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I never have those problems. Siri works all the time for me. I just tested Walmart and said "Take me to Walmart". In less than the 2 seconds spent on Android, I got a list of Walmarts ranked by how close they are to my location. I think it took 1 second.

That's not the question the poster asked Siri though is it?
 
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They should put back the old system where it turned in when you held it to your ear.
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That's not the question the poster asked Siri though is it?
I just tried "Is the Co-Op open?". On both :apple: Watch and it first asked me to select a branch by tapping, which is already reducing its utility significantly. After tapping, on iPhone it proceeded to give me the opening times, on the Watch it said "Sorry, I don't have an answer".

Siri is good for starting timers on the Watch, that's all I use it for.
 
The lock button needs to go back to the top. I'm sick and tired of hitting the volume every time I want to lock the phone.

I really agree with this. I press (and hold) the off button and the volume buttons are on the exactly opposite side. I usually turn up the volume by accident this way but I have also turned it down.
 
So I just told my wife that the new phone has no Touch ID and it unlocks with the facial recognition...

Her response so Twins will be able to get into each others phones. True Dat!


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Dude you can get that keyboard on the App Store as well as loads of others now...

Erm actually even identical twins have subtle differences in their physiology that could be detected by facial recognition.
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So, it is not built into the current iOS? What about the new iOS coming out in a few weeks?

Thie point is is that if it is SO important to you to have swipe typing on an iPhone then you can install a third party keyboard already available. So it does not matter if Apple release a built in version.
I installed one and had no problems, was as if it WAS built in from the start.
 
That's why I hope they make the SE until the end of time. It's like a Leica of the iphones. Top home button, and a headphone jack. Before Apple stopped caring about useful design.
 
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So, now many options will we have available on the sleep/wake home button.. It already press/hold to display power slide off. Hopefully, that still be there.
 
Just remove Siri functionality altogether, until it's useful anyway.

Last week at work - I asked a coworker if a particular Walmart near us happened to be 24 hours. Neither of us knew, so he reached for his iPhone 7. He activated Siri and proceeded to ask. No dice. He rephrased, dumbed down, typed and STILL it was difficult to get a correct answer, or for the right info to pop up on the screen.

Asked another coworker who I knew use Android, and immediately upon asking it took her to the correct info, less than 2 seconds spent.

Siri is TRASH and hasn't been upgraded in any meaningful way since the iPhone 4. Sad.

I just asked Siri what the hours are for my local Walmart and I got an answer. Not sure why it didn't work for you.
 
How do you do a screen shot without the home button?

Weird, no one has asked that.

Power and Volume Up/Down same as any other phone with a capacitative home button/software home button. That's what they did with DFU/Restore mode on the iPhone 7 models.
 
That's why I hope they make the SE until the end of time. It's like a Leica of the iphones. Top home button, and a headphone jack. Before Apple stopped caring about useful design.
Ummmm I have the SE and it's a great phone. However, don't care about the headphone jack. About a month ago I got an Airpod.....just great....will never go back to wired headphones.
 
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I always assumed since the first rumours that the home button was going, that Apple would somehow combine it with the Lock/wake button. It wouldn't be too hard.

Click once - acts like home button and takes you to the home screen.
Click again from home screen to lock, or double click from anywhere to lock quickly.
Hold it for a second to bring up Siri, or hold for a few seconds to power down.
Hold Lock/home + volume down to hard reset.

That should keep the people who miss the home button happy while all the new gestures will speed things up for power users. With a bigger screen it wouldn't be too hard to use the old 4 finger pinch gesture from the iPad as a home gesture as well (not sure if you can already do this on the plus?)

If FaceID works like it's rumoured to, combined with raise to wake and perhaps a new lower to lock (like Apple Watch) you would never miss TouchID. Everything would happen seamlessly just by picking up and putting down your phone.
 
