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iPhone 8 Expected to Have 3D Facial Recognition Instead of Touch ID

My initial thought was, no way, not as a REPLACEMENT for Touch ID. At the very least, Apple Pay (currently) needs Touch ID, and angling your device in an odd way to get a face scan while paying for something is impractical - the card reader at my local coffee shop is practically horizontal, so if I had to lift my phone to get a face scan, the phone would be out of range of the contactless sensor.

My second thought was... oh, of course it will replace Touch ID. Who cares about the inconvenience and impracticality. This is Apple we're talking about. They'll do it, and damn the consequences... and functionality. Because if there is one thing the modern Apple is not about, it is functionality.
 
Great idea, but I would advise Tim to stick with touchID.
I mean there are at least 100k identical grey guys like him out there - but a lot poorer...
(which Apple doesn't know, because it doesn't store private data.....blahaha)
 
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coolbreeze said:
Fingerprint is loads faster and easier. Y'all will see.
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Not when it is wet or you work with your hands and not in an office.
You´ll see...
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Bacillus said:
Great idea, but I would advise Tim
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thanks to god that this will never happen.
There are at least 100k identical grey guys like you who never get bored telling the world they feel smarter than anyone else.
 
yaxomoxay said:
replacing touchID? No. In addition? Maybe.
(possibly a stupid question: how would it work in extremely low light conditions/darkness ?)
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Spot on. It would be hard to have a good recognition in low light, and you'd have to point the iPhone directly to your face.
Touch ID is super convenient. While I grab the phone I rest my finger on the sensor and the phone is unlocked before I take a look at it. And in low light I sometimes keep the phone quite distant from my face to have a quick look at notifications as I don't want to be bothered by the bright light coming from the display.

If they want to add facial recognition as a further security measure I'm fine with that, but just leave touchID there, eventually integrating it under the display so there is no need to have a physical button.
 
Franshans said:
thanks to god that this will never happen.
There are at least 100k identical grey guys like you who never get bored telling the world they feel smarter than anyone else.
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Identified 1 (with a worse mood...)
 
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My fingerprints don't work with Touch ID. The grooves are not defined enough to be recognized by the iPhone sensor or it programming.
 
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5 years ago I would have called BS on this, they've only just added touch-ID to the MBPs after all. Unfortunately this is exactly the kind of stunt they pull these days .. poorly thought out, poorly executed.
 
won't you still have to "touch" something to unlock?
otherwise the phone would unlock everytime you look at your phone, which would be PITA when all you want to see is the lockscreen for time, widgets.
 
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If true it would make it easier to break iOS because 3D printing a head is easy compared to finger prints.

I like the convenience of face scanning but it has to be done in such a way that it can't be done with the face of a dead person to be effective.
 
You don't have to buy it you know.

It's not the right technology for me, so I'll just probably stick with the plateau in tech that the iPhone 7 is. When that's obsolete, which will be whenever iOS can't follow an upgrade (What's that? 3 years? 5 years?) then I'll look around and see what technology there is, and it might not be Apple.

Apple 'Pro' Laptops - neutered.
Apple Display - Farmed out.
Apple iMac - soon to be neutered.
iPhone - Shiny - yes. Neutered? A mater of opinion, but a lot of people didn't like losing their 3.5 jack.
Siri? Are you there?
iCloud? Don't talk to me about iCloud!

It used to be an unquestioning 'Yes' to all of these things. The Current iMac is great but teetering on the edge with it's various memory issues, and the iPad Pro (9.7) is awesome at what it does.

But the rest of it?
 
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Jony Ive's war on usefulness continues.

Apple: Let's remove the headphone jack from our best-selling MUSIC PLAYERS. Let's make our products "thinner" (which no one is asking for) at the expense of battery life (which everyone asks for).

Let's destroy the benefits of a GUI by eliminating all the visual cues of what does what, and instead rely on Easter eggs and invisible gimmicks like "3-D touch."

Let's delete a dozen keys from our already gimped laptop keyboard and replace them with an idiotic "touch bar," which you have to compulsively look down at every few seconds because its contents change at whim and it has no palpable keys.

Apple needs to fire this pompous hack before their whole product line is destroyed. Well, it's already too late.
 
Apple will most likely need to have both Touch ID and the 3d laser scanner as the question that needs to be asked is will the facial recognition scanner work in the dark?
Plus there are going to be times when, for example, the iPhone is lying at your side (when lying in bed) and you just want to use your finger to unlock it for whatever reason rather than pick it up and put it in front of your face.

Another example, but a rare one, as to why you wouldn't want to solely rely on facial recognition is where say you've got a costume on that covers your face. Rare as I said but you never know. :D
 
iLLUMI said:
Apple will most likely need to have both Touch ID and the 3d laser scanner as the question that needs to be asked is will the facial recognition scanner work in the dark?
Plus there are going to be times when, for example, the iPhone is lying at your side (when lying in bed) and you just want to use your finger to unlock it for whatever reason rather than pick it up and put it in front of your face.

Another example, but a rare one, as to why you wouldn't want to solely rely on facial recognition is where say you've got a costume on that covers your face. Rare as I said but you never know. :D
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Or if you're dead, and someone picks up your phone. You won't care, but you won't have any secrets either. Don't worry about the dark - if it's a 3D laser (Because of, you know, recognition from 2D photographs of your face) it won't need light to 'see'.

The question isn't really "how?" as much as it is "why?" though.
 
Don't see this happening. Facial Recognition yes but removing fingerprinting? No. But what do I know, there has been some odd choices made in Apple land recently.
 
DUIduckSAUCE said:
But I thought apple had courage. Nobody says it's going away. Just that it won't be in the oled model.
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Yes curage means keeping it. Why get rid of one of the iPhones best features? I'd welcome additional security features but Apple has curage, which doesn't mean stupid.
The 3.5 jack is useless and stupid and was right in tossing way. Touch ID not so much.
 
So..... remove a well reviewed and well received feature which people trust with ApplePay..... and replace it with a gimmick.

No.
 
AppleMad98004 said:
What if you switch between contacts and glasses. Would I have take off my glasses each time I wanted to log in?? Or put them on depending?
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On the Note 7 the iris scanning worked with or without my glasses on. I had an anti reflective coating on my glasses so that did help. Some people with regular glasses did report some challenges getting the scanner to work fast.

I can't remember what the light from the scanner consisted of...IR or laser or what...but it did make my eyes feel weird. So I dont think I'll be using any scanners that shine light into my eyes or onto my face again. It was fun to use when I had, it but when I got my replacement Note 7 I was wary of Samsung's attention to safety and didn't use it.
 
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