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iPhone 8 Said to Feature Iris Scanner to Authenticate With Your Eyes

SeaFox said:
I can't decide if Apple users are really hip on Tim's whole privacy crusade or not.

The old passcode is what you want. Authorities have forced people to unlock their phones with fingerprint recognition, they can't force you to divulge a passcode, though. They will be able to do the same with retina scans.
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So what are you hiding? This privacy stuff is way overblown and just a "marketing" thing for Apl since they are not good at other stuff...like cloud, services new products etc. You can always not do retina if really worried.
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ValO said:
Samsung did it first, but can you actually buy a samsung with an iris scanner now?
However they did make the first exploding iris scanning phone. So in a actual product, you can buy? No...
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Lumia did it first bud
 
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DUIduckSAUCE said:
why are you so defensive
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Rumors point to a 7s. What does this article have to do with a 7s anyways. It says this will be specific to the 8.
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Most rumors in the last month have pointed to a 2017 iPhone 8...
 
Jyby said:
This is just a waste of technical resources.

Apple should go back to the drawing board and make buy worthy computers.
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Don't you get it, the iPhone is Apple's worthy computer. It keeps the lights on and a lot more for Apple. As for an iris scanner on the next iPhone, it will look weird to see people placing their phones next to one of their eyes to open it up.
 
SeaFox said:
I can't decide if Apple users are really hip on Tim's whole privacy crusade or not.

The old passcode is what you want. Authorities have forced people to unlock their phones with fingerprint recognition, they can't force you to divulge a passcode, though. They will be able to do the same with retina scans.
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To me that isn't an issue. I like the fingerprint for ease of use and because it is secure and works very well. I don't worry about policing needing or wanting access to my phone or anyone else's as that is their own issue.
 
BoltmanLives said:
So what are you hiding? This privacy stuff is way overblown and just a "marketing" thing for Apl since they are not good at other stuff...like cloud, services new products etc. You can always not do retina if really worried.
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Lumia did it first bud
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"You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" -Joseph Goebbels
 
MacRumors said:



Apple is widely rumored to launch a high-end iPhone with an edge-to-edge OLED display this year, which has been variously called the "iPhone 8" or "iPhone X" to commemorate the smartphone's tenth anniversary, and rumors suggest the device will an include iris scanner to authenticate with your eyes.

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iPhone 8 concept by visual designer Moe Slah​

Taiwanese website DigiTimes, citing unnamed "industry sources," claims the so-called "iPhone 8" will include an OLED display, wireless charging, and iris scanning technology, the latter of which would presumably enable iPhone users to unlock their device or use Apple Pay by authenticating with their eyes.

A person's iris, or the circular colored muscle of the eye, contains a complex and random pattern that is unique to each individual.

DigiTimes has sources within Apple's supply chain, but it has a mixed track record at reporting on Apple's unannounced product plans, so this latest report should be treated with a proverbial grain of salt. The publication previously said iPhones with iris scanning capabilities would not debut until 2018.

DigiTimes previously cited a Chinese website that said 2017 iPhones will include iris scanning capabilities, but today's report is based on its own sources. The original report claimed Taiwan-based supplier Xintec, an affiliate of Apple manufacturer TSMC, would begin mass production of iris-recognition chips this year.

KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, one of the more reliable sources of iPhone rumors, believes Apple is leaning toward facial recognition technology rather than iris recognition, based on the bio-recognition patents it has filed. Way back in March 2016, he said the "iPhone 8" will include either facial or iris recognition.

Kuo said he believes Touch ID will "ultimately be replaced by a facial recognition system" for enhanced security, in line with rumors Apple will remove the Home button; however, if the technical challenges cannot be overcome, he noted a "combination of fingerprint and facial recognition" is another possible solution.

Last month, Cowen and Company analyst Timothy Arcuri said the "iPhone 8" could include facial or gesture recognition technology powered by a laser sensor and an infrared sensor located near the front-facing camera. The feature could allow users to control their devices with simple gestures for tasks such as adjusting volume.

Lending credence to these rumors is Apple's trademark for "Iris Engine" and the acquisitions of companies such as Faceshift and PrimeSense.

iPhone would not be the first smartphone with an iris scanner, as Samsung included the technology on its now-discontinued Galaxy Note7.

DigiTimes also said the "iPhone 8" will enter production earlier than in previous years, in line with a report from earlier this week.Apple's trio of new iPhones, including more iterative "iPhone 7s" and "iPhone 7s Plus" models, are still expected to launch in September per usual. The "iPhone 8" in particular may cost upwards of $1,000 in the U.S. due to its significant redesign and features that require more expensive parts.

