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So, you wear a mask but you don't wear gloves?

Most hospital personnel are required to change their gloves between patients. Often they'll strip their gloves on the way out of a room, walk the hallways bare-handed, and put on a new pair when entering a new room. It helps keep infections from spreading past a single room.

Another example, but a rare one, as to why you wouldn't want to solely rely on facial recognition is where say you've got a costume on that covers your face. Rare as I said but you never know. :D

Does a scarf count? If you live somewhere that gets cold in winter, and walk to get places (for instance, because you live in a city), that's a problem. With Touch ID, I can slip the gloves off my thumb inside a pocket, unlock the phone, put the glove back on, then pull the phone out. Or even use it with just a thumb exposed instead of having to pull the scarf off my entire face and then figure out how to rearrange it properly with thick gloves while juggling a phone.
 
All these very very basic concerns of a customer should have been easily thought by a highly skilled engineers that work for one of the biggest tech companies of this world. Remember the reaction before touch ID was introduced and how much more trusty the password was for customers in this forum? Actually there are endless debates about it but that was until it was tried first on the iPhone 5s! After that, it was the best thing since the slice of bred!
Actually Touch ID didn't work reliably for me until my iPhone 7 Plus. It was good at first on my 6S plus and SE but over time became unreliable despite my repeatedly registering my prints. Time will tell if my iPhone 7 Plus reader ends up having problems. It's therefore ingrained in me to use my passcode, which is fortunate because Samsung Touch ID is atrocious. iPhone 7 and HTC 10 so far have gotten it right.
 
Joining the chorus of "instead of Touch ID? Sounds gross". Not bang into facial recognition for secure purposes, as a supplementary, yes, maybe. Replacement nope, nope, nope.

I'd take a punt that this is more useful in an AR based product, which Tim has been talking about a lot recently.
 
Most hospital personnel are required to change their gloves between patients. Often they'll strip their gloves on the way out of a room, walk the hallways bare-handed, and put on a new pair when entering a new room. It helps keep infections from spreading past a single room.



Does a scarf count? If you live somewhere that gets cold in winter, and walk to get places (for instance, because you live in a city), that's a problem. With Touch ID, I can slip the gloves off my thumb inside a pocket, unlock the phone, put the glove back on, then pull the phone out. Or even use it with just a thumb exposed instead of having to pull the scarf off my entire face and then figure out how to rearrange it properly with thick gloves while juggling a phone.

Just for you I did some testing on my SP4, yes a scarf covering your mouth or head will not log you in (I used a towel) BUT if you slightly expose more of your face its instant. So I simply pulled it down to expose my mouth -OR_ when on top opened the sides slightly... You can always have PIN as a backup too. I don't see this any more of a burden than fingerprint.

I then retrained my SP4 to recognise me with a towel over my mouth and guess what? It works. So re-training is your friend...its additive so it recognises me both ways now.
 
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no, no and thrice no.
This is (like Siri) a feature that I will never ever use. If I can't disable it then Apple will lose me as a customer.
I really mean it. They really haven't a clue about how real people use their phones do they.
Facial recognition when I'm wearing a crash helmet? Get real Tim. Don't be an ass and mess things up even more just because you can.
Touch ID works. But to have to remove my helmet just to unlock the phone or do anything sucks big time.
But one person (no names but you can guess who) will be happy because it will force muslim women who cover their faces to remove the covering to use the phone.
 
So what about when its dark out? #fakenews

After all these decades of see-in-the-dark technology, I"m stunned that so many people would even ask this.

Ever pointed your phone camera at an IR remote control and pressed a button on it?

Cameras see in the dark very easily when there's IR illumination. And the article for this facial type mentioned lasers. D'oh :)

What happens if someone that looks like me picks the phone? Or my twin?

Someone's already mentioned that, for example, Microsoft's version can tell the difference between twins.

I'd add that Apple's been registering patents for facial recognition for years. A lot has been stuff like using an always on super low power camera to recognize that a human is in front of the device, which then wakes up the higher power cameras to do actual recognition. That way you just walk up or pull out your device, and it knows to check you out.

I can't remember what the light from the scanner consisted of...IR or laser or what...but it did make my eyes feel weird. So I dont think I'll be using any scanners that shine light into my eyes or onto my face again. It was fun to use when I had, it but when I got my replacement Note 7 I was wary of Samsung's attention to safety and didn't use it.

Not to worry. First off, iris scanners are subject to international rules about the amount of power their IR illuminator can put out. Secondly, the IR light is very diffused. Apparently that prevents reflected glints. Thirdly, they're built by third parties.
 
After all these decades of see-in-the-dark technology, I"m stunned that so many people would even ask this.

Ever pointed your phone camera at an IR remote control and pressed a button on it?

