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It's a bit hard to visualize the information about iPhone announcement and launch dates from the dates given alone, so I put all the information into an easily comparable format. The red triangles are the invite sent dates, the blue circles are the announcement / event dates, and the green circles are when the iPhone was launched. Note: Aug 28, 2014 was when the iPhone invite was sent (falls on a Thursday). Aug 27, 2015 was when the iPhone invite was sent (which falls on a Thursday). Usually, Apple announces the device during the second Tues / Wed of September, the exception being September 2016.

Idk .. just some ramblings.

lol..l can't envision that..
 
The Samsung paid shill astroturfing is really out of hand. Come on, do you really expect us to believe people are dumb enough to switch away from iPhone? That's like dumping your 21 year old smoking 10/10 hot girlfriend for some gradma.
 
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Just as a side, do the people at Macrumors know how to use correct grammar and punctuation?

It seems if in doubt, put everything in initial caps for a heading. Instead of, '
iPhone 8 Event Date Rumored for September 12, With Device Launching September 22'

The correct structure is, ' iPhone 8 event date rumoured for September 12, with device launching September 22'

Actually the only error I see, is that "With" should be "with", ever heard of Title Caps? or LOL? It looks like the person was going for Song Title Caps... but IDK you sound like an English teacher, and man are those people lost...

Laters...

oh and a btw: We live in a world where it's do whatever you want, pay the price, or don't pay the price. Standards? what are those???

Text Messaging will destroy the English language as we know it anyway, that mixed with computer programming languages... so if you want you can go back to 1985? Thanks! I think in some forums your post would be marked as OFF TOPIC and be FLAGGED or REMOVED. But hmm, strange, I mean I could go on and on but meh...
 
Are we expecting a refresh for the SE this year? And how soon do the carriers (T-mobile) get stock of the new iPhones as I'd prefer to pay monthly?
 
.... Apple does that at the carrier's request. I understood the practice with the cellcos were subsidizing phones but they largely are not anymore. So if we are paying full price we should get the full phone, not the one the carrier wants us to have.....

A more likely reason is because the Intel modems are cheaper than the Qualcomm modems.
 
I don't see how [Lightning is] an inconvenience, could you explain?

1. USB-C headphones don't work with Lightning. USB-C will be the standard that replaces the headphone jack. Headphone manufacturers will produce USB-C headphones in the near future and will completely phase out anything with the 3.5mm jack. What the h*ck are is anyone going to do with Lightning headphones? You can't even use them on other Apple products, let alone any other products! They're complete trash. (No, don't mention Bluetooth headphones or AirPods; neither of those are a legitimate replacement for high quality cabled headphones).
2. Lightning is a non-standard charging connector. In an ideal world, you should be able to use the same charger for your iPhone as you do for your MacBook. (In fact, that's already the case with USB-C Android phones; you can use the MacBook chargers with them).
3. Lightning requires purchasing accessories that only work with iPhones. That's really dumb. It's Apple's way of grabbing money from other manufacturers. That's not something we the consumers should support!
4. Proprietary connectors are always (without exception!) designed for the sole purpose of screwing over customers by charging extra for proprietary accessories. Without dumb proprietary connectors, that problem completely fades away!
5. In short, Lightning is 100% anti-consumer. Sure, it's fine for people who already own Lightning accessories. But that's not a good way of determining whether it's actually a good thing or not. USB connectors (and anything, really) should be observed and critiqued objectively, not subjectively. USB-C is a factually better connector that has virtually the same footprint as Lightning. Apple would have to be stupid to not adopt USB-C in their iOS devices ASAP.

Marques Browlee does a fantastic job explaining the importance of adopting USB-C. Check this out if you legitimately don't understand why Lightning is Apple's way of screwing you over:

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Why would you still want TouchID if the coming facial recognition feature is rumored to be mind-blowing?

Because I don't want to hold my phone up to my face to unlock it. I like unlocking my phone with my hands, like every other regular human being.
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You won't miss Touch ID if they have good 3D facial recognition instead. Your phone will be unlocked before you'd even got your finger on the button.

