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iPhone ad rapped as 'misleading'
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Like I said, the general public should stop being idiots.
If I'm going to buy a $200/300 phone with a $2000+ contract I would do research. This reminds me of a thread where some newb went and bought a maxed blackbook thinking it had a gaming graphics card in it because it "cost so much money".
Like I said... People shouldn't be idiots
Don
Great.. go and use your PC you Windows little prat.. this is a mac forum and only limited for intelligent people.
Hey by the way.. Microsoft released a NEW amazing OS called Vista.. use it man, its so 'amazing'. There are lot of forums for this 'great' new release.. you'll be popular there
I agree with you totally - people shouldnt be idiots, but unfortunately, some people are, and some people buy stuff without properly researching what they are getting.
This isnt helped by apple falsely claiming that the iPhone can do stuff it cant... Leading to the dismay of said "idiots", and people who arent as tech minded as you or I...
It's...
It's also not twice as fast and half the cost of the earlier phone (here in America).
Who would think that a corporation would shamelessly lie to market their product. Who would have thought that Apple would shamelessly lie to market their product.
I wonder if AT&T put them up to it here state side...
It's also not twice as fast and half the cost of the earlier phone (here in America).
Who would think that a corporation would shamelessly lie to market their product. Who would have thought that Apple would shamelessly lie to market their product.
I wonder if AT&T put them up to it here state side...
You should stop being a total idiot and stop insulting people who are not very interrested in making researches on the internet or who do not have time.
You go to product page check the features and believe what the company gives you as an information. If it is misleading there should be a government body which will protect the consumers.
Please be aware that you are the CONSUMERS dont let yourself consumed with this brand loyalty ********.
Have min standart of human intelligence if not at least keep silence.
When did Flash become a web standard? Sure lots of sites use it but it's a 3rd party plug-in and not a requirement to use the internet Personally I hate Flash on the Mac because its so slow and buggy, I would hate to see it on the iPhone/iPod touch as it will no doubt be slow and buggy on them too.
Personally I hate Flash on the Mac because its so slow and buggy, I would hate to see it on the iPhone/iPod touch as it will no doubt be slow and buggy on them too.Yeah, everyone I know has heard of the iphone. But I betcha none of them know that it doesn't support the 'interactive' side of the web.
Now if apple claims "all the parts of the internet are on the iPhone", that would certainly mislead my mates.
Apple's response to this is somewhat disappointing and patronizing, suggesting that Flash and Java are obscure technologies. Flash especially is very much a part of the internet (although I have it disabled by default).
When did Flash become a web standard? Sure lots of sites use it but it's a 3rd party plug-in and not a requirement to use the internet
then ur mac sucks, it works just fine. what pisses me off even more then not having flash on the iphone is that some pages only display their "mobile pages" and theres no way to change it to the regular web page
Wow, I'm really surprised at the number of people who are siding with Apple on this issue. I personally have to agree with the ASA.
You can call it nit-picky if you want, but when Apple says "all parts of the internet" are on the iPhone, and then you take out Java and Flash, they're being misleading, period.
In almost all users' opinions, Flash and Java are in fact "parts of the internet." I don't see why you wouldn't consider them such. So when Apple says they're on the iPhone, and then they aren't, they do indeed have some explaining to do.
You can call it nit-picky if you want, but when Apple says "all parts of the internet" are on the iPhone, and then you take out Java and Flash, they're being misleading, period.
In almost all users' opinions, Flash and Java are in fact "parts of the internet." I don't see why you wouldn't consider them such. So when Apple says they're on the iPhone, and then they aren't, they do indeed have some explaining to do.
I don't think much of the ASA. I fired off a complaint about the tacky old PC World's slogan - "Internet prices to take home today".
To me this implies the prices in the store were cheap because they were the same price as the good on their website.
In fact, prices in the store were about 10% higher.
It turns out they meant you could order goods online, wait 4 hours and then collect from the store.
It sure sounded like they were saying in store prices were the same as the internet ones to me, but the ASA disagreed.
To me this implies the prices in the store were cheap because they were the same price as the good on their website.
