is this possible? Something's wrong in the universe.
 
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But but but SAMSUNG! Galaxy!!!!!

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If you want oversaturated gaudy colours then go for the Samsung.
Having seen one of my photos on both phones over the weekend and compared them to my calibrated iLyama display the Samsung is dog poo.

Back in the days of film, we described Fuji as the film for the Beach where the kids were playing with a red ball under a blue sky.
OTOH, Kodachrome was the one where colour accuracy was needed.
Seeing that picture on the phones reminded me of those days.
 
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Wow, I must have hit a nerve! Why can't you accept that Apple's flagship iPhone isn't the leader on every front? I can be happy with my 6 Plus despite knowing that there are devices out there that beat it at practically everything. See that's what I'm talking about regarding fanbois, they just have to have Apple ahead in everything that matters, so if Apple are behind on some tech then it's explained away as "not signficant".

So you think I was putting down your eyesight even though I gave an alternate explanation: "So if you're eyesight isn't good enough, or your usage pattern doesn't take advantage of it." See what I did there? I included a clause that includes the people use their devices in ways that make high dpi displays meaningless! And that's wonderful, it means that pixel density has finally advanced to a place that satisfies many users. What an exciting time to be alive, eh? But the other side of the coin is that some people can benefit from even greater dpi, and that's great too because it drives technology to greater heights. So just because YOU don't benefit from a certain technology doesn't mean that nobody else does. Accept it and move on with your life.

I think you're missing my point. I don't care one little bit if Apple is the king of something or not. I'm not going to go on and on because it's obvious I am not explaining my point. I find it to be an exciting time to be alive but for different reasons. Have a good one.
 
Samsung display is still better. Apple has took LCD as far as it can take it...now, it's time to switch to amoled...its matured enough now.

Actually, the next step is microLED or mLED. It is 30x brighter than OLED, doesn't have burn in, and has a much longer life span. Apple bought the company that produces it about 2 years ago...with that in mind, do you really believe Apple is ever going to switch to amoled?
 
Not that I had any bad experiences with reflectivity but what could be the reason Apple didn't include this coating on the iPhone? They seem to do have the technology.

It's in the the article - carrying the phone in your pocket and the specifics of smartphone usage scenarios preclude the possibility of applying the current anti reflective coating as being easily scratched.
Still it's a viable option for tablets as you only seldom let your cat play the occasional game on it, right?
Heck, after taking the screen protector off my 6 plus for a day I've already had a fair share of micro abrasions and I don't live on a beach.

Remember the whole coating issues on Retina MBPs?
 
Wow, I must have hit a nerve! Why can't you accept that Apple's flagship iPhone isn't the leader on every front? I can be happy with my 6 Plus despite knowing that there are devices out there that beat it at practically everything. See that's what I'm talking about regarding fanbois, they just have to have Apple ahead in everything that matters, so if Apple are behind on some tech then it's explained away as "not signficant".

So you think I was putting down your eyesight even though I gave an alternate explanation: "So if you're eyesight isn't good enough, or your usage pattern doesn't take advantage of it." See what I did there? I included a clause that includes the people use their devices in ways that make high dpi displays meaningless! And that's wonderful, it means that pixel density has finally advanced to a place that satisfies many users. What an exciting time to be alive, eh? But the other side of the coin is that some people can benefit from even greater dpi, and that's great too because it drives technology to greater heights. So just because YOU don't benefit from a certain technology doesn't mean that nobody else does. Accept it and move on with your life.

It's interesting that you say this because the Android fanbase said the same thing about the first Retina display - that it didn't matter.
 
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Back in the days of film, we described Fuji as the film for the Beach where the kids were playing with a red ball under a blue sky.
OTOH, Kodachrome was the one where colour accuracy was needed.
Seeing that picture on the phones reminded me of those days.

Many people consider over-processing and HDR to be attractive. I think we've just reached a point in time where people have to be blown away by everything or else it doesn't mean anything to them.
 
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