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You won't need to if the iPhone 8 is around the same size as the current 4.7" iPhone which it's rumoured to be I believe.
I’m really surprised to see people up voting your comment. It’s supposed to have slightly larger physical dimensions, but the display will be much taller due to reduction of bezels. Try reaching the very top edge of your 4.7” iPhone above the display. That’s where the back button will be now unless they change the UI standards. Furthermore, the 4.7” iPhone currently has reachability, so I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. If I use it now, why would I not need to use it on a 5.8” display? There is no logic in this statement.
 
So I just told my wife that the new phone has no Touch ID and it unlocks with the facial recognition...

Her response so Twins will be able to get into each others phones. True Dat!

Microsoft Surface made a big point of showing off that their facial recognition could perfectly tell twins apart. This was at least 2 years ago.

Also works in total darkness, is lightning fast, and learns as you age/grow beard/get hair cuts etc. It just works, unlike a lot of other aspects of my Surface.
 
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I’m really surprised to see people up voting your comment. It’s supposed to have slightly larger physical dimensions, but the display will be much taller due to reduction of bezels. Try reaching the very top edge of your 4.7” iPhone above the display. That’s where the back button will be now unless they change the UI standards. Furthermore, the 4.7” iPhone currently has reachability, so I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. If I use it now, why would I not need to use it on a 5.8” display? There is no logic in this statement.

I currently have the 7 Plus and don't use reachability, i didn't know that it was even on the 4.7" iPhone 7, to me the 4.7" phone displays are small. Maybe for those that have tiny hands it's a good thing but in general I don't see a need for reachability on a 4.7" display.
 
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In the absence of a physical Home button, Apple's so-called "iPhone 8" may allow users to activate Siri by holding down the Sleep/Wake button if they prefer not to do so using the voice command "Hey Siri". That's according to iOS developer Guilherme Rambo, based on a discovery he has made in source code that points to the possibility.

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In a tweet posted on Saturday, Rambo said he wondered if Apple had moved any of the original Home button's functionality to the "lock" button (or Sleep/Wake, as Apple calls it) located on the upper right side of the handset. When asked by a follower if he had found something in Apple's code to suggest this, Rambo revealed that he had indeed discovered a gesture to invoke Siri by holding the lock button.

It's unclear what type of code Rambo refers to, but the Brazilian developer has previously unearthed details of upcoming Apple products in the company's beta software, including references to a 4K Apple TV in tvOS 11 as well as references in early HomePod firmware to some features widely expected in the company's upcoming OLED iPhone.


Apple's radically redesigned iPhone does away with the Home button entirely, relying instead on a new gestural interface that includes a "software bar" along the bottom of the screen and an app dock similar to the one found in iOS 11 on iPad.

While next-generation facial recognition technology is said to replace Touch ID fingerprint authentication, details are murky as to how Apple plans to remap other functions that traditionally involve pressing the Home button. For instance, any method of invoking Siri using the Sleep/Wake button would need to be sufficiently distinct from the current long press that activates the slide-to-power-off screen, unless Apple has also relocated the latter function. Another possibility is that the power button on the OLED iPhone houses two separate contact switches, which could explain why it appears elongated in some alleged design leaks.

All should be revealed at the company's September 12 media event, where Apple is expected to unveil its "premium" OLED iPhone alongside new upgraded versions of iPhone 7 and 7 Plus, a fifth-generation Apple TV, and an Apple Watch Series 3 range with LTE capability. Apple will stream the event live on its website and on the Apple TV, but for those who are unable to watch, MacRumors will be providing full event coverage, both on MacRumors.com and through our MacRumorsLive Twitter account.

Update: A reader has pointed out that last month Brazilian blog iHelp BR discovered a line of code in the HomePod firmware that suggests the Sleep/Wake button could in fact change functions on the OLED iPhone depending on the app currently in use. The line of code "lockButtonAppropriateForShutter" likely relates to the native camera app and may indicate the presence of dual switches.

Article Link: 'iPhone 8' May Include Option to Activate Siri By Holding the Sleep/Wake Button
[doublepost=1504505848][/doublepost]With an outdated camera hump and a weird looking front screen, I'm gonna keep my 7 Plus for another year.
 
