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iPhone 8 Said to Feature Iris Scanner to Authenticate With Your Eyes
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What makes you believe other implementations of wireless charging, Iris Scanning, etc... were implemented wrong?
Edit - I mean we're talking years here, not months/a year. They have lacked waaayyy behind and if the apple watch charger is anything like the wireless charging they have in mind, they haven't improved on anything.
With the U.S. courts rolling over and seeing a fingerprint authentication as something that can be forced on people (as opposed to your passcode) to unlock their phones at the government's request, an iris scan would seem to be an even weaker bar to pass (since you can just see them all the time). Beyond that, it sounds cool. I believe Microsoft (?) tried this on their last Windows Phones and it didn't work very well, particularly if you had glasses making the reviewer over on Ars Technica wish it had a fingerprint reader....
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-finally-has-a-new-flagship-will-anyone-care/
Does bring back images from the movie Minority Report where machines to grab your iris image are in every store and used to give you instant personalized welcomes / advertising (and of course the govt gets that access too when they wanted to come after you). Was made before 9/11 but the movie's director Spielberg said he assumed the public would choose (or allow the choice) of the promise of "security" (via overt commercial / govt surveillance) over privacy in the future.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-finally-has-a-new-flagship-will-anyone-care/
Does bring back images from the movie Minority Report where machines to grab your iris image are in every store and used to give you instant personalized welcomes / advertising (and of course the govt gets that access too when they wanted to come after you). Was made before 9/11 but the movie's director Spielberg said he assumed the public would choose (or allow the choice) of the promise of "security" (via overt commercial / govt surveillance) over privacy in the future.
Not sure which looks more stupid -- holding an iPad up in the air to take pictures, or holding my iPhone up to my eye to unlock it?
If the forward facing camera is a high enough resolution you only have to hold it at normal distance, so it looks no different than just picking up and using your phone.
This!
For all those here who just chirp that this will be 'cool' and 'apple will nail it'. .. I ask you that simple question: What problem does iris scanning fix?!? Or is it just another uneccesary tech demo (think touchbar) that actually addresses no serious needs and is more cumbersome than the current solution?
like siri? tell me more
Actually I find Siri to be very useful when I need it to, it doesn't work all of the time. But my point was Apple are much better at making features work than other companies like Samsung, Touch ID for example is much better on an iPhone than the fingerprint readers on Andriod devices (from what people have said). Also maybe the question you asked Siri in this example is not one it can answer (not to sure).
Ever tried to use TouchID with wet hands or gloves?
Steve jobs legacy/plan all along. Why else would it be "i" anything! It all makes sense.
DigiTimes reports are often unreliable. They seem to get reliable reports from supply chain companies, but I believe Apple makes many prototypes, experiments with many technologies, and things like iris scanners may be in that category, seeing what cameras are needed, what tricks are needed to take the right kind of pics from behind the display, how to scan people with glasses and so on. So while I believe they are fiddling with such tech, and I like to see that kind of news here, unless there is a report of something being made in quantity, it's often just R&D.
Obviously the devil is in the details, and the implementation will ultimately determine how good or bad this is. But I like it conceptually. A cornerstone of the new iOS 10 UI is the increased prominence and functionality of notifications and widgets. There is a lot you can do just by interacting with these elements, before you even press the home button to get to the homescreen. Indeed, notifications and widgets are a great way to launch directly into the app you want, bypassing the homescreen entirely.
That said, a major impediment has emerged as a result of iOS 10's focus on notifications and widgets: security. When the phone is locked, these elements are far less useful than they could be. Ultimately you need to press your finger to the fingerprint sensor to actually do things or to launch into an app. This creates a conceptual bifurcation of the "lockscreen" experience: am I in the authenticated or unauthenticated state, and what information can I see and what actions can I take in the current state? It also adds an annoying physical barrier when you want to switch to the authenticated state; you need to press your finger to home button at the bottom of the device, which is actually kind of annoying when you are using a large phone.
With eye or facial recognition, you never need to put your finger near the home button. Just lift your phone up and raise-to-wake will turn the screen on and you will be authenticated by the camera. Then you can immediately interact with notifications or widgets without thinking about authentication at all. It is a huge reduction in friction for many common smartphone tasks.
That said, a major impediment has emerged as a result of iOS 10's focus on notifications and widgets: security. When the phone is locked, these elements are far less useful than they could be. Ultimately you need to press your finger to the fingerprint sensor to actually do things or to launch into an app. This creates a conceptual bifurcation of the "lockscreen" experience: am I in the authenticated or unauthenticated state, and what information can I see and what actions can I take in the current state? It also adds an annoying physical barrier when you want to switch to the authenticated state; you need to press your finger to home button at the bottom of the device, which is actually kind of annoying when you are using a large phone.
With eye or facial recognition, you never need to put your finger near the home button. Just lift your phone up and raise-to-wake will turn the screen on and you will be authenticated by the camera. Then you can immediately interact with notifications or widgets without thinking about authentication at all. It is a huge reduction in friction for many common smartphone tasks.
It doesn't have to be a huge focus. It just seems that now there is almost none. Without a Mac, I'd have much less incentive to buy an iPhone.
Please don't hate on me for this but the Iris scanner is another add-on I don't need. Along with touch ID and passcodes. Basically, I don't have anything on my phone I'm worried about folks seeing. And for folks saying they can figure out where I live? They can do that through my license plate, or just googling my name, or if they steal my car they could bring up home on my GPS (even though I have wrong info there just for that very reason). Privacy on a device that holds no actual secrets is not needed, in my case, and I don't want to pay for that if I am not going to use it.
If the SE had not had serious bluetooth issues, I would still be rocking that phone.
If the SE had not had serious bluetooth issues, I would still be rocking that phone.
I love that render but the Touch ID sensor not being centred bothers me more than it should :c
Pretty much this.
Pretty much this.
Good luck to you if anyone ever steals your phone. You'll need it.
I think most of you dismissing this tech are forgetting some people have skin conditions that mess with their fingerprints. I used TouchID forever but now my fingerprints are peeling off it is a total crapshoot to get in my phone. I am looking forward to Iris Scanning. Just because YOU never use a feature doesn't make it a waste. If that is your mindset then you should yell at apple for most of the accessibility options. 
Could you please post your Macrumors forum user ID and password? Thanks.
Do not be alarmed we will not use it for anything nefarious and there is nothing "secret" going on in this forum.
"Wireless charging" (a stupid mat is not wireless charging but don't say that here) on any old Android phone. Apparently that's the best thing since fire and the wheel around here and Apple is being late to the party.