Cameras see in the dark very easily when there's IR illumination. And the article for this facial type mentioned lasers. D'oh :)



Someone's already mentioned that, for example, Microsoft's version can tell the difference between twins.

I'd add that Apple's been registering patents for facial recognition for years. A lot has been stuff like using an always on super low power camera to recognize that a human is in front of the device, which then wakes up the higher power cameras to do actual recognition. That way you just walk up or pull out your device, and it knows to check you out.



Not to worry. First off, iris scanners are subject to international rules about the amount of power their IR illuminator can put out. Secondly, the IR light is very diffused. Apparently that prevents reflected glints. Thirdly, they're built by third parties.
Baloney
 
Actually, a password is more trustworthy

Actually, it is not. Or shall we say it is subjective. At least for me I had my password few times guessed or overlooked (luckily by my friends) Guess how many times I had my fingerprint guessed/copied? Zero! So here you have it.
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Actually Touch ID didn't work reliably for me until my iPhone 7 Plus.

It worked very well for most and it received a good reviews from the start, if I remember correctly. Of course there will be people who may experience problems, even with the very latest ones.
 
Scanner in my 950XL, had in my Note 7. It's aggravating to use. Fingerprint is loads faster and easier. Y'all will see.

Yes I know "Apple will do it better" but the concept itself is pretty janky IMO.

Agreed - if it does have an iris scanner, it will surely be as well as touch ID, that you can maybe have the option of using to view particularly stuff like online banking or other financial stuff.

It just wouldn't make sense to replace touch ID completely, because an iris scanner, no matter how well implemented, still won't be able to be faster than touch ID. So in that sense it would be step backwards.
 
Yes curage means keeping it. Why get rid of one of the iPhones best features? I'd welcome additional security features but Apple has curage, which doesn't mean stupid.
The 3.5 jack is useless and stupid and was right in tossing way. Touch ID not so much.
There are plenty of people on these boards that would disagree with you on the headphone jack.
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After all these decades of see-in-the-dark technology, I"m stunned that so many people would even ask this.

Ever pointed your phone camera at an IR remote control and pressed a button on it?

Cameras see in the dark very easily when there's IR illumination. And the article for this facial type mentioned lasers. D'oh :)



Someone's already mentioned that, for example, Microsoft's version can tell the difference between twins.

I'd add that Apple's been registering patents for facial recognition for years. A lot has been stuff like using an always on super low power camera to recognize that a human is in front of the device, which then wakes up the higher power cameras to do actual recognition. That way you just walk up or pull out your device, and it knows to check you out.



Not to worry. First off, iris scanners are subject to international rules about the amount of power their IR illuminator can put out. Secondly, the IR light is very diffused. Apparently that prevents reflected glints. Thirdly, they're built by third parties.
Exactly. It's amazing how people can get so triggered about something that they know nothing about.
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What is baliney about i it?
 
Scanner in my 950XL, had in my Note 7. It's aggravating to use. Fingerprint is loads faster and easier. Y'all will see.

Yes I know "Apple will do it better" but the concept itself is pretty janky IMO.
SO true but actually with the new software updates of the Windows OS, the Iris scanner is becoming faster and faster.
 
Sure glad I've got the 6s+. Apart from the better processor and portrait mode, most of the new "features" on the 7 and "8" are turn offs for me. Wonder what else will be courageously removed?
Until the 7, I've wanted to move to each new model, but I don't know how long I'll be able to keep using the 6s.
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I'm not sure this would be an improvement. With Touch ID I can have my phone unlocked and ready to use before it's out of my pocket.

With a face or iris scanner it's got to be pointed at my face before it can even begin unlocking. Given how fast Touch ID now is, face/iris scanning sounds like a big step backwards, even if it works comparably quickly.
The whole thing sounds so irritatingly stupid, it could be true.
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Now you can't take your sleeping parent's finger and open their phone. Their eyes have to be open!!!!
You're a little charmer. Not sure you're actually joking. I guess it'll make killing them for the inheritance a bit trickier.
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Zero chance of this and I base that on absolutely nothing
Are you an analyst too?
 
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So I have to scan my face to use Apple Pay. People will think I am taking a selfie before I buy the twinkies..
 
I hope apple doesn' t put touchid next to the apple logo or in the apple logo on the back.
It is so clumsy, but when i think of it, you can use touchid on the back for apple pay and the facial scanner for unlocking.
But please apple, don' t do it.
I have no problem with that, Pixel XL is working perfectly with me!
 
Eh? So what do I do if I wake up in the middle of the night and need to see what time it is? If my phone is locked, and facial recognition is the only way to unlock it, and there's no light in the room ... Besides, close to or more than $1,000 for a phone???? Seriously?????
 
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