Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
They realy should have called the present iPhone 6SE instead of 7. Things will become confusing soon...

Is it really that confusing? Competitors can have like 10+ models at any given time.
Nah, the current iPhone 7 should have been called the 6SS (or 6S2 or whatever...) and this *really* new one the 7....

Don't be silly, it removed the headphone jack, how can you add an "s" to it :D.
 
I hate Johnny Ive's direction more every year. Humans enjoy and can use buttons easily. I don't need my device to be an inscrutable obelisk, I need it to work without having to look at it every time. Buttons allow instant feedback even in the dark. Ergonomic design does not mean reduction of buttons.
 
I would love wireless charging. I have had it for several years on my Android phones. It is is very convenient to set your phone down and pick it up a little later knowing is fully charged.

I am less sure about a glass only phone. I prefer something more rugged. Perhaps they can try carbon fiber or some other material.
[doublepost=1479909732][/doublepost]
will it work with a case on?

My android phones and tablets can be charged with their cases on.
 
Nice try, not talking about the same thing here. The wireless charging you refer to is not only a gimmick, it's a setback.
sorry but it seems like anything the iphone doesn't have is a gimmick...until the iphone has it a few years later then...wow what innovation.....
Kinda like waterproofing.....i love my 7+ because it finally has a great camera I can take hiking without worry it will get wet (always around streams and lakes) or snowed on. No more having to wrap it in a plastic bag or just leave it at home for one of my other phones.
 
I wish people would stop fantasizing about those edge to edge screen iPhone mockups. Its not going to happen and it shouldn't. Even the Android devices out noe that go close to edge to edge are difficult to pick up, without activating icons along the aides. It just doesn't work.
 
sorry but it seems like anything the iphone doesn't have is a gimmick...until the iphone has it a few years later then...wow what innovation.....
Kinda like waterproofing.....i love my 7+ because it finally has a great camera I can take hiking without worry it will get wet (always around streams and lakes) or snowed on. No more having to wrap it in a plastic bag or just leave it at home for one of my other phones.

I don't think it's a case of "if Apple doesn't have it, it's a gimmick", but the fact that wireless charging that requires a wire and a charging pad isn't exactly wireless. Even if everywhere you go, there are charging pads, the current process requiring you set down your phone and effectively not be able to use it, is just not a convenient process.

If Apple simply takes the same solution to wireless charging, I'll say the exact opposite - that they're going the wrong direction.
 
Why curved?!?! I hope this isn't true. Been tried in phones before, and it's kind of an annoying "feature" with no real advantage that didn't catch on for good reason.
It is required to get the bezel down to close to zero. And you know full well that getting rid of the bezel is the number one priority here in these forums.
[doublepost=1479911656][/doublepost]
Maybe Apple could ask everyone else how they can charge wirelessly without a glass case.
Hell, even the Palm Pre announced in 2010 had wireless charging, yet it wasn't doomed to destruction following a slip from the hand..
You don't glass but you do need to get rid of metal. So glass or plastic it is.
[doublepost=1479911801][/doublepost]
WTF?

When did I suggest they should be using a metal alloy?
You didn't. But you should have because you know full well that a plastic iPhone would be paned widely.
 
MacRumors 2017

"Ha! Look at Samsung! Copying Apple again!"

maxresdefault.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: jerryk and jamezr
Sure they have 10x as many models and only a tenth of Apple's profits. This looks like some sort of correlation.

Something tells me their profitability wasn't down to customers getting confused by model numbers. More likely the correlation of more models is down to poor sales.
 
The point of wireless charging is completely lost on me. Is it that difficult to plug this thing in?? Lightning even made it so it doesn't matter which way the plug goes. Are we so incompetent or lazy that a charging mat (which has to be plugged in) is superior to plugging in a phone once a day??

You want the security of a physical plug. In a vehicle, unless you drive on level glass and never turn, you'd be forced to buy a holder. Overnight suppose you or a pet bumped your phone off the charging mat.

And how do you use it while charging? Gotta move both the charging surface and the phone. And to make a call while charging?? Lol.

Can we please leave inductive charging for our toothbrushes and stop the total war on plugs? Some plugs are just fine, and in fact better. This headlong, because-we-can, because-it-seems-cool charge into wireless land is absurd.

