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"For devices that have degraded batteries that are causing performance issues, replacing the battery solves the problem."

Math checks out.

For devices that have new batteries and new devices that are still super-duper slow, continuing to focus on power management and not the updates that are causing performance issues, doesn't really solve the problem.
 
"Installing iOS 11.3 will turn off any current performance management features on older devices, and it will only be re-implemented if and when a device experiences an unexpected shutdown"

(Auto-correct had different interpretation)

This sounds like informing people just before a phone shuts down.. They won't have time to take action.

So, if the new Battery information is of any help... it should stay at said percentage even if the phone is factory restored.
 
My iPhone 4 and 5 also shut down unexpectedly at various percentages, so I call bs on iPhone 6-series only being affected.
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I can share a testimonial of all of my previous iPhones since 2007 doing the exact same thing due to a worn out battery.
I can even tell you my feature phone Nokias did it.

If that's the case and it was a widespread issue like it is on the iPhone 6/6s then why haven't we heard about it and why didn't Apple release throttling logic for it back then?
 
Honestly expecting the "Apple was forcing us to upgrade" idiots to have an issue with this.

because Apple should upgrade everyone to the better system because otherwise its not fair some people have better systems than others because thats discrimination because other people cant have a better phone than me because that makes me feel bad because ....
 
This feature is not a permanent toggle that you can disable once and forget about it. If you never want to be throttled, you will have to go back into the Battery Health screen and repeatedly disable it each time.'


Well thats comforting

Honestly, I think that's a good choice. Otherwise you'd probably get caught in a restart loop.
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Both my 3gs and 4s had these battery issues once the batteries were old. I always thought it was a feature as it told me to go change the battery in both...

I've never seen a prompt like that on any of my iPhones! I have seen one like it on my MacBook Air, though.
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If that's the case and it was a widespread issue like it is on the iPhone 6/6s then why haven't we heard about it and why didn't Apple release throttling logic for it back then?

Because prior to the iPhone 6, the Apple SoC couldn't do throttle like this.
 
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So your new $1000.00 iphone x will be slowing down in the coming years just because its battery has been degradred??? I've been using iphone's since 2010 and trust me every time there is a new iphone released, my old phone starts to have problems. "Planned obsolescence" is what apple is doing, they don't really care about customers.

Just try an iphone 3 or 3gs with its current ios and its decades old battery and see how smooth it is, because they didn't do it back then. FYI my dad's using a galaxy s5 bought back in 2015 and it still works smoothly. performance throttling in the name of battery issues is just a marketing gimmick.

I have been using iphones all these days mainly because of its music app and itunes, but since the headphone jack has gone and all these performance throttling stuff is going on, I think its time for me to switch to other alternatives.
 
That's because this is all a cover up for faulty batteries and power management chips that were used in the 6,6s, and 7 iPhones.

No iPhones before these suffered from random shut downs and reboots.

Those “faulty” batteries and “power management” chips were designed for planned obsolescence plain and simple. This is a massive crime by Apple. They need strong new leadership which will not bend to money and surveillance / social engineering interests.
 
You're right, Android will simply shut down instead, which is what iOS is attempting to avoid.
My GF's LG G5 will simply shut off suddenly at about 16% battery left.

That's a much better user experience! :rolleyes:
I had a similar experience with my Xperia Z1. Just randomly shuts down and unable to accept charge right away. Worse, Sony refuse to even look at the phone for support.
But that's perfectly fine for people, apparently. Heck, Android OEMs can sell devices with known security vulnerabilities that they won't patch, and it's a-okay.
 
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That's because this is all a cover up for faulty batteries and power management chips that were used in the 6,6s, and 7 iPhones.

No iPhones before these suffered from random shut downs and reboots.

You got to love conspiracy theories!
Btw, I still have an iPhone 4s at home, which If I unplug it from the charge, drops to around 50% battery in a matter of minutes and then it shuts down. I guess it does not take a genius to know why that happens on a over 6 year old phone.
 
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Well I’m not going to update my iPhone 8 Plus beyond iOS 12. the only reason I bought it is because iOS 11 managed to destroy my iPhone 6 and slow it down to the point that texting is difficult. And I don’t buy this battery reason- I had the whole phone replaced by Apple in February 2017 and it was slow as soon as I got it. How about don’t give us updates that slow down our phones, or give us the option of downgrading? Then again, I bought another iPhone as a result... so why would they?
 
The only reason Apple is getting hate for this situation is they actively did something to combat it and didn't tell us the downsides to the solution, of course they should have made it a option too like they are doing now, though I don't like the fact it switches itself on again after another shutdown, should be manually off or on.

Well, its hard to fully speculate on something marked as a Beta feature and how it will look in the end, but...

Think of the protection as more of a 'check engine light' - it is meant to be switched off when you actually think you *fixed* the problem.

The issue is that its not unexpected shutdowns, its unexpected power loss. These phones have a full operating system capable of disk corruption and data loss just like any other computer when power is suddenly cut. Continuing to use the phone in the face of random power loss without making some change is a recipe for a fun future of data loss and DFU restores.

Not to mention, if the battery is failing it will only get worse over time, and can get worse in non-ideal temperatures. So requiring to get back into the OS to switch the "help keep my phone from randomly dying" option on could mean that you are without your phone in some emergency, like a car break-down in the middle of a blizzard.
 