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[doublepost=1486799702][/doublepost]the trouble with fingerprint and iris scanners is they are not protected in the eyes of the law you are forced to give fingerprint / eye scan where, if you used a pin number you are not legally required to give this up.
so just remember this if the goverment want in your phone you are better with a pin number then any other method.
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macsrcool1234 said:
a fingerprint is much more practical unless the iris scanner is some kind of amazing new accurate technology. who wants to bring their phone right up to their eyes?
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the trouble with fingerprint and iris scanners is they are not protected in the eyes of the law you are forced to give fingerprint / eye scan where, if you used a pin number you are not legally required to give this up.
so just remember this if the goverment want in your phone you are better with a pin number then any other method.
 
I heard the new iphone 8 will end world hunger and has an app that can make you time travel to any era you want...

There are rumors, then there is ridiculous...
 
Candlelight said:
In summer, when my hayfever takes over and my eyes turn red, I won't be able to use my phone.
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That won't affect an iris scan. The iris is the colored pattern part of your eye. It is fully formed when we're one year old, and barring an eye injury or death, supposedly never changes.

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The iris contains about five times as much unique information as a fingerprint. Which is why it is more accurate than fingerprint scanning.

Fingerprint sensors can falsely match someone else's finger about one in fifty thousand people. Iris scanner false acceptance rates are more like one in over a million.

Fingerprint sensors will falsely reject a valid finger about one in a thousand times (and far far more often than that with some people). Iris scans basically never reject a valid eye.

dampfnudel said:
As for an iris scanner on the next iPhone, it will look weird to see people placing their phones next to one of their eyes to open it up.
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You just hold it in front of you, within about a foot.

Everyone already holds a phone up to look at what's on its screen.
 
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nburwell said:
I'm sure this will be a feature only available to the "premium" iPhone model. Thus justifying the $1,000+ price tag. :rolleyes:
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Well that should be good news for the people that don't want to pay extra for it or feel they need it.
 
chr1s60 said:
Most tech companies are noticing that and switching their resources. Apple putting a huge focus on computers and taking away resources from iPhone and iPad would be a bad move.
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As taking those 32 engineers away from the 100.000 other employees would ruin the org chart...?
 
kdarling said:
That won't affect an iris scan. The iris is the colored pattern part of your eye. It is fully formed when we're one year old, and barring an eye injury or death, supposedly never changes.

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The iris contains about five times as much unique information as a fingerprint. Which is why it is more accurate than fingerprint scanning.

TouchId can falsely match someone else's finger about one in fifty thousand times. Iris scanner false acceptance rates are more like one in over a million.

TouchId will falsely reject a valid finger about one in a thousand times (and far far more often than that with some people). Iris scans basically never reject a valid eye.



You just hold it in front of you, within about a foot.

Everyone already holds a phone up to look at what's on its screen.
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Can you cite a source for those statistics about Touch ID? Seems like how often the mismatch occurs, what's relevant is neither is fool proof. Imagine your the one in a million whose lost a phone due to another's iris scan bring accepted, of those stats make you feel better?
 
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borgqueenx said:
Aaaaah, this is good news. I always wondered if there would not be a better way to unlock the phone then just typing the password or passcode................
How i wish for something like a instant fingerprint reader. but oh wait....
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The Most Brilliant And Patented solution to the problem that TouchID works too fast...
....measuring your gf facial expressions while busy with your fingers (which of course Apple will never record but successively fail to delete...)
 
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MacRumors said:
he noted a "combination of fingerprint and facial recognition" is another possible solution.
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Oh yea, because THAT would be convenient! :rolleyes:

Sounds like a Jony Ive move though... 'hey, we can get rid of another button... yea, they'll just have to get used to holding their finger here on the screen and holding the phone, just so, in front of their face. We'll just say buttons are a dinosaur and it's time to move on, people. That kind of rhetoric seems to work these days... it did with the 3.5mm jack. Poor Phil, but he'll do it!'
 
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Three141 said:
Yawn, no i'm not paranoid, I'm just not short sighted.

I don't over estimate the security of my technology or under estimate how good future hackers may get.

For example my bank uses touch ID to authenticate your ID, do you really naively belief that bank once given access to device won't say 'you can use retina data to log in'.

Or let me put it in your "do you know many banks were allowing this feature via smartphone before it became available in the UK; tell me..... NONE!!!

# oblivious much
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So that thanks for ignoring what I put and talking bobbins about touch ID , to repeat, have you anything else that uses retinal scans for security? No? So tell me, how can they hack anything if you haven't given retinal data as a password. Thanks for highlighting that the tinfoil brigade live on and are strong around these parts..
 
admob71 said:
So that thanks for ignoring what I put and talking bobbins about touch ID , to repeat, have you anything else that uses retinal scans for security? No? So tell me, how can they hack anything if you haven't given retinal data as a password. Thanks for highlighting that the tinfoil brigade live on and are strong around these parts..
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Let's try again;

You: nothing you use currently will use your retina scan accept your phone.

Me: to counter your imaginery point; I explained the same could of been said for touch ID, which can now be used for banking i.e. Retina scan will be an option in future, one I wish not to use, not a big deal.

I still see they grow em with fully integrated blinkers, they say hilarious things like 'tin foil hat' thinking it helps there arguments.
 
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