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Still not conclusive though, I don't buy the second story based on Apple never having redesigned an 'S' model phone.
The first story linked even states the rumours are not conclusive... 4 months till September and hardly any rumours?
 
I've always admired your imagery. This time, you hit it out of the park!
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I've always wanted people I buy from to make money off of me and others. How much is a person to person thing, but any business that is losing money worries me, as it becomes concerning how they'll do in the long run.

Apple hasn't always been a cash cow, and I think, in a year, I'll divest myself of the stock I hold in them, and move it to something with better returns. The 400% I've earned is enough for now.
I didn't say they shouldn't do fine, but their financial success is obscene in my opinion.

I'm not saying sell everything at a loss or even that they shouldn't be the #1 grossing tech company, but then they better perform that way in the spec sheets, too.

"Specs don't matter" is a cop out. They do and always have, why else would you buy a phone that has kept its general design for 3 gens now.

Why else would you be interested in a new Mac Pro or a better MacBook than you have.

To operate a Facebook and email machine that looks pretty I don't need Apple, certainly not for the price they are asking. Things got out of hand but the hype train is slow to break, doesn't mean that for a critical customer there's nothing to worry about.

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Excluding the increases in stock price is sort of like complaining about spending $1000 on "a phone". Something that just makes phone calls. It deliberately ignores the big picture.

So far this year I've realized almost $25,000 in long-term gains on my AAPL stock. Even if I never invest in Apple again, I'm covered for iPhone upgrades every three years or so for the rest of my life. In other years, I've bought and sold AAPL and realized at least $100,000 in gains (more than I've spent or am likely to spend on all Apple products in my life).

I think I have my Tesla Model 3 covered with realized gains from TSLA.

I'm not the smartest investor by a long shot. Or the luckiest. But AAPL has been good for me.

Or you could invest money in property and get 10% return on your investment per year whilst the property price increases as well. Not only that but it is a lot less risky than shares.

That's a smarter way to invest money both short and long term.

Someone could make more gains in property than they ever would buying Apple shares at today's price.

Each to their own though.
 
I have no issue in spending ~£1000 (I'm in the UK) on the one device I without a doubt use the most every day.

Even more so considering I abandoned the yearly update so a thousand quid for two years use is not bad at all for me personally.

That said, whether this next iPhone is that device remains to be seen (and I've been an iPhone user since the 3G one).

I must admit that the possibility of the finger print sensor being in the back is not going down very well as I often unlock my phone while it sits flat on my desk.

And as for the people saying that they don't want to spend that kind of money on a phone they are just clearly and willingly ignoring the fact that these devices (regardless of the brand) are waaaay more than just phones or just simply can't afford them (nothing wrong with that either, I can't afford a Ferrari but you don't see me moaning about it).

Looking forward to the release later this year so we can see what they actually end up churning out! =)
 
I have no issue in spending ~£1000 (I'm in the UK) on the one device I without a doubt use the most every day.

Even more so considering I abandoned the yearly update so a thousand quid for two years use is not bad at all for me personally.

That said, whether this next iPhone is that device remains to be seen (and I've been an iPhone user since the 3G one).

I must admit that the possibility of the finger print sensor being in the back is not going down very well as I often unlock my phone while it sits flat on my desk.

And as for the people saying that they don't want to spend that kind of money on a phone they are just clearly and willingly ignoring the fact that these devices (regardless of the brand) are waaaay more than just phones or just simply can't afford them (nothing wrong with that either, I can't afford a Ferrari but you don't see me moaning about it).

Looking forward to the release later this year so we can see what they actually end up churning out! =)

This mentality is the reason why Apple can get away with charging whatever they want for an iPhone. No one knows for sure what features it will have or how much it will cost but if it is just a slightly improved version of effectively a Samsung Galaxy S8 then I fail to see why it would be justified for Apple to charge upwards of £1,000 for it.
 
I built my i7 Kaby Lake PC for almost a 1/3 of what Apple would charge. Tired of paying the Apple tax.

I wouldn't be tired of the Apple tax if they built expensive machines worth owning. I love MacOS but the new MacBook Pro is a joke. If they'd have labeled it the next generation MacBook Air, which is what it is, and let the Pro folks know they heard them loud and clear and were working a new modular Pro line that would be out next year I think most people would have been OK with that.
 
The reason why Apple can do this today is because no one, except the handful of suckers who buy unlocked at full retail and think they are beating the system, will see it as $1000. It is $49/mon for 12 months, then trade up and continue.