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I currently have the 7 Plus and don't use reachability, i didn't know that it was even on the 4.7" iPhone 7, to me the 4.7" phone displays are small. Maybe for those that have tiny hands it's a good thing but in general I don't see a need for reachability on a 4.7" display.
Grats on the massive hands bro. You palm basketballs? So cool. The other 90% of the population should suffer at the hand of your glory. As a user interface and user experience designer myself, I really think you should get into product usability design. You clearly know better than Apple, and have an incredible gift for empathy to boot!

Aside: I feel like this is emblematic of a larger problem with our society as a whole right now. "This doesn't affect me therefore this is not a problem."

Furthermore, as someone who often deals with accessibility issues on the web, I feel it's important to note that many people suffer from arthritis and repetitive stress injuries such as carpel tunnel. Trying to use one hand stretch across the display is literally painful. When I had a 6 Plus I was bad about using reachability and the pain in my hand actually went away a month or so I bought the smaller 6s. Furthermore, some people only have one hand. Apple is always striving to push forward accessibility for all people, and therefore I don't believe they will abandon reachability on these larger screened devices any time soon.

BTW, in case you're wondering I have slightly larger than average sized hands. Why did I measure? Because I measured my wrists for my Apple Watch sizing before launch and was surprised that my wrists were bigger than average when comparing with other people online about getting sized. So I measured my hands. I'm not some small handed edge-case.
 
They definitely need to do this. "Hey Siri" doesn't work for me about 50% of the time
 
What if the lock button becomes the new home button?

It mighty work.
Press to go home, press differently to lock the screen, press for a longer time to power down the iPhone.
Not as convenient as having the home button at the usual place, but still better than nothing.
I think I could get used to the swipe gesture instead of the home button, but some people prefer a physical button they can press firmly.
Another week and we'll find out. If they put a bigger sleep button it ought to have some additional functionalities
 
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Seems like a lot of changes are coming, personally I feel the '8' this year is worth a skip, and see how it's refined for next year.

I still think a better move is to have a on screen home button that hides itself when it's not needed (during videos etc). Or a pressure button under screen like the S8, as well as the sleep/wake if necessary.
Of course the next iPhone will always be more refined. But it'll have new features which then again will not be refined.

Hmm I personally was very on board with the virtual home button. But there is a problem with it: Why take something away for it then to be renered virtually? I mean the home button provides a familiar flair, but Apple is always critized for sticking to the "old". I think the swipping up for multitasking would be great for the iPhone. If the rumored bottom line is true, then maybe a hard press on it will trigger some kind of home button effect? And I also think they are preparing the customers for the future. A future where you will just have a slab of glass without any buttons and will have to do everything with swiping or pressing. I think anyones guess is as good as mine and that we will have to wait and see until next week.
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I always assumed since the first rumours that the home button was going, that Apple would somehow combine it with the Lock/wake button. It wouldn't be too hard.

Click once - acts like home button and takes you to the home screen.
Click again from home screen to lock, or double click from anywhere to lock quickly.
Hold it for a second to bring up Siri, or hold for a few seconds to power down.
Hold Lock/home + volume down to hard reset.

That should keep the people who miss the home button happy while all the new gestures will speed things up for power users. With a bigger screen it wouldn't be too hard to use the old 4 finger pinch gesture from the iPad as a home gesture as well (not sure if you can already do this on the plus?)

If FaceID works like it's rumoured to, combined with raise to wake and perhaps a new lower to lock (like Apple Watch) you would never miss TouchID. Everything would happen seamlessly just by picking up and putting down your phone.

Thank you! I have had very similar hopes for the integration of all the new technology. I think there is a high probability that it will happen like that.

It would also go hand in hand with the rumors, that the button will be much longer than the old ones. If it’s longer it will be more comfortable to use.

I am afraid however, that Apple will alienate some users with that. Guess that might also be the reason why they launch it as a third devises this year. So that people can get used to it.
 
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