iPhone 8 to Feature 5.8-Inch OLED Display With 5.15-Inch Main Screen and Virtual Buttons Below

[kmm333]

Please please don't get rid of fingerprint scanning. Slap it on the back if need be.

 

[lordofthereef]

Am I the only one who is really freaked out by this facial recognition rumour? So, all anyone has to do to unlock my iPhone is point it in my face? Or worse a photo of me? Not to go to much down this law road but for instance you get arrested and they want to search your iPhone - they just hold it in front of your face and it unlocks? THAT is scary!! Give me finger or iris backed up by passcode any day. There must be some sort of work around to this, like finger scan AND face on camera? I dunno.. This sounds weird to me..

You could obviously turn it off. However, we've already seen technology that differentiates from images and actual faces, so the latter concern is, well, less of a concern. I'd be surprised if they got rid of the fingerprint reader too.

 

[nerdAFK]

One things is for sure, at least the 2436 x 1125 resolution on the so-called 5.15 inch display is pretty weird.

Round down the numbers and ratio is 19.488 by 9, which does not make any sense.

 

[lordofthereef]

"the OLED iPhone will have measurements similar to the 4.7-inch iPhone, allowing for one-handed operation."

Absolutely, if you're Shaquille O'Neal or plan on dropping your new glass iPhone.

I'm also not sure about losing a physical home button. Other than rebooting, sometimes pressing the home button is the only way I can exit a locked-in state and then manually quit the offending app. If touching the screen becomes the only way to control the phone, a screen issue suddenly becomes a bigger problem.

Presumably the home and sleep wake buttons will still be there, right?
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Now I'm not in the market for this as I will only buy a 4" phone as my next phone... But this rumor has me thinking. Apple has always been among the best at making their devices accessible to those with physical disabilities. If they remove all physical buttons and such won't they be going backwards on accessibility? Not to mention general usability when not starting at the device (such as using Siri in car or similar in other situations)

Most accessibility options that I've seen involve virtual buttons. But the reality is, you still have your sleep wake and volume buttons, right? I can't imagine that they didn't think of accessibility features, though they may require some retraining of the muscle memory.
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Of course Apl will make a big deal out of it and make it seem grand as you train it with some mission impossible training session.

I actually laughed out loud reading this, haha!
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How would other people feel about having the home button/Touch ID incorporated into the Apple logo on the back of iPhone?

I know other manufacturers have their fingerprint sensors built into the back and Apple would be accused of copying the competition but at least it'd be reliable.

I have a lazy right eye so Iris recognition would be useless to me.

Works great on the nexus. I'd be perfectly ok with it.

 

[AJ5790]

I don't like the direction this is headed. It's like what manufacturer's are doing with football jerseys over here, they have like 3 versions of almost the same thing to hit every price point. You can pay €90 for an Adidas soccer jersey and not have the best model, no you have to pay €120 for the ones the players actually wear. Great way to alienate your customers, Apple.

Funnily enough this is exactly what the tech pundits said about removing the headphone jack. If I'm not mistaken the phone with no headphone jack just delivered Apple a record quarter.

 

[lordofthereef]

Apple said they removed the headphone jack because they needed more room for other stuff. Do we really think they are going to chop off the bottom & top of the phone now just for the heck of it?

It's not getting any smaller physically. There's just screen where there wasn't any.
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There is going to be an optional dongle sold separately for power users who need those features.

This is actually legitimately funny.

If I'm honest with myself I never use my FaceTime camera. Well almost never. I still don't want to see it go.

 

[BoltmanLives]

Funnily enough this is exactly what the tech pundits said about removing the headphone jack. If I'm not mistaken the phone with no headphone jack just delivered Apple a record quarter.

With an extra week mind you (and way less profit) actually sales on same weeks was down...but carry on. No headphone but #chipgate

Personally I hope Apl can make a great phone in 2017 without a #gate , impress me Apl. Bring it.

 

[lordofthereef]

I really can't see Apple just leaving the bottom to functions like a touch bar. It's just such a clumsy implementation. I could see the bottom sort of fading away in some apps (like video) and then reappearing with a tap, the way the menu bar in Safari currently works.

The way I imagine it is that the touch bar has some sort of different technology that you physically interact with (i.e. Feel of physical buttons) but t only exists in that bottom portion of the screen. When not needed, that section is just seamlessly integrated into the display space.

I don't know if anyone remembers the blackberry storm, but the entire screen was a button. I imagine the feel sort of like that, but that "button" is only on the touch at section of said screen.

 

[V.K.]

I feel like I'm writing this on every iPhone 8 rumour post but...

These rumours are so confusing but they're being reported by a number of sources, so there must be some truth to them (unless they're all jumping on the bandwagon).

I just can't see a scenario where one of three(?) new iPhones is truly new and the others are like a 7s. That would be a hugely confusing and fragmented product launch and product line

Yes, this seems completely implausible to me too. Whatever will happen with the new OLED iPhone Kuo is talking about, the current family models will see a significant redesign too. There is simply no way they are going to keep the same basic design for 4 years in a row. Not happening.

 

[FenixA2Z]

So 5.15" huh? Basically. Xiaomi Mi5. Look a video comparison between one of those and a 6 and 6plus and I'm liking that sweet spot of 5.15"

 

[BoltmanLives]

Yes, this seems completely implausible to me too. Whatever will happen with the new OLED iPhone Kuo is talking about, the current family models will see a significant redesign too. There is simply no way they are going to keep the same basic design for 4 years in a row. Not happening.