Actually, if I buy it outright and keep it for 21 months and beyond, I come out ahead relative to those who rent it and always have a phone payment. Plus mine will have residual value I can get back. Oh and I don't incur an activation fee as a pre-paid customer.

Might want to rethink that sucker mentality.
 
You sound a little salty bro

Not really. I brought iPhone 6S and iPhone SE. I didn't buy iPhone 7, simply I don't see iPhone 7 worth the money.

Really, after using this 186 dollars ZTE phone, I don't see the reason why would anyone spend 1000 plus for a phone when you can spend 1/5 of the money and still get everything done. For me, I probably won't buy any phone that is over 500 dollars mark. Not worth the money.
 
I assure you Apple does not do pricing research off internet forums. :p
Angela? :D
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The reason why Apple can do this today is because no one, except the handful of suckers who buy unlocked at full retail and think they are beating the system, will see it as $1000. It is $49/mon for 12 months, then trade up and continue.
You call suckers millions of people in the world. Not every country has the same messed system as US with its phone/cable companies. Probably most countries don't have it. So people around the world who buy it at full price aren't beating the system, they may have no other choice.
 
This mentality is the reason why Apple can get away with charging whatever they want for an iPhone. No one knows for sure what features it will have or how much it will cost but if it is just a slightly improved version of effectively a Samsung Galaxy S8 then I fail to see why it would be justified for Apple to charge upwards of £1,000 for it.

The same can be said for other luxury goods like cars, clothes, HiFi equipment etc...
 
Well, IF this is true then I'll get 7+ 256 so that way I can get 2+ years out of it. Have a 7 32GB now and planning on upgrading to the 8. But right now everything is rumors so we'll see. I don't believe it till I see it.
 
The same can be said for other luxury goods like cars, clothes, HiFi equipment etc...

So if other companies do it then it justifies Apple doing it? The logic on this forum does make me laugh.

Out of interest what clothes company releases annual products that increases the price by hundreads of pounds to catch up with their competitors?
 
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I think i will continue to use my iPhone 5s. I have given a lot of money to Apple over the years (i started with the Mac Classic) but don't see a need to buy this proposed device that costs 1,000 dollars. Over time, Apple has learned how to produce these products for less money. In most normal businesses the manufactures lower the cost to customers as manufacturing costs decrease. while Apple makes a great product, it does not mean that we need to spend this kind of money for it. I am receiving no benefit from that huge new headquarters, I see no reason to fund its construction.

You're not giving Apple your money for the sake of giving them money, its an exchange not a tax. If they deem a new building necessary for operations or moral then so be it. Also in business the shareholders interest comes first not the customers (google dodge v Ford Motor co) reducing prices for the sake of reducing prices would be a disservice to the shareholder by not maximizing profits. Companies pass on the savings because they have no choice. When a business analyst (not a market analyst) predicts a reduction in sales and profits; and a report shows profits can than be maximized by selling more product for less and the price reduction is justified. If Apple isn't delivering a product you deem worthy of the price tag, I agree you shouldn't buy it, but don't act like you should have a say where their money goes after they earn your business.
 
So if other companies do it then it justifies Apple doing it? The logic on this forum does make me laugh.

Out of interest what clothes company releases annual products that increases the price by hundreads of pounds to catch up with their competitors?

They don't have to catch up with their competitors because they don't have any.

Take for example Leica. Makes great and high quality cameras, no doubt about that. But Leica's prices are like 3 to 5 times higher than brands like Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm. But is the quality of Leica 3 to 5 times better? Surely not. But it is the Leica brand that sells: many people just want to have a camera with that red badge on it. And there is nothing wrong with that.

I have shot with Canon and now I shoot Fujifilm. Would I like to have a Leica? Maybe. Am I willing to pay Leica prices? No. Do I complain that Leica is so expensive? No.

If you don't want to pay the Apple prices by all means buy a different brand smartphone. It is not that anyone is entitled to have an Apple.
 
The reason why Apple can do this today is because no one, except the handful of suckers who buy unlocked at full retail and think they are beating the system, will see it as $1000. It is $49/mon for 12 months, then trade up and continue.

I'm a sucker who buys unlocked at full retail. Is the total cost of ownership really that much greater? i didn't think it was, and I'm not tied in to a contract. Currently paying £15 / $19 a month for 7GB of data, 500 mins and unlimited texts. Which seems pretty good to me.
 
