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a fingerprint is much more practical unless the iris scanner is some kind of amazing new accurate technology. who wants to bring their phone right up to their eyes?
Agree. Lazy thumb or finger on touch id is waaaay more convenient that picking up my phone and staring at it.
 
This is always one of those rumors that I hope ends up being false. I think it sounds so hokey and gimmicky to try and pick up the phone straight in front of me and have it try to scan my face or my eyes every time I want to unlock it. Just tapping my finger on the screen is instantly faster and more reliable.

It wouldn't work like that. It would instantly unlock as soon as you picked it up - you wouldn't have to hold it in front of your face.

It would be much faster than fingerprint recognition
 
"Wireless charging" (a stupid mat is not wireless charging but don't say that here) on any old Android phone.

How is that not wireless charging?

If you go somewhere were the table is the charger and has no visible wires does that no count? If you use a car that has a bay with no visible wires does that not count?

If your criticism is that wireless charging is only truly wireless as long as no wires of any kind are involved than Apple will not solve that either because somewhere in the vicinity of the phone a mechanism will be connected to a power grid using wires.

For that matter Wi-Fi is not "wireless" internet either because the router or modem is connected to the backbone by wires ...
 
Clever, but as things stand it's almost pointless. Unlocking my phone and using Apple pay is so simple that I don't even have to look at the phone. A double click as I slide my phone out of my pocket and my phone is unlocked with Apple pay at the ready. A quick swipe over the terminal to pay and my phone is back in my pocket with a few seconds. If I had to stand there and hold the thing up to my eye... Well I simply wouldn't. Not only will it take longer, I'd also look like a right plum!
I cant really think of a scenario at the moment where Iris scanning would be easier than a fingerprint scan. BUT! if Apple remove the home button and put the scanner behind the display it will be harder to locate the exact spot to place my thumb to scan, so I'd have to glance at it. Maybe if an iris scanner is so good that a quick glance is all you need, then maybe? We shall see.
 
I think you may have quoted the wrong comment..

Sorry about that, meant it for the fellow below.

Please don't hate on me for this but the Iris scanner is another add-on I don't need. Along with touch ID and passcodes. Basically, I don't have anything on my phone I'm worried about folks seeing. And for folks saying they can figure out where I live? They can do that through my license plate, or just googling my name, or if they steal my car they could bring up home on my GPS (even though I have wrong info there just for that very reason). Privacy on a device that holds no actual secrets is not needed, in my case, and I don't want to pay for that if I am not going to use it.
If the SE had not had serious bluetooth issues, I would still be rocking that phone.

You don't do any kind of banking or financial stuff? Credit card statements?

You should be using a flip phone, grandpa!
 
Can anyone help me understand use cases where an iris scanner is more desirable than a fingerprint scan? I can think of many times when I've unlocked my phone where holding it up to my face wouldn't have been convenient.

The use cases I can think of right now are for banking apps or areas where there are more sensitive information, such as Safari storing my passwords or credit cards - I'd want to unlock that with facial recognition (if that was an available option).
 
Passwords and TouchID to unlock the iDevice is enough for me. Iris scanning is trying to solve/fix something that isnt broken and hardly necessary or wanted. It'll make for a cool tech demo, but i doubt it will make much of an impact in day-to-day use. Instead of these gimmicks, i wish they would focus resources on revamping iOS from the bottom up.

that's what I thought as well, until I had to take my gloves off to unlock my phone. That's an inconvenient in winter time. Also, I have around 5 devices, all use TouchID. I added a couple of fingers for each device and than I forgot which finger I should use for which device. Of course I have a default (middle) finger for all devices (lol), but an iris scan is better when I don't have to think about which finger or how I have to place the finger on the screen. So, I think there're a couple of usefulness for an iris scanner. Plus, nobody can hack an iris like the finger print.

a fingerprint is much more practical unless the iris scanner is some kind of amazing new accurate technology. who wants to bring their phone right up to their eyes?

See my use cases above.


When I had my note 7..it did work with glasses...do some research first ..

I'm not familiar with it. Can you elaborate on how it work?


As always Apple following others. I miss the days when Apple used to actually make something different, now it's just the same as the other companies already have for years.

