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So I just told my wife that the new phone has no Touch ID and it unlocks with the facial recognition...

Her response so Twins will be able to get into each others phones. True Dat!


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Dude you can get that keyboard on the App Store as well as loads of others now...

So, it is not built into the current iOS? What about the new iOS coming out in a few weeks?
 
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Her response so Twins will be able to get into each others phones. True Dat!

We won’t know until the phone comes out and is tested, but it people seem to say that good facial recognition can tell the difference between twins.

Humans are better at identifying whether someone looks happy or sad. But computers beats humans on the quantitative side of things such as measuring the relative dimensions of the features on a face and are better able to tell twins apart.

Even humans can tell twins apart if they know them well enough.
 
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Seems like a lot of changes are coming, personally I feel the '8' this year is worth a skip, and see how it's refined for next year.

I still think a better move is to have a on screen home button that hides itself when it's not needed (during videos etc). Or a pressure button under screen like the S8, as well as the sleep/wake if necessary.

Definitely wait for the iPhone 12, it’s going to be much more refined!
 
Hopefully this can be disabled in software if not file alongside Samsungs Bixby button
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Ok not really "source " code then, he's taking the time the rest of us won't to walk through the new stuff in the beta releases.

Is this a violation of the developer agreement with Apple?

No. They uploaded it for public access.
 
You won't need to if the iPhone 8 is around the same size as the current 4.7" iPhone which it's rumoured to be I believe.

Yes you will, the iPhone 7 is still too big for one handed use for a lot of people and so it's still a valid sceario
 
Actually what about the other use of the home button which is to invoke Apple Pay? Presumably they'd have to include that double tap of the home button when the phone is locked too!

May be a completely different way of working if raise to wake and the facial recognition with automatically unlock the phone
 
I wonder where they got this idea from. What I think is ironic is that Samsung were panned for having a button for bixby. However this is the same thing but will be lapped up by the journalists.
Come on Shanghai. This is a TWO-IN-ONE feature. Samsung made a SEPARATE button for Bixby. Do you know the level of precise engineering and programming that went into this to create such a technological marvel! :rolleyes::p:p

Anyway, I wonder if they made the sleep wake button larger solely for this purpose.
 
Here's an idea for a solution (you're welcome Apple):

You attach two small NFC bugs (available in red or silver) in your shoes/slippers, then close your eyes, tap your heels together three times and think to yourself... 'There's place like home... there's no place like home... there's no place....' until the phone responds however you want it too.

Ha-ha-ha, ho-ho-ho, and a couple of tra-la-las, that's how we solve the button thing in the merry old iOS!
 
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I wonder where they got this idea from. What I think is ironic is that Samsung were panned for having a button for bixby. However this is the same thing but will be lapped up by the journalists.

Seriously? How is adding functionality to an existing power-button the same thing has having a separate, dedicated button that will only do one single thing (launch Bixby)? Its not the same thing, not at all.

You also have to remember you are comparing two vastly different platform. One being based on a open-source platform (Android) and one being based on a closed-source, locked-down platform (iOS). And this open-source platform (Android) gives you a bunch of other voice-assistants, like Google (Androids) very own Google Now / Google Assistant so it just stupid to have companies like Samsung locking down an entire button so it can only be used for Bixby when they insist on using a open platform like Android as their operating system. Especially when phone is sold in many markets where Bixby isn't even available.. Why would you sell a phone, with this dedicated button in markets where this button doesn't do jack as a result of Bixby not being available? It just doesn't make any sense.

This is Samsung in a nutshell. They've done this for years. They take the open-platform that is Android and puts tons of proprietary layers on top of it while they lock out basic Android features that compete with their own proprietary ones. Just like how Samsung got rid of the built-in native Chromecast/Google Cast support in Android 4 (or was it 5?) because they wanted people to use their own S-Beam/AnyCast/Screen Mirroring and whatever they have rebranded it as over the years.
 
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Wow, took 11 iOS's to get gestures???? Activator has been doing this for jb phones for years. How about a simple slide in from the tight (for example) to activate Siri
 
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Why not just enhance facial recognition so that iPhone automatically launch Siri when detecting user speaking “Hey Siri” to the phone? That is, make Siri completely independent from relying hardware buttons to invoke.
 
The days of just touching your iPhone without looking and unlocking it are apparently over.

I'm waiting for the first cable TV news report of someone driving off the road while attempting to unlock the iPhone 8 while driving. Not that I recommend distracted driving, but with turn by turn driving instructions, it's highly likely. Not everybody's vehicle has Carplay.
 
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Can't innovate anymore, my ass!
Well this could have been but leaks on hardware and software spoiled the surprise for all of us - having said that I know regular folks (my wife) that its completely unaware of this and doesn’t care - she is on the Apple upgrade program will get the next one regardless
 
Seriously? How is adding functionality to an existing power-button the same thing has having a separate, dedicated button that will only do one single thing (launch Bixby)? Its not the same thing, not at all.