Actually they might, to force people to the new X, to gain saturation and expand next year, with X light (SE) and x pro..I think they will use the others with marginal changes to force the future. Hence the OLED shipment ratio. Its about ASP so this strategy plays into their hands.

 

[eoblaed]

If these assertions are true, that the fingerprint sensor is leaving, I really hope whatever replaces it is just as fast.

I love how near-instant it is. I doubt they'd replace it with something that underperformed the current tech, but I can't help but be nervous even though I'm sure that's unfounded.

 

[FenixA2Z]

In the end we are only gonna get 2 phones. A standard and a Plus. This guy has had so many early rumors come out as false. I need to see part leaks now! So happy I skipped the 7 and kept my 6S Plus!

 

[manu chao]

Just look ay the diagramm/picture in the article.

Darn, why couldn't they mention the pixel dimensions in the article? Everybody knows that people only look at the pictures and don't read the article.

BTW, if my math is correct, I get a pixel density of 521 dpi. That is pretty close to an ideal 3x (if 326 dpi corresponds to 2x, 489 dpi corresponds to 3x).
(1125/521)^2 + (2436/521)^2 = 5.15^2

 

[Delorean2006]

To be honest like most people on this forum, I will be buying this phone with minimum 128gb of storage and in matte black or if they offer navy blue that, I don't care what it has, I'll be ordering one, September is always an exciting time.

 

[ValO]

To be honest like most people on this forum, I will be buying this phone with minimum 128gb of storage and in matte black or if they offer navy blue that, I don't care what it has, I'll be ordering one, September is always an exciting time.

No matt black i think. Black glass back and front, and spaceblack stainless steel frame.

 

[code-m]

Anyone concerned with security, Apple can always implement a security feature where if you make a specific facial expression it will lockdown the phone and only another specific facial expression will unlock the phone to allow the phone to be unlocked with a normal facial scan. If this sounds complicated it is not, think of it as a temporary kill/lock switch via a specific facial expression.

Easy to train via software with three options:

1. Regular Unlock
2. Unique Facial Expression for Lockdown mode
3. Unique Facial Expression for Unlock Lockdown mode

Only you are aware of option 2 and 3, thus law enforcement will have a harder time to unlock the device.

There is always the option at present to use a photo or lift a print of someones finger and with facial expressions one could use a generator, however have a facial body heat reader and it is secure.

 

[manu chao]

I'm also not sure about losing a physical home button. Other than rebooting, sometimes pressing the home button is the only way I can exit a locked-in state and then manually quit the offending app. If touching the screen becomes the only way to control the phone, a screen issue suddenly becomes a bigger problem.

How do you think that works on the iPhone 7 which already comes without a physical button for the home button?

It works by pressing down one of the volume keys instead.

 

[Sevanw]

The S7 edge was also more expensive than the plain S7.

You missed my point. Buying an S7 Edge (with an expensive curve OLED display) outright in Canada is $900. Buying a iPhone 7 plus with a cheaper, less premium LCD cost $1075. And now, once Apple has that oh so premium OLED, they are gonna tell their flock, we want a helluvalot more money. Because the OLED version is the "higher end", "premium" version. Riiiiiight.

 

[BoltmanLives]

Anyone concerned with security, Apple can always implement a security feature where if you make a specific facial expression it will lockdown the phone and only another specific facial expression will unlock the phone to allow the phone to be unlocked with a normal facial scan. If this sounds complicated it is not, think of it as a temporary kill/lock switch via a specific facial expression.

Easy to train via software with three options:

1. Regular Unlock
2. Unique Facial Expression for Lockdown mode
3. Unique Facial Expression for Unlock Lockdown mode

Only you are aware of option 2 and 3, thus law enforcement will have a harder time to unlock the device.

There is always the option at present to use a photo or lift a print of someones finger and with facial expressions one could use a generator, however have a facial body heat reader and it is secure.

Not going to be facial, and LOL
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You missed my point. Buying an S7 Edge (with and expensive curve OLED display) outright in Canada is $900. Buying a iPhone 7 plus with a cheaper, less premium LCD cost $1075. And now, once Apple has that oh so premium OLED, they are gonna tell their flock, we want a helluvalot more money. Because the OLED version is the "higher end", "premium" version. Riiiiiight.

My 950 is OLED at $298 LOL

 

[HiRez]

This other biometric crap had better work impeccably because Touch ID is one of my favorite things about iPhones. I'm not going to be happy if it goes away and whatever they replace it with doesn't work as well.

 

[code-m]

Not going to be facial, and LOL
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Get your mind out of the gutter
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This other biometric crap had better work impeccably because Touch ID is one of my favorite things about iPhones. I'm not going to be happy if it goes away and whatever they replace it with doesn't work as well.

TouchID version 1 was not perfect, though it helped the company Apple acquired had a very good product to begin with.

 

[djlythium]

How would other people feel about having the home button/Touch ID incorporated into the Apple logo on the back of iPhone?

I know other manufacturers have their fingerprint sensors built into the back and Apple would be accused of copying the competition but at least it'd be reliable.

I have a lazy right eye so Iris recognition would be useless to me.

I see what you're getting at, but what about people with cases? Not everyone likes their device fully naked.

 

[Delorean2006]

No matt black i think. Black glass back and front, and spaceblack stainless steel frame.

Oh that's right, my mistake, I totally forgot about the almost definite switch to glass, which is much welcomed

 

[code-m]

I see what you're getting at, but what about people with cases? Not everyone likes their device fully naked.

Many cases have a cutout for the Apple logo.