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iPhone 8 Said to Feature Iris Scanner to Authenticate With Your Eyes
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man the negativity in this forum is just amazing!
It's a new feature, why not? who hates adding new features to his new iPhone!!
It's a new feature, why not? who hates adding new features to his new iPhone!!
More relevant, I think, is the UI.
Forget the exact technology, TODAY we have a UI that is pretty well optimized for two tasks.
You can just pick up your phone and the lock-screen widgets tell you a bunch of immediate info (new emails, notifications, SMS, etc). You can then touch the home button (without even pressing, if you've set preferences correctly) and swap to the "unlocked" phone with whatever app you were last using.
Bits of this are less slick if you have an older iPhone, but with an iPhone 7 all the pieces work seamlessly.
If you now add some sort of face/eye recognition to the mix, you lose any value to widgets on the lock-screen because there'll be no "normal" way to view the lock-screen without immediately unlocking. (On iPhone 7 this is not a problem --- view the lock screen by picking up the phone. On earlier phones, either view the lock screen by hitting the power button, or by hitting the home button using a non-fingerprint finger.)
I'm not sure this is a useful direction. I think most people (especially with an iPhone 7) find the lock screen widgets crazy useful, MORE useful than some sort of immediate unlock would be. And I don't see a UI that achieves that same goals (show "updated status widgets until I want to switch to 'unlocked phone mode'") that's simpler than what we have today --- making that switch from "status update display" to "full phone with apps" mode has to have some sort of user touch.
The only way I can see this being valuable is something like:
I look at the phone but it is NOT immediately unlocked. Instead it remains locked until I touch something. This would allow for "traditional" (touch the home button) unlocking, but would allow for ONE slightly more slick move, namely when I swipe say an email or a text message, I immediately get dumped into the unlocked app without having to move my finger to the home button.
This is one of those tweaks that you can live without, but would be cute to have. My guess is that's how Apple will do it, and as a consequence, it won't seem like much of a change at all from the way you use your iPhone today, except for that one small usage change.
(And note, Apple could achieve the same result without eye/face recognition if it used ultrasonic fingerprint recognition that works anywhere on the screen. This technology exists and has its own value --- eg it can also be used to provide 3D-touch style pressure sensing. To me it seems like a more elegant overall solution than adding eye/face recognition.)
What about someone who knocked out?
If the eye scanner is done properly, it could probably detect that you are awake and willing. Would be interesting.
This is probably another reason why we will never see a longer lasting more powerful battery in the iPhone. Apple always has to account for more space needed inside the phone for each model and if they set the bar for a longer larger battery they may end up with not enough space for new technology that arrives. The iPhone is always advancing and battery will never be first on the list of concerns. Apple need to sell phones and touting battery is not going to sell phones but catchy stuff like Touch ID 3D Touch and Eye ID will sell phones thus battery will suffer.
Wouldn't it be awesome if we could just get ONE 'rumor' about the Mac Pro or Mac mini, instead of the constant barrage of iPhone 'news/guesses', when we ALL know its coming in September - like it ALWAYS IS!
Concept looks great,I am really excited about this high end iPhone model
Excellent. Glad to hear you're finally admitting your excited to accept the changes coming to the iPhone 8. Time to retire three generations of the same iPhone. Right Sunny?
Why would it?
No laser.
Iris scanners use diffused IR lights and a camera. And there are limits on the strength of the IR that's allowed.
Blogger myth. Apple themselves have never made such a claim, as far as I know. Nor should they.
The kind of fingerprint sensor used on the iPhone does work with dead fingers, for at least an hour. Longer, if you pump the finger full of saline or blood again.
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Samsung did it first, but can you actually buy a samsung with an iris scanner now?
However they did make the first exploding iris scanning phone. So in a actual product, you can buy? No...
why are you so defensive
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Rumors point to a 7s. What does this article have to do with a 7s anyways. It says this will be specific to the 8.
I'm not someone overly concerned with privacy but does it not concern anyone else how much of our personal information is in the hands of these huge corporations? Apple alone have webcams, front-facing cameras, our fingerprints, now iris images. I just hope they can be trusted.
Phone makers don't have our fingerprint or iris images.
What is stored... on the phone only, in the secure enclave... is a set of data points derived from examining those scans. (For fingerprints, it might be a vector map of where print ridges and valleys and whorls and islands and forks are, plus sweat pore locations.)
Each subsequent unlock scan is rendered into the same kind of semi-abstract representation for a match closeness test with the stored templates.
The stored calculated info can't be reversed into an exact copy of our iris or prints, although it could be used to create mathematically similar ones that could be used in place of the real thing.
Apple's touch ID security has already been defeated by a six year old child.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/190299/20161227/touch-id-is-no-match-for-a-6-year-old-youngster-beats-security-feature-orders-250-worth-of-pokémon-items.htm
Iris scanner is more secure than touch ID but combining both makes it's even stronger. That's the point of MF (multi-factor) in MFA.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/190299/20161227/touch-id-is-no-match-for-a-6-year-old-youngster-beats-security-feature-orders-250-worth-of-pokémon-items.htm
Iris scanner is more secure than touch ID but combining both makes it's even stronger. That's the point of MF (multi-factor) in MFA.
The device itself is a factor, so FP is "multifactor". This "secure enclave" some mention here , get over it.All vendors have secure areas on their devices that's just "apl marketing speech" this "secure enclave" is same as all other vendors a private area.
Not gonna happen with the buttonless iphone X, unless you develop an uncanny sense of where exactly to place your finger on the plain slab of glass without looking at it.
I doubt that Apple or anyone else could come up with all possible scenarios. There will always be a small percentage of users for whom it will not work.
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At over $1000 it will be great for doing rectal exams.
I can't decide if Apple users are really hip on Tim's whole privacy crusade or not.
The old passcode is what you want. Authorities have forced people to unlock their phones with fingerprint recognition, they can't force you to divulge a passcode, though. They will be able to do the same with retina scans.