Glad they have fixed the hardware flaw that was in the 6 and 6S. I'm not sure why they aren't doing a recall and fixing those devices. I never thought I'd see the day where Samsung is more trustworthy.
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iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and X Batteries Less Impacted by Performance Management
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Yes , you are correct, no company is perfect. But DON'T TRY AND HIDE IT WHEN IT'S ALREADY OUT IN THE PUBLIC'S EYE. That's exactly what Apple is doing. Denying that there is any issue, other than the battery is OLD. And even then, they would not do that.
It is about time a new law is passed to make manufactures allow customers to remove and replace batteries, no more integrated batteries as that leads to so many iPhone and others tossed away into landfills, Apple could easily have a removable back or front designed to be removed, instead of everything glued and sealed down
Really? Do a simple search for "battery issue shutdown" + phone model and you will find tons of threads about this happening to pretty much any android. Like this one:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/322719-galaxy-s4-shuts-down-randomly.html
One of many, many examples.
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I’m referring to the issue of batteries putting lives at risk which is far worse than this. You will forgive that but will keep beating this horse though.
Yes, indeed. Apple would be happy to just continue to release the same old model...but it's these pesky consumers that keep demanding more from them! Apple would be satisfied with marketing their phones as "kinda good" but consumers have forced them to call them magical! And, Apple tries so hard to make these things magical for the sake of consumers (not sales). Then, it's Apple's fault for making a terrible design decision??!?!? (Yes.) And Apple is "bad" for updating software to compensate for where the hardware fails (rather than finding another solution...there are others...)? Yep, this is all just a matter of you can't keep everyone happy.
That is inaccurate. No one knows how many phones were impacted because it is battery dependent (or else a new battery wouldn't fix it). Some batteries are more degraded than others.
We desperately need new battery tech. Lithium ion has been around since the 90s and despite improving a lot since then there are obviously still limitations. I totally understand why Apple felt the need to throttle performance when the processor starts to demand more than the battery can provide. Processors are starting to push the limits of our 20+ year old battery tech. They just should have been up front about it from the start.
Somebody needs to step up to the plate and push a new chemistry into commercialization so we can move on to higher capacities and longer lifecycles.
Somebody needs to step up to the plate and push a new chemistry into commercialization so we can move on to higher capacities and longer lifecycles.
I've owned every iPhone before the 6 and never had this issue. Can you share articles of pre-iPhone 6 iPhones randomly crashing?
Both my 3gs and 4s had these battery issues once the batteries were old. I always thought it was a feature as it told me to go change the battery in both...
Same Here, but since the iPhone3.
I have never had ANY issues with the battery draining during ANY day, nor any shutdowns EVER!!! on ANY iPhone from the iPhone 3, 4, 5 AND including the 6 - BUT Once I updated to iOS11....! There was something in iOS11 that killed my Battery... & Caused major 20 second delays on all my devices...
BTW, I didn't even have a charger at work, nor car!!!! But I had to bring one in now.
I even had to suffer thru a low battery and huge stress because I didn't have a charger at a remote location, when waiting for someone to call or text when arriving from the east coast...
The WORST part, besides having a buggy inferior device, is that they still don't have Batteries (for me), nor the intelligence to fix the actually unusable devices like mine with any kind of priority!
It would be great if it was 1000 cycles but the iPhone battery is only rated for 500 cycles.
Well if they did, they would once again be copying Samsung:
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-develops-battery-material-with-5x-faster-charging-speed
Not only can they charge faster, they don't degrade near as fast, so it is a win/win proposition. Oh and they are cheaper to boot. Of course given the issues with Note 7, you know they are going to be very careful with testing before releasing these, but I would imagine we will see them in 1-2 years in mobile phones and hopefully electric vehicles soon after that considering they are saying that 20 minutes worth of charge time on this type of battery would provide 430 miles or so of driving time. Another win for them is that they are more environmentally friendly, so all around it will be a good thing.
I believe it has to do with design choice. They have to choose between small physical size, high mah rating, or longer cycle rating. Pick any two. They chose to go with a denser battery in exchange for longevity. I think all small batteries are similar to this.
Perhaps Apple should talk to Tesla-Panasonic to source their batteries that retain about 95% at 500 cycles and 80%+ at 3000 cycles. Better yet, fire Tim Cook and put Elon Musk in charge.
This is not true, the 4s and 5/5c also suffer from this. I don't know about SE, but since SE shares the same internals as 6s I also assume this model suffers from it too.
You're right, Android will simply shut down instead, which is what iOS is attempting to avoid.
My GF's LG G5 will simply shut off suddenly at about 16% battery left.
That's a much better user experience!
Seriously, I don't understand why people don't understand that most phones and other devices use the same type of battery technology, after a few years unexpected shutdowns are going to happen, doesn't matter if it's a Apple or a Samsung or any other brand, if it's using lithium-ion battery's it will degrade to the point of not being able to send enough electricity eventually no matter what device it's in.
The only reason Apple is getting hate for this situation is they actively did something to combat it and didn't tell us the downsides to the solution, of course they should have made it a option too like they are doing now, though I don't like the fact it switches itself on again after another shutdown, should be manually off or on.
Perhaps this is intentional!? As we see the upheaval from a "supposed" flaw, or whatever Apple is categorizing this as. It's almost like battery replacement never enters the mind of the average iPhone user, as witnessed by the shortage. If it was normal or well practiced... Shouldn't there be an abundance of available batteries!? Something just isn't adding up.
Better battery tech means less upgrades, and I'm not sure that's something manufactures want!?
I don't think battery gate is over by far... With implications to get much worse.
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Wait you have to pay them to ship a product they should have in stock... WTH!?
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This isn't necessarily true. I remember my iPhone 5s on iOS 7.x and 8.x shutting down around 30%-40% consistently until I got the battery replaced. (No throttling as 5s never got that)
My iPhone 4 and 5 also shut down unexpectedly at various percentages, so I call bs on iPhone 6-series only being affected.
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I can share a testimonial of all of my previous iPhones since 2007 doing the exact same thing due to a worn out battery.
I can even tell you my feature phone Nokias did it.