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Difference is with Wi-Fi you don't have to keep your phone touching the router to maintain an internet connection.

In short, the issue is range.

Still not wireless. Wires are still involved whether you choose to hold the device in your hand actually put it on the table next to the the router and if you were told you would you would get better throughput placing it on a surface you would do that too.
 
What if I want to just check the time? I don't always pick up my phone needing to unlock it. And now here I have to go out of my way to unlock it every time. It just introduces a new security risk.
just don't look at the sensor that way it won't.
 
I'd like to see an either/or setup. Simply going to iris only would be less than ideal, I am usually wearing sunglasses anytime I am outside, as I imagine are lots of other people.
 
What if I want to just check the time? I don't always pick up my phone needing to unlock it. And now here I have to go out of my way to unlock it every time. It just introduces a new security risk.
Not sure I understand. You could still look at the time without unlocking. But you get the added benefit of automatic authenticiation if you look an the device directly. Isn't this purely additive?

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Oh, I see what you mean. No, the eye-scan wouldn't bypass the notification/widget screen, it would simply authenticate you the way putting your finger on the home button without pressing does now.
 
You could have just answered the very legitimate question without being childish.

Considering the amount of stupid in this thread people deserve nothing more than being treated like children.

In the time taken to post a random pointless comment people could actually use that time to look up the difference between the iris and the retina to start with, since Mac users have apparently all forgotten basic human biology.

Checking out how current iterations of the technology work and what they are used for would also be useful too.
 
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Still not wireless. Wires are still involved whether you choose to hold the device in your hand actually put it on the table next to the the router and if you were told you would you would get better throughput placing it on a surface you would do that too.

That's not what I'm debating, I don't really care if the base unit has to be plugged in.

I'm saying wireless is pretty pointless if it has no range. If you have to have the two devices touching each other then there is next to no advantage over using a cable.
 
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Why would you keep a separate finger for each idevice? Just add the same ones to each device.... The gloves thing is a valid complaint but otherwise your use cases are nonsensical.

I have around 2 - 3 fingers stored on all my devices so that no matter how I hold my device or which hand I hold them, I can still unlock them easily without changing hand. During the course of acquiring devices, I can't recall what fingers were added to which device. My use case is rare but that's just how I use devices.
 
just don't look at the sensor that way it won't.

"just don't look" at it is a terrible way to implement security.

Not sure I understand. You could still look at the time without unlocking. But you get the added benefit of automatic authenticiation if you look an the device directly. Isn't this purely additive?

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Oh, I see what you mean. No, the eye-scan wouldn't bypass the notification/widget screen, it would simply authenticate you the way putting your finger on the home button without pressing does now.

How is it going to differentiate between just wanting to look at the screen and wanting to unlock?
 
"just don't look" at it is a terrible way to implement security.



How is it going to differentiate between just wanting to look at the screen and wanting to unlock?

How exactly? You will have to look at it in a certain way for it to work anyway. It won't just unlock as you pick it up
 
Sorry about that, meant it for the fellow below.



You don't do any kind of banking or financial stuff? Credit card statements?

You should be using a flip phone, grandpa!
No banking or financial, no logins to forums, No credit card stuff, NOTHING having anything to do with financials. No emails since nothing is important enough to see during the times I am away from my desktop. I do use messaging, I like the camera always being with me, and web surfing when I am sitting in the store waiting on the wife, weather apps, Safeway app, Nest, and if go with a mesh network setup I will need a smartphone for administration. I will do minor web surfing but MUCH prefer my 24" desktop monitor for that. PS, prefer my Garmin to Apple maps and Waze.

I would use an Apple flip phone if they made one. And grandpa, at my age, is a compliment so thank you! :)
 
Passwords and TouchID to unlock the iDevice is enough for me. Iris scanning is trying to solve/fix something that isnt broken and hardly necessary or wanted. It'll make for a cool tech demo, but i doubt it will make much of an impact in day-to-day use. Instead of these gimmicks, i wish they would focus resources on revamping iOS from the bottom up.

Touch ID was widely touted as a gimmick and unwanted as well. Time will tell.
 
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"just don't look" at it is a terrible way to implement security.



How is it going to differentiate between just wanting to look at the screen and wanting to unlock?
The eyescan will never bypass the "lock" screen on its own. You will bypass the "lock" screen the same way you do now, by either pressing the home button or interacting with a notification or widget. The benefit is that you will be able to interact with notifications and widgets, or launch an app from them directly, without ever having to put your finger on the home button to authenticate.
 
This will be iPhone 8 only. People on Apple's yearly upgrade plan will only be able to upgrade to 7s/7s Plus so they will never see this feature
 
I don't see myself personally using it; it might be slightly awkward. But then, I had thought something similar regarding TouchID too. So, who knows….
 
And Henry Ford should have focused on breeding fast horses.

Computers aren't where the future is for most consumers. Most tech companies are noticing that and switching their resources. Apple putting a huge focus on computers and taking away resources from iPhone and iPad would be a bad move.

Who? HP? Dell? Lenovo? What tech company is depreciating PC manufacturing in favor of tablets? The Surface Pro is marketed as a better buy than the iPad because it has the ability to work with full Windows software, not just a tablet app. And MS recently introduced its first-ever desktop, even while it is hard at pushing the Surface Pro. Perhaps a recognition that the table can't be everything to everyone?

Also tablet sales are down -- iPad sales in a multi-quarter sales slump -- while laptop sales improved last quarter. So I think its a bit premature to suggest computers are not the future. Computers may not be upgraded at the pace they were the last couple of decades but they still fill a need to businesses and consumers.

I enjoy my iPads but they can't replace my MBP or even my iMac at this point of their evolution. Maybe next decade, we'll see. But for now traditional computers still have a very large place at the table.
 
I'm intrigued as to how iris-matching would work. Surely it'd be very challenging - given how your irises flex and contract; it's not like your fingerprint which is more constant in shape.
 
why do i feel like this is barely going to work, especially with glasses

Windows Hello works extremely well with or without glasses (even sunglasses). I don't think they specifically use iris scanning but rather facial recognition that incorporates your eyes. So, it can and does work.
 
Here's just my 2 cents:

- Its useful if your fingers are wet (rain, swimming, or whatever :D)
- Its useful if you have gloves on

If Apple gives me the option to use TouchID or IRISpass (lets call it that) when Im not able to use one of my fingers, I would be more than glad.
That plus two factor. Though security wise, these two 'factors' would be rather similar in that, eg, law enforcement can force you to provide both. Better security would probably be a combination of password and biometrics.
 
like siri? tell me more

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OMFG! This is perfect.
 
This is so unnecessary

Not necessarily true. Say you work with your hands a lot or wear gloves and the finger scanner is not available. Retina scan may just be there as alternative for you. I think that's rather nice.
 
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