In fact, prices in the store were about 10% higher.
It turns out they meant you could order goods online, wait 4 hours and then collect from the store.
It sure sounded like they were saying in store prices were the same as the internet ones to me, but the ASA disagreed.
Regardless of whether or not you like Flash. The reality is:
Many web sites use Flash. If you don't have flash installed you don't see the content.
Is Apple's Ad misleading? Probably. You cannot see content, and if you can't "see the entire web" contents.
Flash is a 'defacto' standard, since its use is so widespread.
Many web sites use Flash. If you don't have flash installed you don't see the content.
Is Apple's Ad misleading? Probably. You cannot see content, and if you can't "see the entire web" contents.
Flash is a 'defacto' standard, since its use is so widespread.
Agreed. Flash and/or Java are on a significant number of sites on the internet. The fact that iPhone safari is still incredibly usable without these features speaks well of it - but that isn't how Apple is marketing it, and they should be less misleading.
Or they should simply get adobe to fix flash so they can use it. Java? Who knows - it's falling more and more out of favor with me anyway. Still, it is used by millions of sites out there, it would be nice if the iPhone supported it.
Maybe with the SDK it will someday.
But regardless, it isn't about whether or not people should "do their research" it is all about how Apple is marketing their product. And they are implying things that simply are not true.
Yeah, and good luck with that... since they can't even produce a stable Flash plug-in for platforms they've been supporting for over 10 years, I'm sure this one will be Adobe's worst effort yet. As if Safari on the iPhone didn't crash often enough on its own, I mean... there are two ways to go to the Home Screen, one is to press the Home button and the other is to start Safari and wait for it to crash within 60 seconds. To have Adobe's patented crash factory plug-in on top of that can only end in disaster.
Now, I like Flash as a concept -- I have to, seeing as I make most of my living on Flash content -- but the player itself is an inneficient piece of ****, regardless of platform. Once called upon it will cause the computer to work up a sweat like it was handling some massively complex 3D game, just to move some puny 2D graphics around. And it's just depressing to see that a Flash animation that runs reasonably smoothly on a low-end PC is choppy beyond belief on a high-end Mac. On the iPhone, Flash would probably suck battery life like nothing else. And the problem is that once there is a Flash player, you won't get just the good Flash content that you're looking for, you'll get all the goddamn banners too, which means that visiting your average online newspaper will draw 10 times more power than if you were only getting GIF banners.
Don't mean to sound negative, but... oh wait, I do.
Flash has been a defacto web standard ever since the likes of Microsoft started to ship their web browsers with the Flash plugin already included. This happened 9-10 years ago, and that was before Flash was capable of video playback. Today it's the dominant video platform on the web, used by Youtube as well as 90% of the TV channels that offer online video. Apple got around part of that problem by putting a designated Youtube player on the iPhone, but there's a helluvalot more than Youtube out there...When did Flash become a web standard? Sure lots of sites use it but it's a 3rd party plug-in and not a requirement to use the internet
What a bunch of twaddle to ban this add. Some silly PC user no doubt in a fuss over the coolest gadget on the planet. Nokia have been making phones for over a decade. Apple make one phone and it rocks the planet! Where is the innovation of Nokia. (and yes I own a Nokia)
My, my my - every ad that ever exists is misleading in one way.
Take hair shampoo for example if you just use this brand you will look like million dollars.
If you drive this car you will get that girl.
If you use this toothpast you will shine like the morning sun.
The list could go on.
As a POM myself I think it really does stand for "Poor Old Me!" sometimes!
Haha - come on Britain - lighten up. There are more important adds to ban than this one!
My, my my - every ad that ever exists is misleading in one way.
Take hair shampoo for example if you just use this brand you will look like million dollars.
If you drive this car you will get that girl.
If you use this toothpast you will shine like the morning sun.
The list could go on.
As a POM myself I think it really does stand for "Poor Old Me!" sometimes!
Haha - come on Britain - lighten up. There are more important adds to ban than this one!