My phone will magically be unlocked when it's still by my waste after pulling it out of my pocket? Doubt it.
 
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I'm assuming we can play the answer questions with questions game all day so I'll add some context. Apple customers appreciate proprietary connectors, software and processors that only Apple can control and deliver. This doesn't mean everything has to be proprietary but when everything is an open standard (BTW, apple helped draft USB-C standard so they know exactly when to use it or not to use it) you get beige boxes of commodity junk PCs. We had this in the 70's until Apple broke that mold with Apple 2. We had it in the 80's until Apple broke that again with non-standard Macintosh. We lost a lot of that magic when Apple decided to standardize and even license out to 3rd party manufacturers in the 90's and Apple and their customers suffered from it.

Then came iMac which broke standards and introduced other new ones first which once again helped customers and the PC industry. They did it with iPod, iPhone and iPad using a non-standard 22 pin connector. That improved the customer experience over all of the standards. They continue that tradition with lightning.

If you're looking to save a few bucks by not having to buy both lightning and USB-C cables, then you came to the wrong party. If you're looking to avoid the mess right now going on with USB-C cables and are happy to pay a little more in order to get a little more from Apple, you are already an Apple customer.

Whining over Apple taking the non-proprietary road once again is no different than whining over Apple for not licensing out iOS or Mac OS to hardware manufacturers. You're wasting everyone's time.
This is nonsense. There is no "mess" going on right now with USB-C cables. It's a ridiculously fast and powerful open standard while lightning is both inferior and proprietary. You're not only using mental gynmastics to justify parting with your money, but you're also trying to justify something that hurts the tech industry as a whole.
 
This is nonsense. There is no "mess" going on right now with USB-C cables. It's a ridiculously fast and powerful open standard while lightning is both inferior and proprietary. You're not only using mental gynmastics to justify parting with your money, but you're also trying to justify something that hurts the tech industry as a whole.

^^^THIS! This this this!
Apple needs to implement USB-C in their iOS devices. They're doing themselves AND their customers a disservice by keeping inferior proprietary garbage on their devices.
 
1. USB-C headphones don't work with Lightning. USB-C will be the standard that replaces the headphone jack. Headphone manufacturers will produce USB-C headphones in the near future and will completely phase out anything with the 3.5mm jack. What the h*ck are is anyone going to do with Lightning headphones? You can't even use them on other Apple products, let alone any other products! They're complete trash. (No, don't mention Bluetooth headphones or AirPods; neither of those are a legitimate replacement for high quality cabled headphones).
2. Lightning is a non-standard charging connector. In an ideal world, you should be able to use the same charger for your iPhone as you do for your MacBook. (In fact, that's already the case with USB-C Android phones; you can use the MacBook chargers with them).
3. Lightning requires purchasing accessories that only work with iPhones. That's really dumb. It's Apple's way of grabbing money from other manufacturers. That's not something we the consumers should support!
4. Proprietary connectors are always (without exception!) designed for the sole purpose of screwing over customers by charging extra for proprietary accessories. Without dumb proprietary connectors, that problem completely fades away!
5. In short, Lightning is 100% anti-consumer. Sure, it's fine for people who already own Lightning accessories. But that's not a good way of determining whether it's actually a good thing or not. USB connectors (and anything, really) should be observed and critiqued objectively, not subjectively. USB-C is a factually better connector that has virtually the same footprint as Lightning. Apple would have to be stupid to not adopt USB-C in their iOS devices ASAP.

Marques Browlee does a fantastic job explaining the importance of adopting USB-C. Check this out if you legitimately don't understand why Lightning is Apple's way of screwing you over:

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Because I don't want to hold my phone up to my face to unlock it. I like unlocking my phone with my hands, like every other regular human being.
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My phone will magically be unlocked when it's still by my waste after pulling it out of my pocket? Doubt it.

1. The headphone jack has been removed on the iPhone so it's either wireless or use the lightning port but i suspect wireless is the future.

