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iPhone 7's Lack of 'Compelling' Features Convinced Most Galaxy Note7 Owners to Stay With Samsung
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I wasn't asking for it at all nor did I care when it was announced. But after using it, it's just so much louder that I can't go back
Some of those I could do without, but for your example, what was lost for those additions?
To get better speakers for the 7, the headphone jack was lost, but I cannot think of anything that was given up for Siri, Airdrop, 3d Touch, or Touch ID.
Well, I guess for Touch ID, the little box on the home button was removed, but that is all I can think of.
I understand Apple's new campus was Jobs brain child fulfilled by TC, but, yes. That building + current product decisions, especially regarding Mac, longtime Mac staff like Sal Soghoian, and peripherals like monitors and Airport paints a picture of a company too big to be concerned with anything but the bottom line. If Apple was honest with itself and customers it would spin off the Mac line as an automomous subsidiary like it did with Claris and ARM and sell a substantial stake to the staff of the Mac Division.
Nothing, that's not the point.
The headphone jack is dying, end of story.
Somehow in 3 years time when no phones have headphone jacks I don't think people will be bitching endlessly about it....
With respect, you really don't understand Apple at all if you think this. The bottom line is a consequence of what they do, it is certainly not the driver for what they do. There are many great books our there from past and present execs and industry experts which will confirm this if you take the time to inform yourself.
How is that the point?
There were plenty of people that were upset about the jack removal, but I don't think anyone was upset about the additions you mentioned. So, no it is not the same.
As for me, I would prefer the jack (vs better speakers), but it is not a deal killer for me. The only time that not having the jack would bother me is while driving and having to choose between the lightning EarPods, and my headunit, and that adapter would probably fix that issue.
There are many other reasons I wouldn't upgrade to the 7, other than the jack.
Customer lack of advanced processing features convinced them that there was nothing to learn, and no patterns to change, from their experience.
At this point if you make a phone at the bleeding edge of tech for multiple years. Your product can't be improved upon. How exactly are you supposed to wow people, with nothing new to put in the device. The problem is not apples design but the tech reaching maturity now.
Samsung also has seen many people not upgrade because of lack of new features. Switching is a big deal for many. Android offers many features ios doesn't, the hardware isn't really the stickiness it's software, and services.
Samsung also has seen many people not upgrade because of lack of new features. Switching is a big deal for many. Android offers many features ios doesn't, the hardware isn't really the stickiness it's software, and services.
One could make an alternative case that Apple has been the "premium" phone brand since 2007 and that is why, when they do come out with something boring like the iPhone 7 -- not the Plus -- the 4.7 7. Massive disappointment is prevalent. Apple is the leader which is why people have such high expectations of it and Google is afforded such a low bar.
The 7 plus is a nice phone, but not really an exciting one. Personally, I hemmed and hawed on sticking with the 4.7 or jumping to the 5.5 because I am jealous of the Plus's camera. Ultimately, the Plus was not practical for me in daily use. I'm a member of the Trump hands club and need to multitask, operating a phone with one hand. I can't do that with the Plus. Aside from my battery not quickly dying, the 7 doesn't feel much different than the 6 other than the haptic feedback, which I like, and the slightly better screen, but not resolution. So, yes, I think Apple can and should do better, and also not focus on one size to pack all the good features into.
I've never needed to listen to music while charging. Most people charge at night before they go sleep and/or you're probably near a computer when you're charging so you can listen on that (which is probably a better experience since it's easier to find your music). That covers a majority of the users.
I rather have longer battery life than the ability to charge while listening to music. That's much more important.
"Well why not just make the iPhone thicker?". I agree that I would rather just have a thicker phone with a thicker battery and Jony Ive should just GTFO, but you're still using a port that takes up way too much space, space that could be used for something much more important.
Regarding the Macbook Pro: that puzzled me at first, but the only reason I can think of is that it does not provide a much better user experience removing the headphone jack. You probably would see 5 minutes of increased battery life and that's not more important than worrying about yet another adapter.
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All beyond possibly going into 17 without major trade offs.
exactly, I don't understand why this is hard for mac rumors users to comprehend.
not that big of a deal. better battery life is much much much more important.
I'll bet your family cannot tell the difference between the 5s, SE, 6 (any version), or 7 (any version) holiday pictures just by looking at them. That is my point, a snapshot today is just a snapshot. Carrying an iPhone 7 camera does not mean anything, unless your just a techie that needs the latest tech for bragging rights.
As a proud owner of ip7+, i can't say enough how understated the 2x optical zoom lens has an impact on mobile photography. It has made my photography experience much more flexible and enjoyable
It's remarkable that Apple worked with carriers to GIVE AWAY PHONES FOR FREE and still didn't attract many switchers. Never in the history of the iPhone has Apple allowed carriers to give away phones this early. I only upgraded because ATT pretty much gave me mine free and I was worried that my 6 would get that display issue.
To you. A lot of people, including me disagree. I'm on my third headphone dongle because the damn things keep going missing.
To you. A lot of people, including me disagree. I'm on my third headphone dongle because the damn things keep going missing.
Who cares ... everyone has their own smartphone taking their own snapshots forming their own memories ... and for the record the 7 with the improved aperture and now with OIS is way past anything Apple put out previously.
What staff. You really think there are any left. Internally they have known about Macs being left behind for years, any of the good staff have bid off to work on new stuff, else Apple will just up and fire them like they have done in the past.
I actually like Apple's eco-system. As someone that has been using Apple products for a long time, it was easy for me to embrace it.
But, with the questionable future of the Mac desktop, I have been looking into some alternatives. Leaving Apple's eco-system is going to be painfully hard.
Why don't you wait to see the next desktop lineup before buying something? I mean, by all means look around, but wait.
I'm no longer as enamoured as I once was BUT I will say that a simple app like iMessage allowed my Mom to be part of the family on an instant basis ... she loved getting travel photos from her kids and grand kids and being in the daily loop.
The correct "polite" insult, is with all due respect.
And, yes, I fully understand Apple as well as any far outsider can. I've followed it for 30 years, been a shareholder for 16. Bought hundreds of thousands of $ worth of equipment in that timespan. There are pro and con arguments for Apple keeping Mac and spinning it off. Both are honest, neither 100% clean or perfect. My belief Apple should spin off Mac is not original. There are many well respected tech and Mac observers who have made the case for this. So please don't tell me that I am wrong simply because you disagree or there are others that disagree. There are arguments to be made on both sides here. Being on one side or the other doesn't, by default, make one, ignorant of the related facts.
Mac revenue is now LESS than iTunes media store revenue. Mac marketshare is, again, under 10%. Apple has shuttered Mac automation, it's other projects like HomeKit and Siri have fewer features on the Mac than iOS, and the Mac cannot even act as a HomeKit hub while an iPad or $140 ATV4 can. If we are to believe stories, Apple routinely pulls engineers off Mac projects to finish iOS projects, because that is where Apple's fortunes are, not Mac. iOS has long functioned independently of Mac, and, in fact, Apple encourages users to backup and update via iCloud. Mac is simply not a significant part of Apple anymore -- plenty of respected tech pundits, and others "in the know" have commented on this. So, yes, I believe Mac would be better off as an semiautonomous company that can go back to it's roots and make insanely great computers for people who want something like that. Do you remember the Mac clone days when the clones were better than Apple's own Macs?
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Sure, but Apple had to make a decision about that, right?