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Facial recognition instead of touchID. Lols. You can have them. A few YouTube videos of people looking like idiots trying to log into their phones and probably will not be flying off the shelves.
 
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I can only guess, that there better be something compelling in the next iPhone model to spend that kind of money... at least for me.

The iPhone 8 was big on my radar because i was hoping to shake it up from the norm. But as the rumours come out, there's a couple strikes against it.

Strike 1: no headphone jack. We know Apple's not likely going to back off the headphone jack issue.
Strike 2: Priced out of reason-ability (rumoured) $1500+ Canadian for the phone is beyond ludicrous.
Strike 3: No fingerprint sensor (Rumoured) - Work requires me to have a extremely complex phone password. I'm not typing in a 8 random digit password every-time I want to use my phone. Fingerprint sensor (or something equal in ease of use) is a must.
 
Facial recognition instead of touchID. Lols. You can have them. A few YouTube videos of people looking like idiots trying to log into their phones and probably will not be flying off the shelves.

For me, I would question the value of facial recognition and what additional value it provides (more convenient maybe? I guess I have to experience it).

What would be nice is if Apple had someway to make flipping portrait/landscape easier (less friction) based on the orientation of the user's head. This would add value to me (I can't speak for others).

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Facial recognition instead of touchID. Lols. You can have them. A few YouTube videos of people looking like idiots trying to log into their phones and probably will not be flying off the shelves.

What if?..... I mean, it couldn't be this type of screwup, could it? Then again, there's the headphone jack.

And, Apple has a way of trying to force you to use a new feature that only has a moderate chance of working correctly with some future update.
 
As I have posted before on the forum in the past it's is worth repeating. The entire screen will be a touch ID sensor. I have seen it. It may also explain the more complex screen process. This would allow the capability to sense two or more finger prints to unlock.

This sounds very much like a TROLL.
 
The 7 and 6s launches went very smoothly actually. It wasn't that hard to get a these phones. The last time it was cluster**** was with the 6 (especially the 6 Plus).

7+ was ugly last year. I ordered on the 9th and phone arrived 5 weeks later. And my preorder was done in under 3 minutes of the site going live.
 
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I have to say when I hear "manufacturing issues" I get a little concerned about the quality of the product. To put it another way, if they're having problems making the phone, then that does not bode well (at least in my mind) for something that will be defect free

The way I see it, any electronic device that's mass produced into the millions will naturally have some defects. But given Apple's track record with their excellent hardware standards, chances are most will have no issue with launch day devices. It's the risk with any device purchase, which is also why customer service is another reason this Company is highly successful To fortify behind the product.
 
'Revolutionary new Apple Phone. Coming December.'

Everyone waiting for the new one buys a 7s because they care bare to wait for anything, and would rather buy a device they didn't want - as I see on this forum every year.

Yeah, but they'll just buy a phone they don't want, return it before the return period is up, buy another phone they don't want and return it before the return period is up, until they are able to buy the actual phone they want, and then complain about Apples supply chain management.
 
Again, online orders ship dates for the OLED model will slip to "Jan 2018" within a handful of minutes.
You thought Ear Pods have been tough to come buy? Brace yourselves.

You may very well be right. I have already decided if that's what happens I'll just sit this version out. My 7Plus is still flawless.
 
If it's really delayed, some people could consider the Note 8, Google Pixel line, or another device.
 
I'm still really bummed about apple abandoning Touch ID. It seems like the most "radical" iPhone ever will come with a least one compromise. Not good for a phone that suppose to be the best.
Nobody has claimed the "8, whatever" is going to be the best. It's a different product range with a certain feature set. If that feature set doesn't match your needs (i.e. no touch ID) then pick a product that Apple are going to sell that does include it (iphone 7s/7s+)
People have to let go of this mindset that there's going to be one model that includes everything. You have to be responsible and pick a model based on your needs.
 
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This is all misdirection bull****. The problem is the bugs which the "geniuses" couldn't sort out. Want to make a bet? Take a look at the turnover in their software department in the next 6 months.
 
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The iPhone 8 was big on my radar because i was hoping to shake it up from the norm. But as the rumours come out, there's a couple strikes against it.

Strike 1: no headphone jack. We know Apple's not likely going to back off the headphone jack issue.
Strike 2: Priced out of reason-ability (rumoured) $1500+ Canadian for the phone is beyond ludicrous.
Strike 3: No fingerprint sensor (Rumoured) - Work requires me to have a extremely complex phone password. I'm not typing in a 8 random digit password every-time I want to use my phone. Fingerprint sensor (or something equal in ease of use) is a must.

the way I see it, is

- if I want to stay in the apple ecosystem, and want the latest models, I'd have to upgrade now or defer the upgrade to next September... "pay now or pay later, but I'm going have to pay".
- the price isn't going to go down (at least not anytime soon), it just keep going up.
- the best i can hope for is if they include contactless charging and include the charger.
 
I'll wait and see the price and availability. Right now i'm actually considering going back to android with the new LG V30. Really like the camera options and the DAC on that phone. Two things that i use the most on a phone...
 
As Inspector Clouseau would say...."the old production issues" ploy....It is getting so predictable, that one could speculate its by design to "release/launch/announce" on the usual date(s), and then ramp up production based on demand....while publicly, repeatedly reporting about the "surprise".......
 
No TouchID....no thanks. This seems like a removal too far...
Problem is there has never been an iPhone that has sold less than the previous model. People don't care about features. Apple have hit on their Big Mac. Whatever the fast food market is McDonalds will always sell a Big Mac because people want a Big Mac. Whatever the smart-phone market is Apple will always sell an iPhone because people will always want an iPhone .
(And yes I get the irony in the usage of "mac" in this analogy).
 
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