I agree apple is misleading I am a huge mac fan everything i have is mac had an iphone for over a yr both original and 3g a almost 100% maxed out mac pro apple tvs alot of stuff in my house is centered around the mac I also work for an all Mac IT company yet all apples current ads are some what misleading. their marking IS trying to sell something and they do a good job of it. yet flash is a huge part of the internet. and has been for along time. and will continue to be so.
Good for whoever had the ad pulled. It is incorrect and misleading. Period.
The iPhone either will access all of the internet or it won't. The fact is, it won't. Shame, shame Apple.
Rich
The iPhone either will access all of the internet or it won't. The fact is, it won't. Shame, shame Apple.
Rich
LOL right. Apple has become the leading example of false advertisement and there are still people who think like this. ^
Sad and pathetic
Everyone here realizes that Java is not the same thing as JavaScript, right?
The iPhone supports JavaScript. Java, which is TOTALLY different as the two are similar in name only, is NOT as widely used as many people posting here make it seem. Java is developed and controlled by Sun.
Flash is not an open standard, despite it's ubiquitousness, and Apple would have to rely on Adobe for their iPhone Flash client. That's something they simply won't do.
Misleading ad? Maybe. But everyone just needs to calm down. The iPhone is awesome regardless.
The iPhone supports JavaScript. Java, which is TOTALLY different as the two are similar in name only, is NOT as widely used as many people posting here make it seem. Java is developed and controlled by Sun.
Flash is not an open standard, despite it's ubiquitousness, and Apple would have to rely on Adobe for their iPhone Flash client. That's something they simply won't do.
Misleading ad? Maybe. But everyone just needs to calm down. The iPhone is awesome regardless.
Too far, once again...
What is the whole internet? How do you define it? If you cant define it how can you claim it can/can't view everything?
Safari on my Mac can't view flash or silverlight, does that mean i cant view the whole internet or does that mean my iPhone can view the whole internet because its the same as my desktop?
The American Oxford Dictionary defines the internet as: an international computer network providing e-mail and information from computers in educational institutions, government agencies, and industry, accessible to the general public via modem links. So by this definition my iPhone can view the whole internet. The phone can send e-mail, can view information from, government agencies, educational institutions, and industry, and i am of the general public, so the iPhone ad is therefor not misleading. Consumers are just stupid and this is public liability gone too far, once again.
What is the whole internet? How do you define it? If you cant define it how can you claim it can/can't view everything?
Safari on my Mac can't view flash or silverlight, does that mean i cant view the whole internet or does that mean my iPhone can view the whole internet because its the same as my desktop?
The American Oxford Dictionary defines the internet as: an international computer network providing e-mail and information from computers in educational institutions, government agencies, and industry, accessible to the general public via modem links. So by this definition my iPhone can view the whole internet. The phone can send e-mail, can view information from, government agencies, educational institutions, and industry, and i am of the general public, so the iPhone ad is therefor not misleading. Consumers are just stupid and this is public liability gone too far, once again.
Does windows IE have all parts of internet
This is realy bad i dont like this at all
There are some standart on the internet like html css xhtml xml svg ecma script....
Flash is not standart part of internet at all.
It could included on website like object and it should have alternative contetnt. like desciption or image.(I think it is required, by standart)
I strongly disagrea with u.k. what else should be internet silverlight or some stream wmw.
come on there is w3c witch made standart apple and safari is really standart friendly.(on the web)
I should also made some plugin and than bitching that someone does not have all part of the internet.
I hope that soon will be some standart for audio and video
This is realy bad i dont like this at all
There are some standart on the internet like html css xhtml xml svg ecma script....
Flash is not standart part of internet at all.
It could included on website like object and it should have alternative contetnt. like desciption or image.(I think it is required, by standart)
I strongly disagrea with u.k. what else should be internet silverlight or some stream wmw.
come on there is w3c witch made standart apple and safari is really standart friendly.(on the web)
I should also made some plugin and than bitching that someone does not have all part of the internet.
I hope that soon will be some standart for audio and video
That is true. It also makes absolutely 100% no difference.
False advertising is what they do, and people are only just starting to care.