As I suspected, especially for the X, I will be able to buy one knowing it shouldn’t be crippled too much and hopefully it has a Qualcomm modem to the cellular works! But you get what you get with that.
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Patently false. The problem is a common one since the OG iPhone.

Hmmm really? Of the 12 iOS devices we’ve had in my house, not ONE has ever shutdown with its battery charge at 20 or 30% they all turned off when it reached zero.. so I’m not sure I buy this ‘common problem’ analogy.
 
They're also only a couple months old so the battery hasn't degraded to the point of models more than a year old now. We know most batteries start heading downhill after about a year or 1000 charges.

The iPhone batteries are only specified for 500 charge cycles, and will quickly start going downhill at 500, or even before 500 in some cases (my wifes iPhone 7 with 400 charge cycles shuts down randomly in cold weather).

Only the MacBook Pro, Apple Watch and AirPods have batteries that are specified to handle 1000 charge cycles.
 
Lol thank god for these new advanced features

Absolutely. The random shutdowns have impacted me personally on a 3GS, 4, 4S, 5 and 5S. I wish they could have been throttled down; I only used the 4 and 4S as test devices.
 
Absolutely. The random shutdowns have impacted me personally on a 3GS, 4, 4S, 5 and 5S. I wish they could have been throttled down; I only used the 4 and 4S as test devices.

I was sarcastic, had many iPhones and never any shutdown.

Had an Apple Watch shutdown once, was replaced under Apple Care because Apple admited it was defective.

Nowadays they charge the user for their defective batteries.
 
You're basing this on what? And why was the throttling added to the iPhone 6 a full two years after it was released?

Because it's a hardware feature of the A8. Why added it when it was needed? Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say because it was needed.
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I was sarcastic, had many iPhones and never any shutdown.

Sarcasm is a lazy excuse later for putting aside correctness.
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Had an Apple Watch shutdown once, was replaced under Apple Care because Apple admited it was defective.

Me too! It was under Apple's cycle count.
 
.....Sometimes I really with an EMP would come and destroy all of these devices which force us to realize that these devices for some are using them rather than the person using the device.
I fully understand that you don't really want that scenario to enfold. Consider the following: depending on the severity of the blast, we could truly be back to the stone age. No mass manufacturing of food, medicine, clothing, etc. No provision of crucially essential, potable water to the masses. No computers, cell phones, elevators, air traffic, radio, tv, telex, land-line phones, electric lighting, or utility-provided heating in winter. No petrochemical production, no heavy machinery, cars, trucks, buses, or shipping lines. No hospitals, no dialysis or other life-saving treatments or procedures, no jails, modern schools, printing presses, etc. No police depts, fire depts, functioning government, records of ownership or banking records of money held in accounts, modern armies, etc.

Just anarchy and every man for himself until the tiny quantity of hoarded stuff runs out and 95% of the population perishes in an estimated 6-9 months. When only the hardiest, most-fit might survive a little longer on bare-bones necessities, seeking shelter in caves.

If a major EMP wave were to hit North America, it's curtains for society as we now know it. Too horrific to even contemplate. A time when the living may very well envy the dead.
 
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The only reason Apple is getting hate for this situation is they actively did something to combat it and didn't tell us the downsides to the solution, of course they should have made it a option too like they are doing now, though I don't like the fact it switches itself on again after another shutdown, should be manually off or on.
What that new phones have better batteries than old ones ? Please feel free to correct me if you think that is wrong....
With all their patents, stellar amounts spent on R&D and prominence Apple by now should have applied graphene batteries that perform 10x better. But no, they are just milking and milking current tech and designing all idiot batt. mgt. chips just to accomodate their compromises.
All because they must continue the biggest (instead of the best) business in the world.
We customers deserve more for those staggering prices and shouldn't be asking rhetorical non-questions about other slow, incumbent mammoth multi-nationals that dominate this industry far too much...

Now imagine how much easier the life of zillions of customers and Apple PR, logistics, planning, service would have been if 1 single Iviot had been properly silenced and forced to apply replaceable batteries a couple of years ago (...)
 
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Well, my old iPhone 5 did shut down from 50% of battery when it was cold outside and the battery was close to two years old. After getting a new battery the problem was gone.
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Same Here, but since the iPhone3.

I have never had ANY issues with the battery draining during ANY day, nor any shutdowns EVER!!! on ANY iPhone from the iPhone 3, 4, 5 AND including the 6 - BUT Once I updated to iOS11....! There was something in iOS11 that killed my Battery... & Caused major 20 second delays on all my devices...

BTW, I didn't even have a charger at work, nor car!!!! But I had to bring one in now.

I even had to suffer thru a low battery and huge stress because I didn't have a charger at a remote location, when waiting for someone to call or text when arriving from the east coast...

The WORST part, besides having a buggy inferior device, is that they still don't have Batteries (for me), nor the intelligence to fix the actually unusable devices like mine with any kind of priority!
Same here. I never had any problems with my battery(i always start charging them at 35-40% and stop at around 80%). No shutdowns at 20%, 10%, 5% - ever. And then Apple came along and said "Well it appears as if your battery isnt good enough for us anymore!" and started throttling my phone to the point that even the most basic apps are lagging like i'm using a phone from 2010.
 
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