You also have to remember you are comparing two vastly different platform. One being based on a open-source platform (Android) and one being based on a closed-source, locked-down platform (iOS). And this open-source platform (Android) gives you a bunch of other voice-assistants, like Google (Androids) very own Google Now / Google Assistant so it just stupid to have companies like Samsung locking down an entire button so it can only be used for Bixby when they insist on using a open platform like Android as their operating system. Especially when phone is sold in many markets where Bixby isn't even available.. Why would you sell a phone, with this dedicated button in markets where this button doesn't do jack as a result of Bixby not being available? It just doesn't make any sense.

This is Samsung in a nutshell. They've done this for years. They take the open-platform that is Android and puts tons of proprietary layers on top of it while they lock out basic Android features that compete with their own proprietary ones. Just like how Samsung got rid of the built-in native Chromecast/Google Cast support in Android 4 (or was it 5?) because they wanted people to use their own S-Beam/AnyCast/Screen Mirroring and whatever they have rebranded it as over the years.
Bixby is now available in all markets but it only works in Korean and English. It's the same thing. A button to activate a voice assistant. Bixby is actually difference to google assistant in that it's prime function is to preform tasks on the phone rather than to ask questions and give information.

It's about having choices. When Samsung add bixby it doesn't mean you have to use it or loose google assistant. You can still use a chromecast with Samsung devices. Samsung often have features years before they are incorporated into stock android.
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Come on Shanghai. This is a TWO-IN-ONE feature. Samsung made a SEPARATE button for Bixby. Do you know the level of precise engineering and programming that went into this to create such a technological marvel! :rolleyes::p:p

Anyway, I wonder if they made the sleep wake button larger solely for this purpose.
They are both silly. Both require you to press a button to activate a voice assistant. Apple should have just left it as hey Siri if people wanted to activate it.
 
Even though I still plan on getting the 7S over the 8, I haven't been this excited for an iPhone event in a while. This is the most the phone has changed in a long time (even if I'm not so thrilled about some of the changes, like the loss of Touch ID). But this is definitely a "new direction" for the phone and I'm excited to see how it's received :)
 
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I guess I’ll have to take the good with the bad it’s a little less convenient / more annoying
How so? Reportedly, "Hey Siri" will still be there, and if all I've read about the upcoming Facial Recognition function is true, that feature will 'knock it out of the park' making TouchID feel sluggish and outdated.

Pick up your phone, and it's unlocked before you're even ready to interact with it. In a situation where you're worried about security?.... instantly temporarily revert to passcode.
 
The days of just touching your iPhone without looking and unlocking it are apparently over.

I'm waiting for the first cable TV news report of someone driving off the road while attempting to unlock the iPhone 8 while driving. Not that I recommend distracted driving, but with turn by turn driving instructions, it's highly likely. Not everybody's vehicle has Carplay.

That's a good point, and something I hadn't thought of yet. In a related situation, far too often I still have to glance at my phone when approaching an intersection to see which direction I'll have to turn as Maps/Siri doesn't tell you when to turn until the last possible moment. I still miss turns quite often because of this. I guess I'm getting off topic, but it's amazing that Siri still doesn't adjust to the speed at which you are driving. I haven't used Google Maps in a long while, does that app adjust to your driving speed?
 
Although this line has been used in the media and by people for a long while now, including in the article above, it just hit me that THIS should be the new name of Apple's next phone: "So-Called iPhone".
 
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Also as soon as you have all the evidence you need, please stop referring to it as the ‘iPhone 8’. If that evidence gets released, I hope everyone does that but realistically it probably won’t happen, iPhone 8 gets more clicks.

Why change what they call it now when no name has been confirmed but we'll know for sure in a little over a week? Might as well keep calling it what most people know it by rather than confusing people by switching to a different name now and still possibly being wrong.

You won't need to if the iPhone 8 is around the same size as the current 4.7" iPhone which it's rumoured to be I believe.

Even the 4.7" iPhones have reachability. For average to small sized hands the very top corners of the 6/6s/7 can be hard to reach depending on your grip, and the "iPhone 8" will still be slightly larger.

Why not just enhance facial recognition so that iPhone automatically launch Siri when detecting user speaking “Hey Siri” to the phone? That is, make Siri completely independent from relying hardware buttons to invoke.

What does this have to do with facial recognition? It can already launch when you say "Hey Siri" due to voice recognition, unless you mean you want it to read your lips so that you can just mouth it?

But the point is, they're addressing the fact that some people want to be able to activate Siri without having to speak out loud.
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That's a good point, and something I hadn't thought of yet. In a related situation, far too often I still have to glance at my phone when approaching an intersection to see which direction I'll have to turn as Maps/Siri doesn't tell you when to turn until the last possible moment. I still miss turns quite often because of this. I guess I'm getting off topic, but it's amazing that Siri still doesn't adjust to the speed at which you are driving. I haven't used Google Maps in a long while, does that app adjust to your driving speed?

Use Google Maps. It will tell you when you're approaching a turn. eg. "In 600m turn left onto Main Street North... Turn left onto Main Street North".

I've been using iPhones for years and I've never used Apple Maps. I heard too many horror stories when it first launched, and although I have no doubt that it's MUCH better now, I've never had any reason to not use Google.
 
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