2. I don't see a problem in using 2 cables, i have never used a cable from my iPhone to charge my MacBook Pro nor have i ever used my iPad charger to charge my iPhone after all they come with the chargers for the devices in the box. But that's just my personal usage.

3. Consumers enable Apple to do this by buying into it whether they should or not is down to personal opinion.

4. It sounds like your not happy with this in anyway, but it's not like Apple are forcing you to buy their products if your not happy you have the option to move on.

5. I really don't think the lightning port is anti-consumer, I've used it since it has been on Apple devices and personally don't have a problem with it. I really don't see Apple removing it any time soon.

I've never really viewed anything as Apple screwing me over because i look at it this way, i'm the consumer i have the option to buy other products if i so choose, it just so happens that Apple make the best products and software for me (i really hate Android it's a mess) however i do understand that it's not the case for some people and they have the option to choose other devices (no one is holding a gun to anyones head here) BUT the average consumer doesn't care about lighting or USB-C they just want the iPhone, iPad, Mac or whatever device that they are happy about.

You may be in a minority here, that's not to say that you don't have the right to disagree of course you do, but that doesn't also mean you are right about lightning either it's all opinion based and individual use cases.
 
I have a 6S, MacBook Pro and an Ipad so you would think this launch would be something I would be looking forward to?

Not really.

My 6S still works absolutely fine, its not slow in any way and the new gimmicky features of the 8 are really not something I care about.

My Macbook is late 2013 and is still quick, I really don't see me upgrading anytime soon.

Personally I think technology has hit a sort of impasse in terms of evolution and more and more people are happy using devices which are 2-3 generations old vs 5 years ago when people craved an upgrade.

Hey, its just my opinion and I am sure the big Apple lovers will be queuing round the block on launch day so perhaps I am wrong.
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Considering the rumoured iPhone 8 design and price, I've been seriously considering switching over after 8 years of owning the iPhone. Not much has changed and iOS 11 is kinda underwhelming. Been putting off switching over to the other side for a while now and I think it's time I took the plunge.

Still going to wait for the Apple keynote just in case there's any surprises and for the Google Pixel announcement, but I think following todays Galaxy Note 8 announcement, it's looking like the prime candidate for me to switch over. The competition is too good these days to resist.

I have been considering this also.

I don't dislike my iPhone but feel it might be time for a change.
As long as the Apps work, I can get my email and I can make calls/texts then everything else is just a gimmick.

My other half has an S7 edge and I think its great.
 
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This will be a phone where waiting at least 2 months after its launch will be a smart idea. So much new tech in it that a new "RandomThingy"gate will definitely pop up

"RandomThingy" gate problems are not solved after two months. You will end up being disappointed and moaning about the 20 week shipping times.

Last year it was 'micro-abrasions' on the Jet black which was much to do about nothing and people bought matt black instead which looks like mud - awful. My Jet black still looks good and I'm glad I didn't follow the "RandomThingy" whingers.
 
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1USB-C will be the standard that replaces the headphone jack. Headphone manufacturers will produce USB-C headphones in the near future and will completely phase out anything with the 3.5mm jack.
You do realise people connect headphones to things that aren't computers right?
 
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Apple will present the Apple Watch 3, Apple TV 4K and the Phone 7s at the new campus... and then ...one more thing:

iPhone 10th anniversary model!

I think the invitation card will read "Celebrate with us!" and have an X, symbolising ten and the unknown.
 
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Hurry up, I'm iphone-less as of today (giving my 6s to my son for his birthday).
 
If I could plug a Lightning cable into a peripheral and actually benefit from the supposed speed of the Lightning format I wouldn't care. I can't plug it directly into a MacBook, or a MacBook Pro, or an iMac. With portable drives I can, but in the past they were still limited to USB speeds, the Lightning port/cable gained you nothing except not buying an adapter.

It's too slow to stream video at 4K, and I don't know of any monitors or devices that natively accepts it, even (especially) Apple devices.

There may be a few instances where the Lightning format shines. Neither I, nor most people know about them.

I think it will be USB c plug to lighting. So all will be ok
 
Anyone know how the double tap to bring the screen down could work without a fingerprint sensor?
 
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