Here's the other reason why 8's aren't selling. Most retail outlets didn't order them. They have signs up everywhere but go try and buy one? I went to 3 different ATT stores just to see what their inventory was. All said the same thing, had 20 of each phone.. that's all. Hmm.. can't sell what you don't order. They said the X is what they have orders for. I laughed at 2 managers who said that.. they aren't getting any of them. I can guarantee it!