And while I'm ranting, please leave me a bezel. Please? Look at that photo again. See the way they have to hold that thing to see the whole screen? No thanks. Especially if it's all glass, no matter how many gorillas it's made out of.
Wired charging would still exist...
 
  • Like
Reactions: jerryk
I was going to get a 7, then i helped a friend set up her 7 and i was completely not impressed. Compared to my iPhone 6 Plus i felt no real improvement in performance that was noticeable for $900. Going to wait another year for the 8.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xiogel
Something tells me their profitability wasn't down to customers getting confused by model numbers. More likely the correlation of more models is down to poor sales.
Simplicity of the model line, easy recognition of a phone as an iPhone due to this, resale value all contributed to Apple's success in terms of sales at high prices. Not offering cheap entry-level phones does help the brand value. Same applies on the Mac line-up, fewer models and significantly higher average prices do go hand-in-hand.
 
I don't think it's a case of "if Apple doesn't have it, it's a gimmick", but the fact that wireless charging that requires a wire and a charging pad isn't exactly wireless. Even if everywhere you go, there are charging pads, the current process requiring you set down your phone and effectively not be able to use it, is just not a convenient process.

If Apple simply takes the same solution to wireless charging, I'll say the exact opposite - that they're going the wrong direction.
If Apple can provide a solution that will wirelessly charge my iphone from anywhere in my house....I am all for it of course. Have you used wireless charging in it's current form? It is pretty nice and convenient tbh.
 
Smart phones in general have got a little stale imo. I love my iPhone but nothing is blowing me away at the moment.
What exactly are you expecting? The devices have matured. They are essentially a touch screen with a camera. It's all about the software now, with exception to the internals.
 
Something tells me their profitability wasn't down to customers getting confused by model numbers. More likely the correlation of more models is down to poor sales.

It's often less about sales, and more about profit per unit.
 
However, given how thick phones with wireless charging are nowadays and the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 debacle, Apple might NOT adopt wireless charging. It'll be interesting to see if Apple keeps the Lightning port or seriously consider adopting USB Type C, since 1) the Type C connector is only slight bigger than the Lightning connector, 2) it allows for much higher data transfer rates to and from a laptop/desktop computer and 3) it meets the European Union requirement that all phones must use USB connectors.
Lightning can offer USB3 speeds (so far only implemented on the 12.9" iPad Pro). And the EU rule originally specified micro-USB as the standard. And it wasn't a hard rule, it was an industry agreement that staved off a legally binding rule. Moreover, 'adaptors' were considered as complying with this 'rule'. This all started when phones came with a charging block with a non-detachable cable (and differing connectors at the cable end). Shipping a charger that allowed using it on a different phone with the help of a separate cable (eg, any charger with a USB-A port on the charging block) was considered as complying.

That said, USB-C would be helpful in that a USB-C to USB-C would be all you might ever need at some point in the future (unless you needed speeds even higher than 10 Gbit/s for which you then needed an active, aka TB3, cable). Not only for charging or synching to a computer but also to connect all kinds of peripherals to an iOS device (currently, you still need a Lightning to USB(-A) adaptor).
 
Really! A charging station, I thought Samsung already did that, you called that innovation? Poor Apple you're taking things that they already been done and giving then a new style. Let me tell you something, i am not a fan of Samsung ecosystem but if he wasn't for the failure of the note 7. Apple would be in big trouble selling the iPhone 7. By next year if you do not blow everyone away with something amazing, Apple is done!
 
I like glass but glass really doesn't like the floor.

Hopefully apple has a new material in the works that is not glass, it'd be super nice to have a phone that doesn't have anodised scratch prone aluminium or glass that shatters into shards. I do remember when phones were made from plastic and had no issues apart from feeling cheap.

A polymer or something new that can be polished into the glass edge for zero join lines would be super cool and easy to make water resistant. In the end a case will be slapped on all designs i personally hated the iPhone 4 all glass design and want to see that avoided in the next gen.
 
Wow, (I presume) summer 2017 will come around and still no wireless charging from the iPhone. I hope it's something really amazing to make it worth the wait, like 10 feet away charging or something. I'm pretty sure Apple will amaze us.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.