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There's a lot of that, to be sure, but I think its also the fact that you can buy a iPhone 7 for less money from Apple, and the 8 doesn't really give you anything more.

I think the 8 would have been a fine 7s model which would have been the expectation this year.

The iPhone X is really next years model which would have been 8.
 
The 8 is a ho-humm update, especially for those on a 6s and up.

Lack of any wow features, is also a major factor - wireless charging has been around for so long, there's a long established standard, so Apple isn't really blazing any trails with the 8 compared to other competitors.
Why is it ho-hum and what would be a “wow” feature besides smaller bezels (which are in the X)? Apple had no problem selling the 7 and going by your standard there weren’t any “wow” features in that phone either.
 
No one wants a four-year-old giant bezel design? Shocking
Apple product and marketing executive management should have understood that same external designs for 4 consecutive years would not excite the customer base. The lukewarm acceptance of iPhone 8 is expected as customers want to see a radical change. This is the weak and unwise decision of Apple product and marketing executive decision. However, this downside should be covered by the significant demand of iPhone X. Hoping that Apple Executive Management do not use lukewarm IPhone 8 sales as a bar criteria/ benchmark to produce iPhone X because that will be a big mistake and can backfire.
 
Does the iPhone 8 camera outdo the (for example) Sony RX100 V ? Some news make it sound like it does.
 
Gonna be a lot of disappointed people when the X sells out in 3 seconds, and will continue to be sold out through Christmas.
Exactly! Thats why I bought the 8+, which is a great phone!
It makes me laugh when I hear that no one wants the new iPhones.
The iPhone 8 is the best Iphone you can buy and has many features that make it the best,
in my opinion.

I don't understand all the hate.
 
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I think you are overestimating the number of people who care about the bezel. I think the numbers are low because it is not a significant upgrade over the 6s or 7, tech wise.
I think you are underestimating the tech of the 8. What tech did either the 6s or 7 have compared to previous years that would dictate having “more” tech advancements than what the 8 offers?
 
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Ask Tim Cook.

He will get up on stage and with a straight face say he's overwhelmed by the amazing response to the new phone and could not be more delighted with how much people love them.
Yeah, it's basically pointless to ask anybody from Apple for self-criticism. They will always say everything is great and magical!

That's how Apple's marketing works.
 
Apple product and marketing executive management should have understood that same external designs for 4 consecutive years would not excite the customer base. The lukewarm acceptance of iPhone 8 is expected as customers want to see a radical change. This is the weak and unwise decision of Apple product and marketing executive decision. However, this downside should be covered by the significant demand of iPhone X. Hoping that Apple Executive Management do not use lukewarm IPhone 8 sales as a bar criteria/ benchmark to produce iPhone X because that will be a big mistake and can backfire.
How many people really care about the bezels on a phone? I know the writers at the Verge are obsessed by it but does the average consumer care? And if that’s really important to someone well that’s what the X is for.
 
Yeah, it's basically pointless to ask anybody from Apple for self-criticism. They will always say everything is great and magical!

That's how Apple's marketing works.
Which is what every company does. Nothing special about Apple. The marketing department isn’t hired to piss on the company and it’s products.
 
If sales of iPhone X are weak is someone going to go back and correct all of these articles?
 
Why is it ho-hum
Lack of features, I thought I was clear about that.

and what would be a “wow” feature
No idea, I'm not an Apple engineer. They're paid a lot of money to produce "magical" products. I'm a consumer, all I can say is the 8 is ho hum

Apple had no problem selling the 7 and going by your standard there weren’t any “wow” features in that phone either.
You're right and there was very little difference between the 7 and the 6s, and there's the rub. 6s, 7 and 8 are essentially so similar its hard to get so excited about it imo. You can buy a 7 for significantly less then the 8. If you want a glass back then yeah get the 8, but if you want something that has nearly all of the features (save wireless charging), then get the 7 and save yourself some change.
 
It's the same design for forth Year, people are not that intrested. Most of the buyers are waiting for iPhone X which will be significant lead over the previous models.
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How come the iPhone 6 Plus is missing from this data? I somehow doubt there are less in use than the iPhone 4.

I still have my launch day 6 Plus and really don’t see the need to upgrade
 
I think you are overestimating the number of people who care about the bezel. I think the numbers are low because it is not a significant upgrade over the 6s or 7, tech wise.

What are you basing this on? What would make it a significant upgrade “tech wise”? And if the 8 isn’t a significant upgrade what the heck was the 6s (or 7 for that matter)? Apple didn’t seem to have trouble selling either of those phones.
 
Does the iPhone 8 camera outdo the (for example) Sony RX100 V ? Some news make it sound like it does.

An iPhone 8 or even X would not compare to the camera quality of a Sony RX100 (even the mark 1)when shooting photos. The Sony's come close to DSLR's level of picture quality, and have far superior lenses, image processing, lower noise levels, etc.
 
Gonna be a lot of disappointed people when the X sells out in 3 seconds, and will continue to be sold out through Christmas.

Through spring sounds more likely. I picked up an 8 Plus because I just use an iPhone as a tool to get things done. The shape of it doesn't matter to me.

I also don't buy the idea that everyone is waiting for the X. I don't know a single person waiting for the X let alone anyone who was looking forward to the 8. I'm the only one in my peer group who has bought one. I think the vast majority of regular people are just happy with what they have. The iPhone 6 series was the last one where I knew a bunch of people motivated to upgrade.

NASDAQ:AAPL is already down over 1.2% in pre-market this morning.
 
How many people really care about the bezels on a phone? I know the writers at the Verge are obsessed by it but does the average consumer care? And if that’s really important to someone well that’s what the X is for.
I care more about weight, one of the negatives I’m having with my 8 compared to the 7.

In the last few years, people have become OBSESSED about getting rid of bezels on smartphones. It’s the same crowd that goes to Best Buy and looks at the side of a TV to see how thin it is.

While I can’t deny getting rid of bezels is a good thing, I cannot accept the trade offs Apple made to do so. I’ll take my bezels until Apple redesigns the iPhone properly.
 
People might not even be waiting for the x. It seems to be really low. Usually the market is flooded with used iphones in my city. I can't find any to purchase. Broke my SE on Saturday.
 
There are 17 iPhone owners in my immediate family including my wife and children and my extended family including both parents, my siblings, their spouses, and their children.

I am the only one out of all them that has any clue about the iPhone 8 and the iPhone X. My wife upgraded her ancient iPhone to the 8 Plus. I upgraded my 6s Plus to a used 7 Plus bought off Swappa.

The rest of these individuals couldn't care less about the 8 or the X. They are perfectly content to keep going with their current, fully paid-for iPhones.
 
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