They don't have to catch up with their competitors because they don't have any.

Take for example Leica. Makes great and high quality cameras, no doubt about that. But Leica's prices are like 3 to 5 times higher than brands like Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm. But is the quality of Leica 3 to 5 times better? Surely not. But it is the Leica brand that sells: many people just want to have a camera with that red badge on it. And there is nothing wrong with that.

I have shot with Canon and now I shoot Fujifilm. Would I like to have a Leica? Maybe. Am I willing to pay Leica prices? No. Do I complain that Leica is so expensive? No.

If you don't want to pay the Apple prices by all means buy a different brand smartphone. It is not that anyone is entitled to have an Apple.

Where was it said "that anyone is entitled to have an Apple"?

Apple have always been more expensive than its competitors, that's not the point I'm making. I'm also not complaining about Apple being more expensive than its competitors.

The original point I made was that if people are happy to pay whatever price Apple decides to increase the iPhone to without questioning it then Apple will just continue to raise prices because they know they can. I can't see the logic in why people don't question it.

Of course at this moment this price is just a rumour.
 



Apple's so-called "iPhone 8" with an OLED display and wireless charging is widely expected to cost in the neighborhood of $1,000 in the United States, and Wall Street analysts continue to guess just how much it'll sell for.

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iPhone 8 concept by Benjamin Geskin

The latest prediction comes from Goldman Sachs analyst Simona Jankowski, who today said she expects the rumored high-end iPhone to be available in 128GB and 256GB storage capacities for $999 and $1,099 respectively. Unlike the iPhone 7, she doesn't believe the iPhone 8 will be available in 32GB.

An excerpt from her research note distributed today:Apple's most expensive smartphone to date is the iPhone 7 Plus with 256GB of storage, which retails for $969 in the United States.

UBS analyst Steven Milunovich shared entirely different pricing expectations last month, so it's clear that analysts are simply guesstimating. He thinks the iPhone 8 will come in 64GB and 256GB storage capacities for $850-$900 and $950-$1,000 respectively. His research note didn't mention 32GB or 128GB models.

The takeaway here is that the iPhone 8 will likely be very expensive. The device's exact price tag is likely privy only to Apple at this point, however, so treat any estimate with a healthy dose of skepticism for now.

Goldman Sachs raised its 12-month price target for Apple's stock to $170, up from $164, based on strong iPhone 8 expectations.

Article Link: iPhone 8 Predicted to Cost $999 For 128GB And $1,099 For 256GB, With No 32GB Model
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I would rather just get a new phone then get some refurbished crap but in my opinion getting refurbished you are just asking for more trouble
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You said you were awaiting the new iPhone because of your iPhone 7 battery issues. Getting it swapped under warranty won't interfere with that, and in the meantime, you won't be dealing with a bad battery, and you'll have an easier time selling the swapped phone.

Also, are you sure it's a refurb? I've always gotten a brand new device in a warranty swap (though it has been quite a few years and Angela may have spoiled that too).
 
The prices for smartphones are getting out of hand. Customers need to research what is available for the price and not just buy a product because it's made by Apple or Samsung. because of the popular brand name these companies think they can charge what they want. Also in apples case customers are used to the Apple ecosystem and Apple knows and takes advantage of that by releasing the same phone for a few years then trying to raise the price when they offer a proper upgrade, no other company would still be at the top from what they've done over the last few years. It is not difficult to switch to another smartphone os, you can get the hang of it within a month and there are backup options for contacts and pictures. So please, once it's time for a new phone look into your options first instead of readily and without question surrendering 1k to any company.
 
I'm a sucker who buys unlocked at full retail. Is the total cost of ownership really that much greater? i didn't think it was, and I'm not tied in to a contract. Currently paying £15 / $19 a month for 7GB of data, 500 mins and unlimited texts. Which seems pretty good to me.

I Also have purchased iPhones multiple times out right. They advantage for me is that I'm not locked in on some subsidiary contract or monthly installed payment contract with my carrier, where I can freely use the phone and sell it at will. And I typically sell my devices on an annual basis before I upgrade to the newest released iPhone.
 
Given Apple's cash reserve (now over US$250 billion!), I think they won't price the AMOLED screen iPhone 8 at those ridiculous prices.

I expect the price to be US$899 for the 128 GB model and US$999 for the 256 GB model.
 
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