Maybe you're not a long time Apple fan, but Apple rarely is the 1st in anything. They're always the later, but once they're in, they change the game and other begin to follow. E.g. Finger print has always been there but it worked like crap and nobody want to use it. Then Apple brought their TouchID and now it's everywhere and other companies are following.
 
This!

For all those here who just chirp that this will be 'cool' and 'apple will nail it'. .. I ask you that simple question: What problem does iris scanning fix?!? Or is it just another uneccesary tech demo (think touchbar) that actually addresses no serious needs and is more cumbersome than the current solution?
Wet fingers and gloves do not work with Touch ID.
 
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It wouldn't work like that. It would instantly unlock as soon as you picked it up - you wouldn't have to hold it in front of your face.

It would be much faster than fingerprint recognition

You greatly overestimate the current state of iris recognition technology....
 
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Agree. Lazy thumb or finger on touch id is waaaay more convenient that picking up my phone and staring at it.

What about the common scenario where you are picking up your phone to look at notifications (or check a widget)? Wouldn't it be nice if it automatically authenticated the moment you looked at the screen so you could just reply to a notification or launch an app immediately? Surely doing nothing is easier than even a lazy thumb touch to the home button.

Ideally, Apple would keep touchID so you could still immediately get to the homescreen without looking if that's what you want to do. But eye recognition is a big friction reducer for the common case of interacting with notifications or widgets.
 
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How is that not wireless charging?

If you go somewhere were the table is the charger and has no visible wires does that no count? If you use a car that has a bay with no visible wires does that not count?

If your criticism is that wireless charging is only truly wireless as long as no wires of any kind are involved than Apple will not solve that either because somewhere in the vicinity of the phone a mechanism will be connected to a power grid using wires.

For that matter Wi-Fi is not "wireless" internet either because the router or modem is connected to the backbone by wires ...

Difference is with Wi-Fi you don't have to keep your phone touching the router to maintain an internet connection.

In short, the issue is range.
 
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If Apple can make the scanner faster and as effective than Touch ID, then it's worth it, if not, don't bother with it.
 
Here's an idea Apple, why not place the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone? That way you can use the full front for precious screen real estate and we get to retain a very practical functionality.
 
How is that not wireless charging?

If you go somewhere were the table is the charger and has no visible wires does that no count? If you use a car that has a bay with no visible wires does that not count?

If your criticism is that wireless charging is only truly wireless as long as no wires of any kind are involved than Apple will not solve that either because somewhere in the vicinity of the phone a mechanism will be connected to a power grid using wires.

For that matter Wi-Fi is not "wireless" internet either because the router or modem is connected to the backbone by wires ...
You just proved my point.
 
that's what I thought as well, until I had to take my gloves off to unlock my phone. That's an inconvenient in winter time. Also, I have around 5 devices, all use TouchID. I added a couple of fingers for each device and than I forgot which finger I should use for which device. Of course I have a default (middle) finger for all devices (lol), but an iris scan is better when I don't have to think about which finger or how I have to place the finger on the screen. So, I think there're a couple of usefulness for an iris scanner. Plus, nobody can hack an iris like the finger print.

Why would you keep a separate finger for each idevice? Just add the same ones to each device.... The gloves thing is a valid complaint but otherwise your use cases are nonsensical.
 
While it is, in theory, more secure, scanning the iris of the eye is much slower than reading a fingerprint, especially with the latest TouchID sensors. Not for me, thank you.
 
What about the common scenario where you are picking up your phone to look at notifications (or check a widget)? Wouldn't it be nice if it automatically authenticated the moment you looked at the screen so you could just reply to a notification or launch an app immediately? Surely doing nothing is easier than even a lazy thumb touch to the home button.

Ideally, Apple would keep touchID so you could still immediately get to the homescreen without looking if that's what you want to do. But eye recognition is a big friction reducer for the common case of interacting with notifications or widgets.

What if I want to just check the time? I don't always pick up my phone needing to unlock it. And now here I have to go out of my way to unlock it every time. It just introduces a new security risk.
 
Well, it will give us a really nice front facing camera I guess. Since Apple Pay won't be available until maybe IPhone 14 in norway I see no use for the iris scanner yet. Wireless charging will be very welcome, even if it's close range.
 
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